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evandevine
5th Mar 2008, 17:54
These are my theories on possible storylines for the new game. If theres already a thread like this Im sorry but I couldnt find one.

PREQUEL IDEAS

1) You play as some aug mech broad like anna navarro name emilie or however the name is spelled in the trailer. Plausible but probably a let down for hardcore deus ex fans.

2) You follow the beginnings of Paul Dentons role in UNATCO. Although he was kind of a wuss it'd be interesting because the game play would probably involve a lot of stealth and trying to stay under the radar of UNATCO. It'd also lead right into the first game which would please fans that didnt like the option of multiple endings.

3) The "Halo 2" theory. You take turns playing as both characters. Possibly starting out with both of them being like JC in the first game and them both coming to realize the real agenda of UNATCO. Would most likely end with the aug mech broad being fragged.

SEQUEL IDEAS

1) Only reason for a sequel would be if you played as Alex (yes I liked Invisible War. No where near as good as the first but it was still enjoyable) and it took place in the storyline of the Omar. Desolate earth and fighting Omar and probably Templar because they're harder to get rid of then crotch crabs. That'd be tits!


My theories for the new game. Id like to see other peoples theories on the subject

Angel/0A
5th Mar 2008, 20:34
3) The "Halo 2" theory. You take turns playing as both characters. Possibly starting out with both of them being like JC in the first game and them both coming to realize the real agenda of UNATCO. Would most likely end with the aug mech broad being fragged.

A "Halo 2" theory would be more like playing as one of the Dentons and Agent Sherman IMO. :P

Azrepheal
5th Mar 2008, 20:46
Ive heard it been said that only the Illuminati ending of Invisible War would make a good sequel. Personally, I think a game made from the Denton / Great Advance ending would be boring (everybody is biomodded, so youd just be Joe Average), the Omar ending would be too.... wierd, the Illuminati ending would be good, but personally, if there was a sequel, Id like to see it from the Templar ending.

With the Templars religious totalitarianism, the world would plunge back into a gritty dystopia a la DX 1, and one would assume you would be the first (or one of the first) biomodded agents created as part of a resistance against the Tempars. You'd be 'special' again :P

IcarusIsLookingForYou
6th Mar 2008, 01:20
With the Templars religious totalitarianism, the world would plunge back into a gritty dystopia a la DX 1, and one would assume you would be the first (or one of the first) biomodded agents created as part of a resistance against the Tempars. You'd be 'special' again :P

Although I don't see it actually happening in the next DX (most likely going to be a prequel), that's actually a damn good idea for a sequel; far better than most of the scenarios I've read. I didn't even consider that angle when I thought of ideas for a sequel. Kudos.

Azrepheal
6th Mar 2008, 02:01
Although I don't see it actually happening in the next DX (most likely going to be a prequel), that's actually a damn good idea for a sequel; far better than most of the scenarios I've read. I didn't even consider that angle when I thought of ideas for a sequel. Kudos.

Cheers, IILFY. I agree - a prequel is far more likely, but that idea popped into my head as a possible sequel. In all honesty, I think I would prefere a prequel - one of my problems with DX:IW was that it was too.... alien. The first one was futuristic, sure, but it was a world I still recognised - even the 'high-tech' labs and secret bases looked 'real'. IW... I dont know. There was something about it - even the 'run down brick building' areas were too shiny, a little too clean. IMO it took away some of the grittyness and realism.

