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pleomax
22nd Nov 2008, 10:38
Just started playing underworld, and after a little while the frame rate will just fall to like 7 fps from 55.

Then i have to come out of the game and go back in to get it back to 55. Alt-tab works as well.

What is it a memory leak or something ?

Already done it 4 times.

Maybe it's just a bug with the start but the demo didn't do this.

Please patch this up crystal if it is a problem with the game and my config.

Experienced this just the 'once' with legend in next gen same thing. Not with any other games.

Update: finished the game and this problem is only in the kraken level, have to alt-tab out and go back in about 3 times to complete this level.

vista home prem.
e6600 2 core 2.4
2gb ram
8800gts 640mb
180.43 beta driver.
Playing at 1680*1050, 4AA.

orbitsteve
22nd Nov 2008, 13:09
same here , i got the exact configuration as yours.. cant believe such a huge technical glitch on the reputed title.. didi they ever test it out in PCs before releasing or were they just too lazy.

pleomax
22nd Nov 2008, 14:56
Thanks for replying, glad i'm not the only one.

VLuis
8th Dec 2008, 18:44
Same here,

Vista Bus 64
E4500 @ 3200MHz
4GB DDR2 800
8800 GT 512MB (180.48)


Is there any solution already?

qnsbond
8th Dec 2008, 20:27
i had this issue at first and im running a 4870x2 gpu...i adjust my refreshment rate and boom that was all.... also... i need some more info like wats gpu u have resolution your playing

IRON-PAWW
10th Dec 2008, 10:17
I'm just going to add my troubles to the growing list of people with FPS problems. It's weird though.

Did the burning Croft mansion without FPS issues.

Did the underwater temple in the Mediterranean without FPS issue.

Once I've gone into the temple right near the end of "The Path To Avalon" and at the beginning of "Niflheim" I can play as smooth as anything for about 10 minutes at around 80 FPS. Then I dump right down to 8 FPS and get a good slideshow. Can happen at any time and in all different areas where I was sailing along at 80FPS just moments before. When this happens, if I turn on the spot, I will dump down to 8fps looking in a certain direction, then turning a bit more I might come up to around 60fps. If I just say put though looking in that direction the FPS will slowly fall back to 8.

Nothing is running in the background. All unnecessary programs that start with windows axed.

Brand New System Build.
Vista 64
Q9550 Quad
4 gig Ram
Gigabyte 4870X2 (8.11 drivers)
Latest brand spanking new drivers for all hardware.
TRU Graphic settings maxed.


What on Gods Earth is going on? This is like the 3rd PC game that I've had major issues being able to play from the box. Each one has needed extensive reading and tweaking to get working properly.

Not good enough........

IRON-PAWW
10th Dec 2008, 13:53
Found that if I reload my last save the problem seems to go away. That is until it occurs again.

Anyone got any ideas??

Eidos Support
10th Dec 2008, 15:32
For those who have had this issue, please post your dxdiag.txt file, or upload it to a free file hosting website and link to the file so we can check it.

Alternatively, contact your Technical Support Department and send them the file along with a description of your problem:

EIDOS support world map (http://www.eidos.co.uk/support/worldmap.html)

Just as a matter of interest, to those who have a save at this point in the game, could you try switching off Fullscreen Effects from the setup menu and see if this helps at all.

Leak
10th Dec 2008, 16:20
I got a similar drop, but on a single Radeon 4850. It could be that it was the physics going nuts, since it was right after unblocking the gears somewhere near the Kraken, where a few big boulders were tumbling around.

Anyway, just going to the in-game menu and leaving it again fixed it, so I wasn't too bothered...

np: Populous With Short Stories - Test Your Dreams (Drawn In Basic)

IRON-PAWW
11th Dec 2008, 13:33
Thanks Leak I'll give that a try. I also had it in the room with the Kraken in it. Very annoying. Whatever is causing it, it's a real pain because 8 FPS is no fun at all. I'm willing to fault hardware and PC setup when warranted but this has all the hallmarks of a nasty glitch. PC gamers I think have had more than their fair share of glitches of late.....

Hey Leak do you have all graphics settings maxed. Any AA?

Eidos Support
11th Dec 2008, 13:50
Merged two similar threads...

[as per my post above] Could those reporting this issue please post your dxdiag.txt file as a link to an uploaded file or copy/paste it in to a post please so we can look in to this.

