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Crashxxx
26th May 2007, 16:23
Her arms reflect in the pool below, but not the waterfall (different water types?) , but I'm 100 ft up (fourth screen shot). These are jpgs from FRAPS

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1856/tra2007052610574894vb0.jpg

--Notice the wavy arm reflections

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7750/tra2007052610581020ml6.jpg

--No reflections on waterfall

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/79/tra2007052611035495jj2.jpg

--Legs reflect, head does not.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1780/tra2007052610581559zq2.jpg

--"DO IT" "DO IT"

Specs are this:
eVGA 680i board
C2D 2.4 GHz(stock)
eVGA 8800 GTX (Superclocked) (158.42 Drivers)
2x1 GB sticks Corsair 8500C5 (800 MHZ, 4-4-4-12 1T)
Creative Xi-Fi Fatality
Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Need better screen shots I know. Will work on it. Any futher info needed, please let me know.

EDIT - And if anyone knows where to find the third cog, that would be helpful...

Leak
26th May 2007, 16:38
Her arms reflect in the pool below, but not the waterfall (different water types?) , but I'm 100 ft up (fourth screen shot).
Happened on my ATI Radeon X1900 XT as well, so I doubt it's a Geforce-related bug.

I guess they draw the scene completely then add the water refraction with a shader later - and that shader takes whatever pixels it finds at some location around the pixel it's currently working on.

As long as the camera is out of the water they'd have to draw the underwater scenery first, then add the water and refraction on top then draw the rest - doable, but of course that would also be more work for your graphics card.

np: Von Südenfed - Family Feud (Tromatic Reflexxions)

demolition09
26th May 2007, 16:52
It's a problem with the way this effect is rendered. It happens in other games that utilize a similar effect too. You can turn off water effects in the display menu to stop this, but that of course means anything below water won't be wavey too, so you must make the choice of which bothers you more, having that problem or not having the effect below water.

Crashxxx
26th May 2007, 17:00
No bothers, just thought what the? when I saw it. LMAO

demolition09
26th May 2007, 17:13
Yeah it is rather weird, especially when you stop moving to take a look at it. I also noticed if I turned water effects off I couldn't see below the rapids above the waterfall as well :nut:

Wess~Gamer
27th May 2007, 15:05
Look:

http://i16.tinypic.com/62gf02x.jpg
here you can see it..

http://i16.tinypic.com/5x5kp47.jpg
here only the legs..

http://i8.tinypic.com/4unehyh.jpg
even here a little bit..

http://i17.tinypic.com/63hg394.jpg
But not in this river..

http://i8.tinypic.com/4pb8mcp.jpg
and even not in Legend (Ghana)
Sorry if it isn't very useful, obvious..

I think it only works with calm water, or something :)

Liyah
28th May 2007, 14:07
wow.. that is such a great sense of details... i really can't see it in the first pics... or am i getting blind... my eyes won't process it! omg!:eek:

Atheist
28th May 2007, 14:11
Nitpick, or what? :rolleyes:

Crashxxx
29th May 2007, 23:03
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2897/tra2007052610574894dx9.jpg


This is a better screen, not that anyone cares...

Couldn't resist, anyone who says these graphics aren't next-gen, please explain, I would like to hear some valid points.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9631/tra2007052610581020sy9.jpg

CommanderZx2
30th May 2007, 01:46
Hehe, yeah the water bug is kinda funny. You can see it much more clearly if you stand near the water.

Bullbreaker
30th May 2007, 18:22
It is kind of annoying though isn't it? The rest of the game looks so beautiful it's a shame it's spoilt (albeit in a very minor way) by this effect.

Are you telling me that this can't be overcome in this day and age?

Grieyls
30th May 2007, 19:03
Ever tried to see your own reflection in a water fall? You won't cause the water droplets are too numerous and too small to notice. The reflection is there but you would have to zoom in to each droplet of water to see it. The same goes for water that is moving rapidly as in... well, rapids. The water is so churned up that the same effect is evident, although in this case the amount of bubbles is the main cause. Therefore the fact the Lara's reflection is not evident in the fast moving water or the waterfall in the game does hold up. Thus it is not a glitch but following true with what the real world is like.

In short, you people need to get out more :p

CommanderZx2
30th May 2007, 20:00
Ever tried to see your own reflection in a water fall? You won't cause the water droplets are too numerous and too small to notice. The reflection is there but you would have to zoom in to each droplet of water to see it. The same goes for water that is moving rapidly as in... well, rapids. The water is so churned up that the same effect is evident, although in this case the amount of bubbles is the main cause. Therefore the fact the Lara's reflection is not evident in the fast moving water or the waterfall in the game does hold up. Thus it is not a glitch but following true with what the real world is like.

In short, you people need to get out more :p
The bug we're refering to is her appearing all wavy when you look at her with water behind her:
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/7793/bug1vv8.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7119/bug1azt4.jpg
Look at the edges around her in these screenshots.

Grieyls
30th May 2007, 20:03
Ah, my bad then, Guess I read that all wrong. Many appologies ;)

shaq
30th May 2007, 20:29
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6680/tra2007052700092560ez2.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1788/tra2007053018530050rs9.jpg

shaq
30th May 2007, 20:34
http://i8.tinypic.com/4pb8mcp.jpg

turn on the anti-aliasing x6... and next-gen... means all to on... and send us the screen shot... e.g. in 1024 x 768 :thumbsup:

demon-slayer
2nd Jun 2007, 19:45
Her arms reflect in the pool below, but not the waterfall (different water types?) , but I'm 100 ft up (fourth screen shot). These are jpgs from FRAPS

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1856/tra2007052610574894vb0.jpg

--Notice the wavy arm reflections

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7750/tra2007052610581020ml6.jpg

--No reflections on waterfall

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/79/tra2007052611035495jj2.jpg

--Legs reflect, head does not.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1780/tra2007052610581559zq2.jpg

--"DO IT" "DO IT"

Specs are this:
eVGA 680i board
C2D 2.4 GHz(stock)
eVGA 8800 GTX (Superclocked) (158.42 Drivers)
2x1 GB sticks Corsair 8500C5 (800 MHZ, 4-4-4-12 1T)
Creative Xi-Fi Fatality
Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Need better screen shots I know. Will work on it. Any futher info needed, please let me know.

EDIT - And if anyone knows where to find the third cog, that would be helpful...

you get the third cog after you kill the t-rex

shaq
2nd Jun 2007, 20:12
you get the third cog after you kill the t-rex

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

MrE26
4th Jun 2007, 19:44
This happens with my Geforce 6800 as well and... it's also present on the PS2 version, albeit less noticabley due to the reduced resolution.