Anyhow, back on-topic - yes, if it is a sequel, being a resistance group against the templars would be my ideal setting (with other groups secretted away - such as the Illuminati, Denton-follows, hell even MJ12 - wanting you to bring down the Templars so THEY can have another shot at what they want :) - maybe even splinter Templar groups wanting to use your 'abominable modifications' so they can seize power from their brothers)

If (as is far more likely) a prequel is in the works - id like a more gritty realistic setting, characters from DX1 (Anna, Gunther, Carter, Beth DuClare perhaps - maybe even DeBeers, depending on when its set) and in terms of story.. I dunno. Something about controlling the masses, obviously. Perhaps theres a certin threat that would need to be dealt with, and certain members of the Illuminati feel that one way would be better, while others feel another way would (ie the beginnings of a split, the origins of MJ12)

Speaking of which - while MJ12 may just be a name, the way they are sometimes referred to (The Twelve Who Rule) leads me to believe that there were originally 12 members of the Illuminati who split off. Obviously Bob Page, and while its not set in stone that they were of the original 12, perhaps Walton Simons and Maggie Chow. Itd be nice to see the other members (if the story involves the MJ12 origins, obviously)

<Sigh> its going to be a looong year :o

IcarusIsLookingForYou
6th Mar 2008, 02:41
Cheers, IILFY. I agree - a prequel is far more likely, but that idea popped into my head as a possible sequel. In all honesty, I think I would prefere a prequel - one of my problems with DX:IW was that it was too.... alien. The first one was futuristic, sure, but it was a world I still recognised - even the 'high-tech' labs and secret bases looked 'real'. IW... I dont know. There was something about it - even the 'run down brick building' areas were too shiny, a little too clean. IMO it took away some of the grittyness and realism.

Exactly! The world in DX was a world that was just on the cusp of all those incredible technological breakthroughs present in IW. It definitely hits closer to home than the world in IW. It was also a far more appropriate setting for all of the "detective" work you do.

As far as the probable prequel goes, I have a suspicion we're going to be controlling Paul and the story, as you said, is going to revolve around MJ12's split from the Illuminati and subsequent rise to power through their takeover of the United Nations. A lot of fans have voiced displeasure over this possibility, but I'm all for it. I think one of the best ways Eidos can win back the hearts of DX fans is by reinventing something familiar. Who knows, if the devs actually nail this and make a great game, a true sequel later on will be that much sweeter.

lightbringerrr
6th Mar 2008, 05:53
Exactly! The world in DX was a world that was just on the cusp of all those incredible technological breakthroughs present in IW. It definitely hits closer to home than the world in IW. It was also a far more appropriate setting for all of the "detective" work you do.

As far as the probable prequel goes, I have a suspicion we're going to be controlling Paul and the story, as you said, is going to revolve around MJ12's split from the Illuminati and subsequent rise to power through their takeover of the United Nations. A lot of fans have voiced displeasure over this possibility, but I'm all for it. I think one of the best ways Eidos can win back the hearts of DX fans is by reinventing something familiar. Who knows, if the devs actually nail this and make a great game, a true sequel later on will be that much sweeter.

Mmm...
The technology of the "fetus" looks more advanced than a mech-aug like Gunther or Anna. And remember; it's a fetus. Mechs chose augmentation as adults. Straight-Up Hardware; nothing biological.
And...the Dentons were "programmed" to believe they were kids once and that they had a childhood. You couldn't pull that off with a bunch of 'The Matrix'-style interfaces all over thier bodies. "Mom, what's this port on the back of my neck for"? Doesn't jive.

I just don't see a prequel based on the "information" we have so far. And to be honest; I don't want one.
I stand by my original Illuminati as Canon ending for IW, with perhaps some diversion-style twist that keeps the Dentons alive, yet out on the fringes.
If that's the case, get ready to play JC like you've never played him before.
Remember; even without the interface that made all of mankind in to a JC/Helios, JC had wicked-strange new skills. The ability to build anything from his mind.
Sound Good? I'm in.

Joe_Blow
6th Mar 2008, 08:10
Mmm...
The technology of the "fetus" looks more advanced than a mech-aug like Gunther or Anna. And remember; it's a fetus. Mechs chose augmentation as adults. Straight-Up Hardware; nothing biological.
And...the Dentons were "programmed" to believe they were kids once and that they had a childhood. You couldn't pull that off with a bunch of 'The Matrix'-style interfaces all over thier bodies. "Mom, what's this port on the back of my neck for"? Doesn't jive.