IRON-PAWW
11th Dec 2008, 14:24
Ok here's My DXDiag. If you don't want it in this thread then feel free to remove it and I will post it elsewhere.

I can't say I've seen any pattern to the occurrences yet. Seems to happen intermittently at all manner of places in the Kraken level and at the end of "The Path To Avalon" for me.

Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help out.

Thanks for showing some interest. We all appreciate it.


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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/11/2008, 23:18:30
Machine name: HOUNDHOUSE
Operating System: Windows Vistaâ„¢ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: X48-DQ6
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1545MB used, 6873MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9441)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002&REV_00
Display Memory: 2809 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1017 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: atidxx32,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version: 7.15.0010.0154 (English)
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/29/2008 11:09:23, 2243584 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D701-11CF-DF71-4805A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9441
SubSys ID: 0x25421002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A002&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5567 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 2/14/2008 18:03:10, 1359128 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (2- High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 11/2/2006 14:28:10, 273920 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A002&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5567 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 2/14/2008 18:03:10, 1359128 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Realtek Digital Input (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5567 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 2/14/2008 18:03:10, 1359128 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Gaming Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Gaming Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: G15 Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC222
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2939
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC222
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0101
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0101
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 430.3 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3500320AS ATA Device

Drive: D:
Free Space: 435.8 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3500320AS ATA Device

Drive: E:
Free Space: 469.7 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3500320AS ATA Device

Drive: F:
Model: LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) X38/X48 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29E9
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29E9&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_01\3&13C0B0C5&2&30
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) X38/X48 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29E1
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29E1&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_01\3&13C0B0C5&2&08
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) X38/X48 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29E0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29E0&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_01\3&13C0B0C5&2&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 294A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_294A&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2948&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E4
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 2946
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2946&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E3
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E0
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_A0221458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&D8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&D7
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&EF
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&D2
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&D1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&D0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&EA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E9
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&E8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 2926
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&FD
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9R/DO/DH 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2920
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&FA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2916&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&2&F8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_92\3&13C0B0C5&2&F0
Driver: n/a

Name: GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_02\4&CACCF14&0&00E3
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) #2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_02\4&30A2D01F&0&00E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_02\4&2EA914C&0&00E4
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10B5&DEV_8647&SUBSYS_864710B5&REV_AB\5&2D3B1E40&0&400008
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10B5&DEV_8647&SUBSYS_864710B5&REV_AB\5&2D3B1E40&0&200008
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10B5&DEV_8647&SUBSYS_864710B5&REV_AB\4&10AB1444&0&0008
Driver: n/a

