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Blade_hunter
28th Mar 2010, 18:18
This is a little contribution, that weapon wasn't suggested at all and even if it's not "new" I think this might have an interest in a Deus Ex game
1/ Pistol attachment that works like a rifle grenade in a non lethal way, Imagine what people can do with this basic concept applied to pistols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWEwT4KJvQs
2/ A strange weapon this time a portable water cannon, reminds me the ghost buster :P I didn't knew that was possible to make an efficient and portable one, but i think we can't shoot that much with a single charge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU6FXIjAvHM
3/ A flashball I posted one picture before but this time I have a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HILWjDNb0

Decay
28th Mar 2010, 20:37
Have you guys seen Equilibrium with Sean Bean and Christian Bale? What do you think about weapons from that movie?

Blade_hunter
28th Mar 2010, 21:00
It wasn't a sort of "Matrixy" like movie where Christian Bale made choreographic fightings with dual full auto modified Berettas ?

Blade_hunter
28th Mar 2010, 21:23
LOL except the berettas and the flamethrowers all the weapons used in the film were real weapons
I found this wiki page for the weapons used in the movie
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Equilibrium
And to me the flamethrowers looked pretty much "crappy" to me; that hopefully they weren't much scenes with them if I remember ...
Yeah the movie is a bit exaggerated to me as well :D

Irate_Iguana
28th Mar 2010, 21:33
LOL except the berettas and the flamethrowers all the weapons used in the film were real weapons

Actually the Berettas could be made relatively easily. They aren't a production model but apart from a barrel weight and a full auto sear they are standard 92FS's. There was actually a company that made the barrel weight you would need.

The use of a WA2000 as a shotgun was stupid. You don't use one of the rarest long range rifles as a shotgun. If they wanted to have a futuristic looking shotgun they could have used a Pancor Jackhammer.

Decay
29th Mar 2010, 13:34
Nice page, lots of info there. Anyway, I think that Equilibrium is pretty similar to first Deus Ex, imo could be even more... If Warren ever makes second part of Deus Ex, I wish it was Equilibrium like game. With the exception of to powerful clerics of course. What do you think?

Blade_hunter
4th Apr 2010, 21:21
I want to show some 40 mm technology not the fact there is new things, but this mostly prove my thoughts about the grenade launcher weapons since those weapons fits perfectly for police and military and of course have the widest asset of ammunition.
There is lethal, less than lethal and tools but the video shows some things and even the fact that there is airbursting 40 mm grenades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obqctkoUG4I
Those grenades of course requires launchers that' have a computerized sight to work
And an FN 303 video I just showed the pic before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nPJ6BIOdSk&feature=related
This one is an FN weaponry video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb42GlfjILQ&feature=related
They are all commercials but hey I think they show something interesting.

I just think the next Grenade launcher = Shotgun, the only differences are the caliber, but often we find high similarities

Door breaching tools and weapons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_breaching
Breaching shotguns
http://www.att-tactical.com/att_breaching_shotgun.html
http://www.att-tactical.com/att_breach_ammo.html
It seems that we need to put a special muzzle brake on the shoguns to make them working efficiently as well as the specific ammo, doors can be opened with classic shells but it requires more ammo or slugs, but it will go through the door
Try to look around the site, there is interesting things to watch.
Abd some wiki links about shotguns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_shotgun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_shotgun#Entry_and_breaching_shotguns

Blade_hunter
5th Apr 2010, 23:57
I just want to add a few links about less than lethal stuff, some of them are comercial (from societies that sells those weapons and ammo of that kind)

http://www.pepperball.com/law/products.html#launchers

An other less than lethal launcher, the arwen 37, looks like a lot like the Milkor MGL
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8734/arwen37big.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARWEN_37
Ammo that the weapon can use
http://192.139.188.71/index.asp?id1=74

An other link for stuff
http://www.capeoutdoorsports.co.za/old/products/pepperball.htm
http://www.vastacademy.com.au/vsp_cat/3/2 (Browse those links there is a lot to see

Taser triple shot
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CwJpUiT_HOI/Sm6pOvjgNFI/AAAAAAAAB88/C6bo0OODLi8/s400/taserX3.JPG
the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7uTLLF34_g