I just don't see a prequel based on the "information" we have so far. And to be honest; I don't want one.
I stand by my original Illuminati as Canon ending for IW, with perhaps some diversion-style twist that keeps the Dentons alive, yet out on the fringes.
If that's the case, get ready to play JC like you've never played him before.
Remember; even without the interface that made all of mankind in to a JC/Helios, JC had wicked-strange new skills. The ability to build anything from his mind.
Sound Good? I'm in.

HEAR HEAR to that mate. I know a prequel would be cool to the hardcore gamers of the series. But for everyone else who "just" played one or both of the games,like myself, we really don't give crap about why MJ12 split from the Illuminati or how Paul stayed under the radar of UNATCO. Because, lets face it folks, we know that MJ12 split and are finished off, Paul did not get captured by UNATCO, JC merged with HELIOS, and Alex made a decision that changed the fate of humanity. Here's another thing to think about, if it's a prequel involving Paul and the MJ12, you already know how it's going to end. Now how fun of a game would that be. It's like knowing when, where, and how you're going to die. NO FUN!!!

I think that a cross of the Illuminati and Templar ending would be the ideal sequel. Kind of like how they combined the endings of DX in IW.(Here's what I think it's going to be) The Illuminati have taken control of the biomod technology, but the Templars have stolen it and crashed that space shuttle it was on. The Templars have had a Coup D`etat and the new leader is using the technology to make their own Denton's to take over the world. Since they have the technology, the Illuminati are forced to create a new Biomod system that is born entirely of the nanotechnolgy, ie. The Fetus in the video, and you are now the new Super Denton who has to root out the Templar Bio-Insurgents who are hell bent on world domination. But along the way you meet back up with the new Apostle Corp, JC has been able to rebuild himself with his new powers. You know, something along those lines.

I know your all going to hate me because I made this way to damn long. But, you can't say that won't make for a kick ass sequel to DX and IW.


Peace out yall

evandevine
6th Mar 2008, 12:56
After reading it the templar sequel idea seems like probably the coolest idea for the next game. I have a feeling though that with this game its going to end up being a cloverfield-esque viral campaign until the game comes out and Im going to be pulling my freaking hair out trying to figure out what the storyline is about.

lightbringerrr
6th Mar 2008, 14:27
After reading it the templar sequel idea seems like probably the coolest idea for the next game. I have a feeling though that with this game its going to end up being a cloverfield-esque viral campaign until the game comes out and Im going to be pulling my freaking hair out trying to figure out what the storyline is about.

Don't give them any ideas!!!!!
BAD EVANDEVINE; NO GAMING FOR YOU FOR A WEEK!!! :rasp:

lightbringerrr
6th Mar 2008, 14:46
I know your all going to hate me because I made this way to damn long. But, you can't say that won't make for a kick ass sequel to DX and IW.

Not at all. It's fun to get in there and try to figure out where everything is headed, especially at this point because we have not a solid statement or clue about much of anything.

Now to counter:

I just don't see the Templars being a part of this. If we assume the Illuminati ending as canon, you can also assume that Dumier, Nicolette, and Alex went right to work wiping them out.
I had stated in an older post that the Templars and the Order were about as ancillary a group of characters as you could find for Invisible War, and I still stand by it.
Also, I think we'll be seeing a return to playing JC, and at times maybe even Alex or Paul, ala KOTOR.
The reason I believe this is because many fans were disappointed at having to play a diffrent character, Denton-Clone or not.
The fact that the teaser uses the original theme from DX1 instead of something else, points strongly to this scenario.
In any case, it will be very exciting to watch all of this unfold until we finally get to the truth. Sorta' makes me feel like I did while speculating and waiting for Episode III.
Peace.

evandevine
6th Mar 2008, 16:52
Don't give them any ideas!!!!!
BAD EVANDEVINE; NO GAMING FOR YOU FOR A WEEK!!! :rasp:

IM SORRY IM SORRY!!!!

