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Shirokurou
11th Jan 2014, 00:01
So yeah, people like being rewarded for feats and time poured into something. I am speaking from experience, as I'm a PS3 player who has gone the extra mile to get a platinum trophy in a game I like. Steam achievements are nice and all, but a "physical" reward in game, a trophy, medal or gifted weapon you can look over in the menus goes a long way to some players (me included). Prestiges, custom dog-tags, many games have these things. Add a unlockable skin to a select few of these and it's also ways to show-off.

What it could be like...
A Medal set (as seen in Valkyria Chronicles or War Thunder)
For the Humans a straight up medal and order (decoration) system. I don't mean literally Distinguished Vampire Slaying cross 2nd class. Stylistically, we shouldn't make them look like straight-up medals (i.e US medals), but more like old style Empire Orders (i.e. Order of the Thistle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Thistle). And you'd have a ready Lvl.1, Lvl2 and Lvl.3 to the awards and so forth in the form of "Cross", "Grand Cross", "Star of the Grand Cross" and so forth. You can go with neck orders, chest orders and maybe prized weapons at the end of it. It would fit the mood.
Another good way of adding levels to the order is...the the Iron Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_cross) award the Germans had. 1) Knight's Cross 2) Knight's Cross with Oak leaves 3) Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords 4) Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds and etc.

Other examples of medal/order styles I think would fit in with Nosgoth - Japanese medals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Chrysanthemum) and orders (they look distinctly foreign to Europeans and not like "war medals" in the mindset or Russian Empire orders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St._Vladimir) which are rarely seen.

And obviously, ceremonial swords along with it (or in-game swords as a sign of distinction)

For the Vampires, since they don't really have a military with decorations, there could be signs to distinction and objects of power: a Skull-goblet, a red cloak, a Bela Lugosi's Dracula style amulet. Or in an interesting way...rare minerals and gemstones. The artists might have some fun with this and Vampires love them some gemstones. Blood-red rubies, onyx stuff, pallasite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallasite) shards, dragon scales and that kind of stuff. And again, say...a diamond claw glove as a weapon in game. Or the aforementioned red cloak as a skin. People would grind for that to show it off

Another variant of the reward system could be the say the "Empty room to fill" (i.e. Final Fantasy XII's Sky Pirate Den).
Basically an empty picture to fill in with missing pieces, which you get for completing in-game tasks: kills, wins, hours logged.
For the humans, I say, let's have someone knight them for their bravery and grant then a title of Sir or Dame (if it's visible in-game, it would also be a show-off thing). And with that, give them a coat of arms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_(heraldry)) which fills itself as they get achievements. Start out with an almost empty shield and then get certain elements in like arrows for Scout kills, a crown for maxing out, crest-holders and the like.
For the vampires...the same thing could work for elegant vamps like Dracula, but for the brutal clans...
1) A battle banner, which fills out the same way or say a...
2) Full-body tattoo Yakuza style (which will probably be viewable only from the menus and not in game)
3) Or a castle. Vampires have castles in castlevania. With a manor getting war trophies in (like a tower of skulls) and say gifted weapons on walls from the clan leaders, a wall with chip marks and the like. The manor should be in an obvious state of decay, like Dracula's castle always is, so say the Sentinel can get away with having a castle as "cave"

Sorry for ranting on about that. Just came over me.

And if you are doing a reward system with titles and the like, here's my personal list of "dont's"
- No super hard stuff like "Win a game without dying once and getting 20 kills", cause that'll just lead to people boosting it.
- Don't overuse skulls (Call of Duty, Battlefield and Mass Effect have Skulls on everything). It'll get old fast.
- Don't make it a "pay-to-get" thing. Yeah, so people will shell out just for bragging rights, but many will go "Oh man, he bought an award, I'm legit, I ain't doin that". If the award can be gotten free though, someone will buy XP boosts or better weapons just to get it quicker.

What do you guys and devs think?

cmstache
11th Jan 2014, 14:55
Any of this would come MUCH later. This game is in closed alpha. The game systems themselves aren't even fully developed yet.

anatomyhorror
11th Jan 2014, 17:33
I definitely agree with some of this stuff, but yeah the game is just too early at the moment. Hopefully the devs come up with some cool stuff down the road like you've mentioned.

Shirokurou
12th Jan 2014, 14:24
Well the sooner this stuff can be thought about, the better, IMHO. So it could be worked (mostly by artists I guess) while the game is being polished and working out its kinks, rather than being tacked on later.

lucinvampire
12th Jan 2014, 15:51
I like some of your ideas :D


Other examples of medal/order styles I think would fit in with Nosgoth - Japanese medals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Chrysanthemum) and orders (they look distinctly foreign to Europeans and not like "war medals" in the mindset or Russian Empire orders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St._Vladimir) which are rarely seen.

....though these medals are cool - I think personally I'd prefer them to be more fitting to series previous symbol designs (style wise)...or other things seen in the LoK universe :D
http://www.thelostworlds.net/LoKSeries/Symbols.html

Shirokurou
16th Jan 2014, 14:05
I like some of your ideas :D

....though these medals are cool - I think personally I'd prefer them to be more fitting to series previous symbol designs (style wise)...or other things seen in the LoK universe :D
http://www.thelostworlds.net/LoKSeries/Symbols.html
Well I did propose those as reference. And Germany was also known for using runes...

And the class symbols as excellence awards are nobrainers.

Varulven
16th Jan 2014, 15:35
And Germany was also known for using runes...

If you need some expertise, I am the one. :D
I know much things about runes.

Shirokurou
17th Feb 2014, 09:58
If you need some expertise, I am the one. :D
I know much things about runes.
Lok runes or Germany runes?

Shirokurou
19th Mar 2014, 22:34
Bumping because this was an Alpha topic and maybe the new Beta people have ideas.