Name: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8024&SUBSYS_10001458&REV_00\4&397C2DC8&0&30F0
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA30&SUBSYS_AA301002&REV_00\6&B53F42A&0&01200008
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002&REV_00\6&B53F42A&0&00200008
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_20421002&REV_00\6&169E7D98&0&00400008
Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Nero Audible Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,NeAudible.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Subpicture Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeSubpicture.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
CT Upsampler filter,0x00100000,1,1,Upsample.ax,2.00.0005.0000
Nero Scene Detector 2,0x00200000,2,0,NeSceneDetector.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Stream Buffer Sink,0x00200000,0,0,NeSBE.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Subtitle,0x00200000,1,1,NeSubtitle.ax,4.11.0003.0006
ATI Ticker,0x00200000,0,1,Ticker.ax,
Creative Wave Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WavWrite.ax,3.01.0004.0000
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Smart3D Video Effect Filter,0x00200000,1,1,NSG_dxFilter.dll,1.07.0005.0000
DV Scenes,0x00200000,1,1,NVDV.dll,3.00.0004.0000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero FTC,0x00200000,1,1,NeFTC.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,11.00.6001.7000
BPM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaBPMu.ax,2.00.0002.0000
RealVideo Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,
Creative Recording Wav_Asio Filter,0x00400000,0,1,AudioRec.ax,1.00.0002.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6001.18115
CT Time-Scaling filter,0x00100000,1,1,TimeScal.ax,2.03.0009.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Resize,0x00400000,1,1,NeResize.ax,4.11.0003.0006
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18063
MPEG-2 PSI Reader Filter,0x00200000,0,0,Mpeg2PsiReader.ax,1.00.0000.0004
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero AV Synchronizer,0x00200000,1,1,NeAVSync.ax,4.11.0003.0006
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Audio Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,4.11.0003.0006
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6001.18115
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6001.7000
Nero Digital AVC Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,2,NeNDAud.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Digital AVC File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,NeNDMux.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Digital AVC Video Enc,0x00200000,1,2,NeNDVid.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Digital AVC Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeNDMux.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Digital AVC Muxer,0x00200000,2,1,NeNDMux.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero QuickTime(tm) Video Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTDec.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Smart3D Transition Effect Filter,0x00200000,1,1,NSG_dxFilter.dll,1.07.0005.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
MMACE ProcAmp,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Nero Digital AVC Subpicture Enc,0x00200000,1,0,NeNDMux.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Format Converter,0x00200000,1,1,NeroFormatConv.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,1,1,NeOverlayMixer.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero MP4 Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,NeMP4Splitter.ax,4.11.0003.0006
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Video Decoder HD,0x00400000,1,2,nevideohd.ax,4.11.0003.0006
HighMAT and MPV Navigator Filter,0x00200000,0,3,HMNavigator.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero Photo Source,0x00200000,0,1,NePhotoSource.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Video Analyzer,0x00200000,2,0,NeVideoAnalyzer.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero ES Video Reader,0x00600000,0,1,NDParser.ax,4.11.0003.0006
CT Karaoke filter,0x00100000,1,1,Karaoke.ax,2.00.0012.0000
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6001.7000
DV Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,NVDV.dll,3.00.0004.0000
MPEG-2 Stream Reader Filter,0x00200000,0,0,Mpeg2StreamReader.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Creative AC3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,AC3Srcu.ax,3.02.0001.0000
Nero Audio CD Filter,0x00200000,0,1,NeAudCD.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Creative PCM Raw Writer,0x00200000,1,0,RawWritu.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Nero Smart3D Text Effect Filter,0x00200000,1,1,NSG_dxFilter.dll,1.07.0005.0000
Nero Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeVideoRenderer.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero PresentationGraphics Decoder,0x00600000,2,1,NeBDGraphic.ax,4.11.0003.0006
CT PDP filter,0x00100000,1,1,PDP.ax,1.00.0008.0000
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero DVD Navigator,0x00600000,0,14,nedvd.ax,4.11.0003.0006
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero InteractiveGraphics Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,NeBDGraphic.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero Sound Processor,0x00200000,1,1,NeSoundProc.ax,4.11.0003.0006
RealMedia Source,0x00600000,0,0,RealMediaSplitter.ax,
Nero Audio Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Vcd Navigator,0x00600000,0,2,NeVCD.ax,4.11.0003.0006
CT SmartVolumeManagement filter,0x00100000,1,1,DSCompr.ax,1.00.0008.0000
Creative Audio Gain Filter,0x00200000,1,1,AudGain.ax,1.00.0000.0000
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
Nero Mpeg2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,NeVCR.ax,4.11.0003.0006
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6001.18000
Creative Flac Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,FlacSrcu.ax,1.00.0002.0000
Nero Audio Decoder 2,0x00600000,1,1,neaudio2.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Video Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,4.11.0003.0006
MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Creative MLP Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,MlpSrcu.ax,3.01.0000.0000
Creative File Reader Filter,0x00400000,0,1,FilReadu.ax,1.00.0005.0000
Nero FLV Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,NeFLVSplitter.ax,4.11.0003.0006
SVM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaSVMu.ax,2.00.0002.0000
Nero Stream Buffer Source,0x00200000,0,0,NeSBE.ax,4.11.0003.0006
CT HPVirtualizer filter,0x00100000,1,1,Virtual.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Nero PS Muxer,0x00200000,1,1,NePSMuxer.ax,4.11.0003.0006
RealAudio Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6001.18000
MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Splitter,0x00600000,1,3,NeSplitter.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Deinterlace,0x00200000,1,1,NeDeinterlace.ax,4.11.0003.0006
CT CMSS3 filter,0x00100000,1,1,CMSS3.ax,3.00.0013.0000
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero File Source / Splitter,0x00600000,0,3,NeFSource.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6001.7000
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6001.18115
Creative Ogg Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,OggSrcu.ax,1.00.0001.0000
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Creative NVF Filter,0x00400000,0,1,NvfSrcu.ax,3.01.0001.0000
Noise Reduction,0x00100000,1,1,NoisRedu.ax,3.00.0007.0000
Nero Video Processor,0x00200000,1,1,NeroVideoProc.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Video Decoder,0x00600000,2,1,nevideo.ax,4.11.0003.0006
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Sound Switcher,0x00200000,1,1,NeSoundSwitch.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Creative WMA Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WMAWrite.ax,5.00.0001.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6001.7000
Nero Audio CD Navigator,0x00200000,0,1,NeAudCD.ax,4.11.0003.0006
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Thumbnail Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,NeBDThumbnail.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Creative WMA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,WmaSrc.ax,3.01.0001.0000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero Scene Detector,0x00200000,1,0,NeSceneDetector.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Stream Control,0x00200000,1,1,NeStreamControl.ax,1.00.0000.0000
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero Sample Queue,0x00200000,1,1,NeSampleQueue.ax,1.00.0000.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6001.18063
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero File Source,0x00200000,0,1,NeFileSrc.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero QuickTime(tm) Audio Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTDec.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,NeFileSourceAsync.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero Ogg Splitter,0x00400000,1,1,NeOggSplitter.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Nero DVD Decoder,0x00600000,2,1,nevideo.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.6001.7000
Nero Digital Parser,0x00600000,0,3,NDParser.ax,4.11.0003.0006
RealMedia Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6001.18063
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Nero MP3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,NeMp3Encoder.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Creative CDDA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CDDA.ax,3.00.0003.0000
Creative LiveRecording Filter SxS,0x00400000,0,1,LiveRecu.ax,5.00.0001.0000
Nero Frame Capture,0x00200000,1,1,NeCapture.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Creative Internet Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,InetSrcu.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Nero Video Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,4.11.0003.0006
HighMAT/MPV Navigator Client Filter,0x00200000,0,0,HMNavigator.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Nero DV Splitter,0x00200000,1,2,NeDVSplitter.ax,4.11.0003.0006
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6001.18000
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6001.18115
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Fraps Video Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18063