I personally dont want to play as JC in the next game. If its a sequel Id like to play as Alex and have them develop his character more. Prehaps make him more of a freedom fighter type character thats leading a resistance against the Templars or going back to my previous comment against the Omar. If its a prequel Id like to play as a new character with totally different characteristics from Paul and JC.

The only reason I dont want to play as JC is that his role in IW just left a bad taste in my mouth. He went from this epic bad ass to a pompous Bill Gates with sunglasses character.

Overall the story just needs revamped. DX1 was epic one of my favorite games of all time. IW had its highs and lows but over all I wouldnt want it excluded from the cannon. I just want the developers to take this game to the next level and make it on par or maybe some how better than the first one.

IcarusIsLookingForYou
6th Mar 2008, 21:29
Don't give them any ideas!!!!!
BAD EVANDEVINE; NO GAMING FOR YOU FOR A WEEK!!! :rasp:

The game has already passed proof of concept, so I think it's safe to assume the devs already know what direction they're going in storywise. I highly doubt someone from the team is going to be so inspired by one of our "theories" that he's going to recommend changing the direction they're already going in.

lightbringerrr
7th Mar 2008, 04:40
The game has already passed proof of concept, so I think it's safe to assume the devs already know what direction they're going in storywise. I highly doubt someone from the team is going to be so inspired by one of our "theories" that he's going to recommend changing the direction they're already going in.

That's fantastic news; thanks.

evandevine
7th Mar 2008, 13:51
The game has already passed proof of concept, so I think it's safe to assume the devs already know what direction they're going in storywise. I highly doubt someone from the team is going to be so inspired by one of our "theories" that he's going to recommend changing the direction they're already going in.

This thread should probably be closed then. Its nonsense and Im sorry for posting it :(

IcarusIsLookingForYou
7th Mar 2008, 15:39
This thread should probably be closed then. Its nonsense and Im sorry for posting it :(

No reason to be sorry, evan. We can still speculate regardless.

thobis
7th Mar 2008, 15:51
I think that they deserve to make the game similar to the first in that they bring back the skill points and original life-like scenery they had in the beginning. IW was decent, but like someone mentioned, just a little too futuristic!

Whether it be a sequel or prequel, i think they should make this game a whole lot darker and more sinister!

IcarusIsLookingForYou
7th Mar 2008, 16:30
I think that they deserve to make the game similar to the first in that they bring back the skill points and original life-like scenery they had in the beginning. IW was decent, but like someone mentioned, just a little too futuristic!

Whether it be a sequel or prequel, i think they should make this game a whole lot darker and more sinister!

I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I'll actually defend IW on some of those points. I thought it was dark and sinister enough, the plot was just convoluted and a little silly. As far as the futuristic locales, it makes sense when you consider the time that has passed since the first one and the theory of how technology exponentially grows over the years. I think its easier to relate to the locales in DX because it hits closer to home with us. My beef with IW was the small locations and gameplay that barely resembled the original.

But hey, it looks like it's going to be a prequel anyway, so it looks like you're going to get your wish in at least that aspect. Wish I could say I'm pumped, but I've got my fingers crossed.

Edx
8th Mar 2008, 16:00
2) You follow the beginnings of Paul Dentons role in UNATCO. Although he was kind of a wuss it'd be interesting because the game play would probably involve a lot of stealth and trying to stay under the radar of UNATCO. It'd also lead right into the first game which would please fans that didnt like the option of multiple endings.



That would suck. I dont know why people think playing Paul Denton would be a good idea. Theres pretty much more nothing to learn! boooorrrring.

If it were a prequal, it would have to be with a new character

mouse
8th Mar 2008, 18:29
That would suck. I dont know why people think playing Paul Denton would be a good idea. Theres pretty much more nothing to learn! boooorrrring.

If it were a prequal, it would have to be with a new character

agreed...

I want a fresh character, not the old ones. I'd like to have some cross-references to DX1+2 though...

