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    Exclamation Kain Has The Blood Reaver?????

    I'm somewhat dissapointed it's not the soul reaver. It means raziel's soul WASN'T twinned inside the blade as makes so much sense from SR2s ending and means we all know at least one ending is going to involve kain's sword and raziels chest....unless they somehow manage to transfer the wraith blade into the blood reaver.


    basically:

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    Besides, I've already mentioned my take on the matter in a few different threads. That's just how it goes, I suppose.

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    Fneh,
    The game is not even out yet and you are disappointed? Give us a chance here.
    The LOK: Defiance team are the music makers and the weavers of dreams. You'll really have to play the game to see the magic.
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    I don't think you would have WB makes SR makes WB makes SR makes WB makes SR makes WB makes SR... That'd be a cycle with no beginning or end. I think it would have to be Raz makes SR, SR breaks and becomes WB then Raz let's go of it when he's on his way in to make it in the first place. Of course if they do what I suggested in another thread, the Reaver will possess pre-SR1 Kain and be the one who got him inside the chronoplast where Kain found out that he had to dunk Raz in the abyss in the first place and then he goes travelling through time to fighting his enemies in another sequel. Or maybe Kains plan to just give the reaver a portion of Raziel's soul will work the second time.

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    The LOK: Defiance team are the music makers and the weavers of dreams.
    That's the best quote (paraphrase?) from Charlie and the Chocolate factory =).

    Chris is right. The team that is working on this game are the best of the best. It's too bad everybody can't visit the Crystal Dynamics offices, because you'd see for yourselves. They won't disappoint us.

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    *cough*raziel = a weakling whiner *cough*


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    sorry chris but I just saw it that the reaver was forged for the last 18 months. It makes more sense for the following reasons:


    1. It means I don't know the 2 endings to defiance before I've played it.

    2. it means I was right and Umah was wrong (worth starting the game again for surely! )

    3. It explains why it was only that brief second when kain could have pulled out the reaver instead of waiting until
    my soul was both inside and outside the reaver blade
    when he could have technically yanked the thing out at any time UP TO when he did do.

    Or is there something we don't know yet?

    I really am hoping I'm wrong cos I know SR2 was NOTHING I expected (but I didn't really think about it) it would be


    maybe someone here can explain why kain had to wait to pull the reaver out at that precise moment for me?

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    SR2 wasnt what I expected eitehr....but that is just in combat.

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    I thought the multiple endings thing was just a rumour at this point?

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    well yeah it is. I didn't mean to get that old rumour started again but it's making more and more sense now that I was wrong about the soul reaver being forged...

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    Gah!

    Leave you guys for 1 month and dont get anythign anymore

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    Originally posted by N0V4
    Gah!

    Leave you guys for 1 month and dont get anythign anymore


    .......what?

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    I think we'll just have to wait and see. I'm 99.99999% sure that no one would have guessed the story of SR2 up until it was released, and I'm sure it will be similar with Defiance. I mean, I didn't even know where SR2 was going until the last cinematic.

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    yeah I know what you mean about SR2. I knew pretty early on that raziel would kill himself. It just fit, but the thing with the reaver? I was totally shocked. Not quite as shocked as a certain scene at the end of final fantasy 7 (disc 1) mind

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    Red Face (Embarrassed) Re: Kain Has The Blood Reaver?????

    Originally posted by fneh 5/4/2003 10:52:22 AM at GFAQ's

    al I can say about that is "I TOLD YOU SO EIDOS FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!" no wwho's stupid!? NYA!!!

    I'm done now...................


    Would you like to retract this statement now?

    Edit: http://s1.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/ge...7793262&page=3

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    Thumbs Up LOL@warp!

    **chuckles**

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    I hate you all.....

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    I think I worked something out:

    kain waited until raziel's soul was
    "both instide and outside the reaver blade"
    so kain could still forge the reaver with a portion of raziel's soul rather than sacrificing him.

    When raziel saw the reaver still bound to his arm many assumed that what raziel said was true. Raziel didn't know kain was trying to forge the reaver AND save raziel. If kain had been sucessful in forging the soul reaver (while saving raziel) then it would still be bound to lil raziel's arm in the same way.

    understand? (this is where it gets confusing until we get defiance)

    Now on all screens for defiance the reaver looks different (no arm band). this could either be because the game isn't complete yet or because kain managed to trap most of raziel in the blade (as opposed to all of him) so the reaver attached to his arm is only a % of raziel's soul now. I'm sure that the entire reaver being on raziels arm at the end of the game was just because it wasn't practical to remove the arm band for 5 seconds (and we would all notice it) when they can just show a cut scene at the start of SR3 to explain it all.

    If I'm right this would explain how there is no arm band, how raziel can survive his torment within the blade and why the reaver won't drain raziel's life when it's 'arroused'

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    It was half way into the blade not split in two like Kain thought it would be. So when he pulled it out, the half inside the blade came back out of it. Well that's at least my explanation.

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    Originally posted by fneh
    I hate you all.....
    Well, we don't really like you either. But what do we know, we are stupid.

    I agreee with Vampmaster, again.

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    Originally posted by blincoln
    I think we'll just have to wait and see. I'm 99.99999% sure that no one would have guessed the story of SR2 up until it was released, and I'm sure it will be similar with Defiance. I mean, I didn't even know where SR2 was going until the last cinematic.

    There was a guy called time000, some of the oldest might remember him, that wrote a fanfiction and he predicted EXACTLY what the game was about without leaving anything out.


    So there is your 0.00001%

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    Originally posted by Vampmaster
    It was half way into the blade not split in two like Kain thought it would be. So when he pulled it out, the half inside the bade came back out of it. Well that's at least my explanation.
    It`s a very good idea but i think that it was enough to convert it into the soul reaver. The blood reaver wouldn`t be as strong as the soul reaver so for gaming porpuse it is better the soul reaver.

    But if it is not, I`m fine with it, CD knows how to do things.

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    Hah!
    But does he know Kain wears pink underwear?

    So there!

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    Originally posted by Glucolisis
    It`s a very good idea but i think that it was enough to convert it into the soul reaver. The blood reaver wouldn`t be as strong as the soul reaver so for gaming porpuse it is better the soul reaver.

    But if it is not, I`m fine with it, CD knows how to do things.
    Que? Chris said it was the BR. Also, for gaming purposes its probably better if the weapon isnt "all mighty" so the Blood Reaver is a better choice by your own logic.

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    Making Raz invincable seems pretty all mighty to me.

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