The stinger stun gun (that's not Taser)
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Art/BUSINESS/050420/StunGun_430.gif
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8999/stingerstungun.jpg
http://defense-update.com/products/s/stinger-stun.htm
This weapon was featured in SWAT 4 the Stetchkov syndicate

A russian website with that talk about stun guns (I understand quite nothing by the way but google translator can help here
http://stun-wire-shot-technology.narod.ru/history.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstun-wire-shot-technology.narod.ru%2Fhistory.html&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
Their vids
http://stun-wire-shot-technology.narod.ru/RD.html
You can see here the multishot stun gun I posted sometimes ago a vid with this one
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1429/pulldownguns5.jpg

A Deus Ex style pepper gun
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4029/sw24pglargeimage.jpg

And my last less than lethal weapon of the post
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1764/dz106stungun.jpg
A flashlight with a built-in stungun :D

Exian
6th Apr 2010, 09:58
I got a good tactical wep in mind ;)

http://www.morgan.k12.il.us/jvsd117/herget/osage-twig.jpg

Blade_hunter
6th Apr 2010, 13:20
I see you want a lethal weapon, I got one mouhouhahahahahaha !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUpZtul08NY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQcQcQZSj0

http://www.fjr2.be/Wapens%20-%20Einstossflammenwerfer%2046%20%20-%202.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/536/ROKS-2.JPG
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2429/m2flamethrowervwm02.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6558/800pxluftfaust.jpg

auric
28th Apr 2010, 11:14
I just recently played "Alone in The Dark 5"

& it was very creative kind of game in terms of how u can do things with a single thing.

but what really caught my attention that's relevant to DX:HR are botols & a lighter, which is what's "shown" in the trailer :D. to be used in many creative ways. Most importantly burning down wooden doors.

Not sure how realistic the fire will be in DX now, but I wonder if there's fire alarm, like someone mentioned before can also use the extinguishers for better use.
:)

Blade_hunter
29th Apr 2010, 01:00
My creative way of using a lighter is to use an aerosol with it and burn people all the way !
I would like to take pipes to smash people with, Use a metal crate with a remote explosive as a remote projectile to play bowling with enemies, blow up metal doors when enemies passes nearby, Use a gasoline can to make flasks around doors and be ready to use a dragon breath shotshell to ignite the flask, grab an electric cable, plug it in a remote outlet with a nearby switch, put some water in a corridor go to the room to alert the enemies, go back and wait nearby the switch, and when the enemies will go in the corridor, put on the switch to kill them.
Using a cigarette pack to hide a bomb and throw it, when the guard will take it, I use the remote.
now with cigarettes i will put explosives on them, when the guards will smoke, boom
using sodas and bottles, I will just put some traquilizers, poison or even laxatives, in the latest case I will set up a LAM in the bathroom :lmao:

Hertzila
29th Apr 2010, 19:24
My creative way of using a lighter is to use an aerosol with it and burn people all the way !
I would like to take pipes to smash people with, Use a metal crate with a remote explosive as a remote projectile to play bowling with enemies, blow up metal doors when enemies passes nearby, Use a gasoline can to make flasks around doors and be ready to use a dragon breath shotshell to ignite the flask, grab an electric cable, plug it in a remote outlet with a nearby switch, put some water in a corridor go to the room to alert the enemies, go back and wait nearby the switch, and when the enemies will go in the corridor, put on the switch to kill them.
Using a cigarette pack to hide a bomb and throw it, when the guard will take it, I use the remote.
now with cigarettes i will put explosives on them, when the guards will smoke, boom
using sodas and bottles, I will just put some traquilizers, poison or even laxatives, in the latest case I will set up a LAM in the bathroom :lmao:

If I ever need to do an assasination disguised as an accident or just prank somebody greatly, I'll call you Blade hunter.

Blade_hunter
30th Apr 2010, 17:47
Just for the stupid pranks then :D
I think the weaponry should be usable like in any first person shooter and unlike any first person shooter.
I think people should have choices and more Deus Ex is rich in interactions, more the game and even sequences will be replayable again and over again.
And this one isn't made by artificial methods, just the fact you can try new possibilities