GruntOwner
11th Mar 2008, 16:33
JC triggers the collapse, and you are a privately commisioned Aug from another country where Versalife have some serious competition. You find your self as a nanoaugmented agent, just like before, and the game focuses around rebuilding the world. Endings could include helping reinstate global communication, helping JC to anihilate a totalitarian group who are only trying to get it back up to take it over before someone else has the chance, triggering an all out nuclear holocaust to end it all, or helping the illuminati keep their communications up but the rest of the world in the dark, giving them ultimate power. In IW I just had to question why it went so harmlessly until a network was back up. If I were in that situation, I'd start building a nuclear bunker, because people would be able to get away with anything as long as the effects weren't local.

EpeSeta
12th Mar 2008, 18:43
I want a fresh character, not the old ones. I'd like to have some cross-references to DX1+2 though...

Here's a suggestion: Bob Page. How he came to the Illuminati and how he broke off, stuff like that. How he became a bloodthirsty megalomaniac.

Another setting I'd like to see is the Collapse, especially something to do with how the Omar were created.

mouse
12th Mar 2008, 19:05
Here's a suggestion: Bob Page. How he came to the Illuminati and how he broke off, stuff like that. How he became a bloodthirsty megalomaniac.

Another setting I'd like to see is the Collapse, especially something to do with how the Omar were created.

well... Bob isn't so 'fresh' anymore, don't you think? Everyone knows his fate, so it is kind of pointless to have him as a protagonist who has the chance to decide which way to go...

I'd like to have him as an important charakter if it's really a prequel... maybe he's your 'teacher' and you may choose to follow his designs or to betray him and then fight for peace, justice, your own plans of world domination...?

Gary_Savage
12th Mar 2008, 19:24
well... Bob isn't so 'fresh' anymore, don't you think? Everyone knows his fate, so it is kind of pointless to have him as a protagonist who has the chance to decide which way to go...

I'd like to have him as an important charakter if it's really a prequel... maybe he's your 'teacher' and you may choose to follow his designs or to betray him and then fight for peace, justice, your own plans of world domination...?

I actually that EpeSeta meant for Bob Page to be a character, rather than a protagonist; maybe this could be done later, in say, Dues Ex: Alter Ego, or something.

As for your idea of initially being Bob Page's protege, and subsequently fighting for peace, that sounds to me a lot like Paul Denton (Walton Simons might have been better, but he never comes around), though I am not too sure whether Bob page and Paul Denton had any personal interaction.

I like the idea of playing as Paul Denton, myself. Perhaps his choices led to the location of the crash of the lunar mining vessel (or was that a space station) in DX1? I am sure something could be done to give players a choice as to the game's endings, even if that means the game has to end a year before the events in DX1. Just my personal bias.

Arbiter
14th Mar 2008, 12:34
How about the anti Jc idea ? your as in invisible war. student etc but born and bred to take jc/paul whoever down ? kinda the opposite of what has been done in the previous Deus Ex's ???

Wgibbsw
14th Mar 2008, 19:14
Wow I'm so glad I found this forum lol

Possible story lines could be that (presuming that maybe the canon ending was JC's) Helios still wasn't as all-powerful as it hoped and that there was some resistance to the nanite dispersion that engulfed the world. The other factions in IW knew it was going to happen so maybe they created a defense to it? The terraforming machine things in IW were able to stop Nanite Swell 11 so this could have been used. This leaves some of the factions alive or at least a new incarnation of them. Helios would then need to breed a new agent to do it's bidding - which might be the child seen growing in the teaser.

Or this could be the enemy growing and JC or Alex D or whoever you control has to deal with not being the most advanced agent out there. Someone who was once convinced of their own superiority now having to deal with being weak and inferior could lead to some interesting storytelling moments. :scratch:

Gary_Savage
17th Mar 2008, 20:09
agreed...

I want a fresh character, not the old ones. I'd like to have some cross-references to DX1+2 though...

