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    Pilgrims would explain how they acquire multiple...

    Pilgrims would explain how they acquire multiple elemental powers by travelling from shrine to shrine.

    Pilgrims, Elementalists, Elementals and Druids all work as a title for them to refer to...
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    Druid could definitely work. Our idea doesn't...

    Druid could definitely work. Our idea doesn't bear much relation to the classical idea of a druid, but the word describes a number of ideas and a belief system based on elements and spirituality...
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    Yes. Definitely forearms. I was thinking that the...

    Yes. Definitely forearms. I was thinking that the effects would be reduced when the magic has been fully discharged and a reload is necessary.



    Tough one. If it's the latter then they could be...
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    Exactly, they function in units if you like,...

    Exactly, they function in units if you like, maintaining their power by safeguarding it.



    I see what you mean. I guess the balance would have to be tested in gameplay.



    I think I might...
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    Mega-Post! It's not really others doing...

    Mega-Post!



    It's not really others doing the tunnels. It would just be largely the non-fighting members of their organisation. I'm not saying the tunnels wouldn't link areas, but some of those...
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    That's a good idea. It's actually what the...

    That's a good idea. It's actually what the Sarafan sorcerers used in Defiance as well.



    Mmm... I'll write up a new set of descriptions based on what you put down. I'll put it in an edit......
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    Either works pretty well, as long as the player...

    Either works pretty well, as long as the player can understand that the magic is eldritch and not related to Raziel's type. Your idea works better with dynamic of the attack type we're talking about...
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    We'll see. The developers may have other ideas. ...

    We'll see. The developers may have other ideas.

    I agree. Six classes would suffice and the trouble with introducing non-vampire classes on their side is that they don't have the same weaknesses to...
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    Okay doke. Much less powerful though. It should...

    Okay doke. Much less powerful though. It should be a strategic toppling push, not enough to send them flying.



    You misunderstand. I'm suggesting your system of pulsed and charged attack (left...
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    Ah, didn't know this. However, the principal is...

    Ah, didn't know this. However, the principal is still sound canonically and this might be worse bearing in mind.



    You're right... something different is needed for the earth glyph power, but...
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    I don't think this quite a fair description....

    I don't think this quite a fair description. Raziel's wings were part of his dark gift; his evolution, not devolution. Probably better to say that all of the vampires in Kain's empire both evolved...
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    Fairly similar to what I thought, but that...

    Fairly similar to what I thought, but that clarifies a few things. Many thanks.

    Okay, taking a little from your ideas and my old ones:

    The glyph elements were also harmful to humans, so this...
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    I mentioned a few things a week or so back, but...

    I mentioned a few things a week or so back, but I'm not 100% sure they fit the game system anyway. Could you do me a favour and be my eyes? I do not have access to the game, mostly because I do not...
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    Sorry for the slow response. I've had to...

    Sorry for the slow response. I've had to decommission my old computer thanks to the ending of XP support. Not to mention everything else... make of that whatever dark and sinister thing you will.

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    That's exactly the bit I had in mind. I would...

    That's exactly the bit I had in mind. I would sample and mix it for you, but I’m a little busy with other things. Painting, sanding and drain cleaning are less interesting, but probably more...
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    I don’t think the developers have said. The...

    I don’t think the developers have said. The answer is probably when they feel it’s ready. The deceivers took slightly over a month after being announced, but this is probably not a reliable...
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    Nah! Look! RainaAudron and Lord_Aevum seem to...

    Nah! Look! RainaAudron and Lord_Aevum seem to think it’s worth reading and responding to. If, however, there’s anything you prefer by PM, go ahead.



    Lord_Aevum already has a pretty good point...
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    Good questions… I didn’t explain some of it very...

    Good questions… I didn’t explain some of it very well.

    I think Malek’s Bastion is a good location to choose as well, but there’re a problems. Malek was not present in the ancients’ depictions of...
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    This just goes back to what we discussed before...

    This just goes back to what we discussed before though.

    Immortality and the ability to repair your own body by consuming the blood of your enemies are not normally considered to be strategically...
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    The Turelim’s hulk-like appearance is a result of...

    The Turelim’s hulk-like appearance is a result of their evolution. I don’t like the idea of requiring a prerequisite for gaining this strength. That said, I’m not opposed to a muscled class of human,...
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    Indeed, that’s true. This is why stories are...

    Indeed, that’s true. This is why stories are pretty much never written and edited by just one person.

    You are right; they were not the ultimate enemy. However, their deviousness and the genuine...
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    I like the idea that the hylden would have...

    I like the idea that the hylden would have experimented on humans. It fits them very well. However, the elemental glyphs still don’t fit…



    The immortality was not a side-effect. This fact is...
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    Sure, I’m not against the hylden having used...

    Sure, I’m not against the hylden having used humans in their original war. It’s just that I don’t think it suits their manner to empower them.



    This is well thought out, but it still doesn’t...
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    They could have had followers that saw them as...

    They could have had followers that saw them as gods, sure, but I feel it doesn’t quite fit the hylden ethos. They were not reliant on humans like Kain’s vampire brood, because they needed no blood....
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    I agree that the hylden should not be mentioned...

    I agree that the hylden should not be mentioned by name, but I think having them pretend to be gods/a god would create confusion as to whether the Elder God or the hylden were behind it. The hylden...
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