Audio Capture Sources:
Realtek Digital Input (Realtek ,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio HDMI out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6001.18061
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6001.18061
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6001.18061
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6001.18061
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.6001.18115

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6001.18115
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6001.18115
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6001.18115
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6001.18115

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Digital Output Device (HDMI) (2,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
DirectSound: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (2- High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18063

Eidos Support
11th Dec 2008, 14:36
Thanks for that IRON-PAWW.

Could you try disabling crossfire and see if this makes a difference? Also, have you tried switching off the fullscreen effects I mentioned before from the setup menu?

IRON-PAWW
11th Dec 2008, 14:47
Ok sure, let me try these out and I'll post back what I find.

VLuis
14th Dec 2008, 12:43
Hi,

I disable "FULL SCREEN EFFECTS" and resolved this issue, but after that I just found another one, I'm in the beginning of the game in the underwater temple in a part where I need to put some weights, when I drop the Weights (they seems to be heavy) they stick to Lara's feet, is just horrible to see a heavy weight being kicked like a football ball. I found this game too crapy, I go ask for a refund, simply there is better things to spend my money and time.

IRON-PAWW
14th Dec 2008, 14:36
I've progressed a little as a test.

So far I've only experienced the FPS drop at the very end of "The Path to Avalon" and all throughout "Niflheim". Played through "The Norse Connection" with everything on max without issue at very decent frame rates.

What I'll now do is go back to some previous saves and try to recreate the problem. I'll try the methods the guys suggest above (eg ALT+TABBING out) to see if they help. Then I'll try playing through without crossfire and full screen effects. That could potentially be 3 playthroughs of that level. Hope I get a TR poster for my efforts....:)

For what it's worth, this game isn't crap. In my opinion. Others may think so and that's fine. I get as peeved as anyone with glitches like this but if support shows interest in the glitch then that's a good start. You have to give credit where credit is due and this game looks absolutely fantastic. The environments look the most realistic yet and I can't stop looking at the water FX. Surely thorough testing would have revealed the issue but I'm no software developer. I know this much, Program code gets complicated fast and few people have a true gift for it. It would have been nice if the game hadn't shipped with this issue in it. Still, bugs in PC games aren't exactly a new phenomenon.

Support has extended the hand of faith here people. Anyone care to help me out in testing this issue?