Hey, how about playing as the mechanically augmented girl at the bar, in NYC (from DX1, if we havea prequel)? She has obviously had some disappointments with UNATCO, so she might tie in well with the story. My first playthrough, I actually expected more involvement in the story, from her, since right before the raid on the 'Ton she said something like: "Mr. Denton, I know who you are, and I know your brother... take cover/get out of town." At that point I really thought that she was more than just a bartender, and that she knew a lot more than she appeared to. Also, I really liked how she could hide her mech augs under a long sleeved garment, and walk among people like she had never been augmented. Playing her would allow a player to blend into the crowd, and to be mech augmented at the same time.

Perhaps we could play as her in the lead up to the events in DX1, or perrhaps during the events of DX1, or maybe in the aftermath of DX1? The last of UNATCO's mech augs was killed when JC killed Gunther, but obviously, there were some retired mech augs out there, who could play a role in the aftermath of DX1 (if the game is a sequel to DX1). Maybe it was some of them who tried to work towards a human baby born with with augmentations, to reduce society's prejudices against mech augs? Just guessing how the story could go.

What do you all think about playing as girl from DX1's NYC bar?

Azrepheal
17th Mar 2008, 23:56
I don't know about playing her as a character, but I certainly would like to see her make an appearance (if it is a prequel) - she is a very interesting character.

But I like the point you bring up about being mech-augmented, I think that could be a very interesting way of getting through a game - perhaps being able to nano-augment yourself as well as mech-augment yourself. Perhaps mech-augmentation has more practical uses (a permanent lockpick in your hand, better targetting system in your eye) but the effects are more obvious and youd have some difficulty talking to characters against augmentation (whereas if you were nano-aug'ed you have less impressive abilities that stay hidden)

gamer0004
18th Mar 2008, 19:49
I always thought that nano-augmentations are as powerfull as mech augs, but because mech augs are made of metal they protect you better than the nano-augs. And because mech augs are made out of metal, it'd cost a lot more energy to lift everything up, so a lot of energy would be lost on that.

Azrepheal
20th Mar 2008, 19:37
I actually that EpeSeta meant for Bob Page to be a character, rather than a protagonist; maybe this could be done later, in say, Dues Ex: Alter Ego, or something.

Something Ive been thinking about recently is that section in Area 51 where you are created - theres 4 capsules, and you are usually so shocked to see your own empty one, the others themselves dont capture the imagination as they should.

Next to your capsule, is a clone called Alex Denton (leads into DX2, obviously) and on the other side of the chamber are two clones from Bob Page and Walton Simons (the clones have been given new names, but I cant remember them) JC was a prototype, but only for nanotechnology - the game never (as far as Im aware) goes deeply into how extensive their cloning project was. Whether a sequel or a prequel, I think exploring the clone idea could make for some fairly epic moments (you fight through 3 levels just to take out the head of MJ12, finally destroy him in a magnificent showdown, only for 5 other copies of the same character to step out of the shadows with nasty smirks on their faces)

I dunno, just think it could be quite cool.

Gary_Savage
20th Mar 2008, 21:31
Next to your capsule, is a clone called Alex Denton (leads into DX2, obviously) and on the other side of the chamber are two clones from Bob Page and Walton Simons (the clones have been given new names, but I cant remember them) JC was a prototype, but only for nanotechnology - the game never (as far as Im aware) goes deeply into how extensive their cloning project was. Whether a sequel or a prequel, I think exploring the clone idea could make for some fairly epic moments (you fight through 3 levels just to take out the head of MJ12, finally destroy him in a magnificent showdown, only for 5 other copies of the same character to step out of the shadows with nasty smirks on their faces)

I dunno, just think it could be quite cool.

