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    Plan to monitor all internet use. (Britain)

    Big Brother is watching you! In Britain
    Plan to monitor all internet use.

    This ludicrous. Even emails will not be private before long. No wonder they want all homes to have the Internet as well.
    What do you think?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8020039.stm
    Some of it here.

    Communications firms are being asked to record all internet contacts between people as part of a modernisation in UK police surveillance tactics.

    The home secretary scrapped plans for a database but wants details to be held and organised for security services.

    The new system would track all e-mails, phone calls and internet use, including visits to social network sites.

    Ministers say police need new tools to fight crime but opposition MPs and campaigners have raised privacy fears.

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    It's a worrying trend and I'm against the average person's rights being infringed in this manner. Upon the face of it this headline is a shocker, but when one delves a little closer I'm not sure it's as invasive as it initially seems.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's asking ISP's to keep logs of which sites have been visited. Not unlike the logs of which phone numbers you've called which are kept at the moment. I don't think that's too bad necessarily but...


    Ms Smith said that while the new system could record a visit to a social network, it would not record personal and private information such as photos or messages posted to a page.
    .... I'm not entirely sure what that would achieve anyway.
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    Britain Government Buildings monitoring the internet usage are about to have their bandwidth get crushed by petabytes of pornography.

    Great use of taxpayer money.

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    It seems at the moment not too invasive, It is odd though on many counts.
    The Government want all homes to have Internet access,all for that for helping children who do not have it but who is paying for it?. I still believe it will become much more invasive than they are saying perhaps.
    Maybe jumping in too fast here. I found it quite an intersting read.

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    All of this, whilst google is also monitering us

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    Claiming to protect liberty by removing it is just about the most stupid thing i've come across.
    The British government should truly be ashamed of themselves for the measures they've been and are going to implement.

    Local councils already have the right to 'monitor' you and have been warned against it's use for petty things. I still can't get over the detective work used to prosecute people for having thier bins too full or out too early.
    Really makes you want to punch someone very hard.
    Also with the I.D. card system they're trying to implement a contract was signed promising the company responcible a large sum of money if the plan got pulled (so if the conservatives get in for the next election and cancel it like they promised they will still have to pay for it)

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    So pretty much, as always, Deus Ex proves to be an excellent prediction of the future.
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    I wonder how much processing effort/manpower it would take if the Govt. really wanted to read every email from Joe Bloggs to John Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rg_001100 View Post
    I wonder how much processing effort/manpower it would take if the Govt. really wanted to read every email from Joe Bloggs to John Smith.
    The manpower is the issue. Never enough analysts. Data mining programs can look for patterns, but even then the field isn't narrowed enough to do any good in providing timely warning based on email traffic. You can catch traffic related to, say, a terrorist attack after the fact, but probably not in time to prevent it. For that you need good human intelligence.

    Ms Smith said that while the new system could record a visit to a social network, it would not record personal and private information such as photos or messages posted to a page.

    .... I'm not entirely sure what that would achieve anyway.
    What that achieves is putting together a pattern of use and site visits. Much as commercial internet concerns track your web usage to determine what sort of things you're likely to buy, this allows police agencies to put together a picture of your interests, and who you might interact with at the sites you visit. Let us say you have persons X, Y, and Z. There is apparently no physical contact between them that you know of. However, if they all visit the same series of Tomb Raider fan sites, you can put together a picture of at least that portion of their interests. Now expand that concept to other interests and you can see why such information might be useful.

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