Same faces, but different personalities, that might work. In real life, people like Saddam Hussein used to have look-alikes parading around, even on television, so no one knew if it really was him. So sure, it sounds plausible that Bob Page would have clones of himself made, and augmented with nano-technology, to fool people. On the other hand, why would Bob Page have his clones augmented before him? He had already taken the risk of being overthrown by WS (not that it was indicated in the story), when he auged WS before himself. On top of that, how would anyone know if one of BP's clones decided to replace BP? I don't think that someone with the paranoia of a former Illuminatus would do something like that. After Paul, and especially JC Denton, BP should know better than to hand over that much power to someone else, especially someone who could pass for himself, thus unilaterally altering the chain of command. To me, that would be a plot hole. Just my thoughts.

Azrepheal
20th Mar 2008, 22:36
Good point - Im just spinning out random ideas tho, not thinking any of it through :p I guess if you delve back into the "what seperates man and machine" question of how much do you have to be modified before youre not considered human... with enough augmentation it should be possible for a remote system (an ai) to control a human body (whether or not the human occupant wants it!) - i guess almost like the helios / Denton merger, but a straight forward take over, rather than integrating systems...

in short what Im getting at is a malevolent AI (eg Icarus) controlling multiple clones as its 'physical presense in the real world' :scratch: I dunno. It is, after all, Deus Ex, theres a tonne of stuff they could do with it

lightbringerrr
21st Mar 2008, 00:48
Good point - Im just spinning out random ideas tho, not thinking any of it through :p I guess if you delve back into the "what seperates man and machine" question of how much do you have to be modified before youre not considered human... with enough augmentation it should be possible for a remote system (an ai) to control a human body (whether or not the human occupant wants it!) - i guess almost like the helios / Denton merger, but a straight forward take over, rather than integrating systems...

in short what Im getting at is a malevolent AI (eg Icarus) controlling multiple clones as its 'physical presense in the real world' :scratch: I dunno. It is, after all, Deus Ex, theres a tonne of stuff they could do with it

I've been an advocate for Page / Simons clones since day one on this forum!

JerichoMccoy
21st Mar 2008, 01:55
I've been looking for a thread like this for a while.

1. New Character. Nano-technology from IW seems to be widespread and at least in the developmental field where anyone can grab a hold(Correct me if I'm wrong) of the process. However, as in DX1, there were many 'Mechs' that were still in use and of fear of being thrown in the trash as obsolete models.

If DX3 is going to have Mech and Nano mods, you obviously could not play Paul Denton (No Mech Mods nor were the Nano-Canisters JC used to upgrade) in a prequel. Let the sequel commence with a new character.

2. Storyline-Hybrid. Yes, DX2's storylines were a bit lackluster since they all delved into a "One Side to Rule Them All" sort of thing.

Interpretation: With Helios about to unleash the Universal BioMod theory, Alex decides, in the last minute, it would abolish the ways of Free Thinking and Behavior(I would use clever words, but I'm tired from my own 'research'). So, he pulled the plug at the last minute, giving only a few of those the ability to use Nano-Augmentation and be truly equals with Helios, their ever Guardian(This would be the same as a living Conscience made of Hardware).

The result put JC Helios in a vegetative state, Alex has surged his own Bio-mods and is now considered "Human", and Paul with the help of Tracer Tong and the Greys, take JC Helios out of the area, before the Illuminati or the Templars to regain control again.

The Illuminati begin again, trying to reassemble the world into a new order while the Templars are trying to rid the world of the "Un-pure". With the spread of Helios' BioMod unitarian project (I'm so out of big words right now), the few that have been touched began cultivating a new world, a new city, to show the World what could have been. However the Templars see evil, the Illuminati see control loss, and You...

Well, you are created in the middle of all of this. The city is called "Jericho" (Excuse me for being unoriginal) and it is the central hub of all who were touched by Helios before his physical fall by the one named Alex. You wake up to find that the Hub that your in is being attacked by an unknown force and your separated by your peaceful existence. You have to make a choice of whom to ally with, what abilities you should focus on, and most of all... your Destiny.

The Omar can be involved in a separate entity(Because in a way, they are the opposite of what Helios is asking... or is it?), the cities and areas range from Utopia's (Helios) to Dystopian (Illuminati Controlled with the Upper and Lower classes) to Medieval (Templar influenced but without the castles), to the ones in the middle (The working classes that have no idea what is going on...Guess where Alex is at?)

Where does the 'Mech' mods come to play? The modifications that can make you look like Gunther or Anna?

In the Illuminati controlled areas(Which will not be openly discussed just *snaps his fingers* like that), the lower class will most definitely have the older models of Mechs walking around, bestowed as Heroes because they help the lower class solve problems the upper class are not even going to deal with (which can lead a lot of shaddy Templar dealing...). As this 'Enlightened' being who came from Helios' City ("Jericho"), your given sneers and backtalk. You can get information and usually do a mission or two to make the people get off your back or...

You can augment your body with old mech-bio-ware. It uses less energy and gives the lower class someone to look up to, but the Higher class will look down at you if you try to move up. That's not the only time Mechs will be at work...

Nor will Nano-mods. You can bet your ass Nicolette has augmented herself in-case another "Alex Denton" show boat comes around.

This post is long and for a first timer, yeah, hard to read at first, but I'd like to end this segment with this story I remember reading from somewhere:

"There was a Great King who ruled over a great people. The people loved the King because he had great ideas and was a great humanitarian. However, an enemy of the kingdom came to town and poisoned the water well with a potion that made all who drank it, insane. When the people drank from the well, they started going crazy and before the cause could be found, all of the townspeople were out of their mind.
Yet the King, who had his own water well, was still very much sane, and wanted to help the people. But the people were all going against him. They kept saying the King was strange and that he should be kicked out of town.
Fearful for his safety and that of his townsfolk, the King did what he had to do. He drank from the Town Well and went insane. Soon afterward, the townspeople accepted their King, and the Kingdom was left in ruins."

Somebody probably knows the story better than I do, but I think it could have some significance in some way.

Kevyne-Shandris
23rd Mar 2008, 14:06
Well, with the clone image of the trailer, and whatever the object was before it, it seems to be a sequel instead of prequel.

Think they're drawing too much sci-fi into the DX world by the looks of it. DX is cyberpunk, not Star Trek.

Now it would be interesting to go back into time, or better, we get a lateral game within the same timeline. Can fit DX3 within the DX1 universe very easily by making it a missing segment. Only problem is, the history of devs is "creative license", which means the objects we feel comfortable from DX1 with, will all be changed in DX3. ATMs won't look the same (the graphic style, not the 3D models), nor the terminals, let alone the cities. Somehow, if the worlds would merge some (like the Hell's Kitchen area), blending the look of old and knew, the worlds can seque and is buyable to older DX fans.

Put something of the old inside the new game, just update the models with more polys, but keep the general appearance. Then the DX3 can expand on the old, and make fans feel that DX3 isn't so foreign.

Whatever is needed, is a proper introduction between the two games - blend, blend, blend (and please Lord, don't let them butcher JC and Paul's look!).

LancerMW
23rd Mar 2008, 14:47
why not Gary Savage? it could be about his uncovering of MJ-12 and the Illuminati and how he gets the info to Paul, i dont think the first game specified if he was modded or not, he could have been.

Gary_Savage
23rd Mar 2008, 14:59
why not Gary Savage? it could be about his uncovering of MJ-12 and the Illuminati and how he gets the info to Paul, i dont think the first game specified if he was modded or not, he could have been.

I like your idea. It hadn't occurred to me that a BP clone might work against BP, rather than assume power for himself. I like it that you are going with creating an alter-ego of Bob Page; reminiscent of the writing on DX1's CD cover: "Invent a compelling alter ego." Now, that is very Deus Exy.

It's funny, how I used to think of BP as the equivalent of the G-Man, from Half Life 1, especially after being able to see and hear him but not touch him at the Hong Kong Versalife Lab; if your idea is used, it will be as if (though, not quite) the G-Man had an "evil twin."

LancerMW
24th Mar 2008, 00:38
they could do a lot with the formation of his resistance group X-51 or whatever it was called