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ssone
7th Feb 2006, 05:38
for anyone who spent money on this game. I lucked out and used a gift card, which I promptly got my "money" back after returning the game. I'm sorry that the majority of you paid for a game which doesn't allow you to play online as advertised. If you can get on and play fine w/o FREQUENT disconnects and no cheating, this doesn't apply to you.

I'm not bashing this game, but the genius bunch who were involved in the making of it. Who's bright idea was it to create a game; which allows blatant cheating with the use of a third party device (did we just enter the year 2000?), never bothered adding a Vote on/off option to kick players who might be disrupting the game for others, and finally doesn't let almost half if not 70% of the fanbase be able to actually connect and join a room?

We've waited weeks for any response as to what's going on. All we've been given is after week one, their so called specialist claiming its our routers and not their fault. After being proven wrong, he comes back a few weeks later telling us their "looking into it", flash foward a few more weeks and their update on the situation is "We're looking into the cheating and connection issues".

Yea I'm sure you are, more along the lines of "We've got your money, we're not obligated to do anything else, enjoy this pos we call a game, lol!"

It's a shame a game such as this falls into the wrong hands, Socom would be an immensly more enjoyable game if Zipper wasn't the brainchild behind it. I was hoping for it to not be the case for Avalanche, but way to prove me wrong dudes :thumbsup:

Yea this will most likely be locked, but whatever. :)

viZZiOn
7th Feb 2006, 07:30
.......yeah, exactly what he said

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 16:32
How hard to make a patch and realese it ?? huh??? You guys dont have to fix all the bugs in one time PATCH THE Damn CHEATING ISSUE FIRST!!1 If you go ahead and take a lok at the front page at stats.25tolife.com you will see the player n2rs went down pretty much its now 90 people are playing.

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 16:50
It is VERY hard to make a patch a few weeks after the game has been released. The first thing they did was try and fix the servers. Now you can see that they do have a service maintenance team on a specific schedule working on it. Yelling about it won't make anyone listen.

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 17:19
It is VERY hard to make a patch a few weeks after the game has been released. The first thing they did was try and fix the servers. Now you can see that they do have a service maintenance team on a specific schedule working on it. Yelling about it won't make anyone listen.


marker am glad your contributing someting.. am A software engineer and I kinda know what am talking about it.. you can suck up all you want but the fact is, it isnt really that big problem to make one single patch, seconthly you do not reales a game with major bugs such as unlimited health - fly cheats and so not to mention connection issues, this game has potential and it could be shame if got wasted coz of a few wanker.. As a matter of fact this game should have been tested many times on and offline before even got considered being out there.. you cab be pation all you want I have and i dont wanna be anymore, just wait aint the answer we all waiting for. So i sugges someone does something more than make us wiat with no facts.!!


PS: dont make comment on spellings or setnings.. not that important for this matter, really.

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 17:27
The game is out and thats that. I know game shouldn't normally be released if they have major bugs in it. That's unfortunate. I just see that a lot of people are impatient (not aiming this at you) and it gets annoying. As an engineer I bet you already know this heh :).

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 17:41
The game is out and thats that. I know game shouldn't normally be released if they have major bugs in it. That's unfortunate. I just see that a lot of people are impatient (not aiming this at you) and it gets annoying. As an engineer I bet you already know this heh :).


You cheat?? no?? how can you be patient? eh? Idont I cant..

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 17:42
Everyone can be patient. Just remember, its just a game. It doesn't need to control our lives. Even if you can't be patient, you have to because there is no way for you to make things happen faster.

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 18:00
Everyone can be patient. Just remember, its just a game. It doesn't need to control our lives. Even if you can't be patient, you have to because there is no way for you to make things happen faster.


you sound like a cheater to me :-) You dont want patch to be relased... soon or later it will.

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 18:07
I never said I did not want a patch released, nor do I intend to cheat. Your accusations are not correct. If I was trying to exploit such a game, I would not be on their company forums ;). I am giving you straight up facts because it will help others realize what a company has to do to put a patch out, therefore people won't yell and complain about it.

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 18:20
I never said I did not want a patch released, nor do I intend to cheat. Your accusations are not correct. If I was trying to exploit such a game, I would not be on their company forums ;). I am giving you straight up facts because it will help others realize what a company has to do to put a patch out, therefore people won't yell and complain about it.


My friend we are consumers and this is a major BUG. Get that. I have right to complain after all I payed and purchased the game, It's my right to ask for patch as for anyone else who feels the same way. Official statement from DEV or whatever should be around soon. All the cheats out there has been emailed to DEVs and they are being detected by whoever uses them, If you dont cheat it's good for you otherwise ranks and everything will be gone. No one yelling but frustration. Yeah we got it you can wait somehow is little fishy.. Cheating is for losers.

If they dont come with patch within a week or 2... to bad.. Imagin when everyone gets the cheats who plays this game... just like CS. It happen will happen :-)

Peace.

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 18:29
I have right to complain after all I payed and purchased the game, It's my right to ask for patch as for anyone else who feels the same way. Yeah we got it you can wait somehow is little fishy.. Cheating is for losers.

Peace.


You are entitled to complain and express your feelings. Some people choose to do that by making a new thread about the samething and complaining in it. I've seen it many times and the mods don't like it (not directing this to you). Others do it because they want to make sure Eidos and the DEV is aware of the problem (not like bolding your text and jumping the size up to 20 ever does that heh).


Me saying that I can wait may look fishy, but I really don't have a problem with waiting. I am mostly bothered by the excessive complaints on here (which goes back to the saying of people making new threads about the samething). I hardly play the game online and when I do I don't encounter cheaters.

When I tell people to be patient, it has nothing to do with not wanting a patch to come sooner. The meaning of my posts are to tell people to just wait because not being patient won't help the problem :).

Later man.

ssone
7th Feb 2006, 20:42
Lets sit around on your thumbs and do nothing, sound good? many people purchased the agme and can't even play the damn thing, why shouldn't they be pissed?

It's been ONE month, no news at all other then "They're looking into it". Am I hoping to get something accomplished by posting this? No. Am I venting because more and more video game companies are just walking over people because the majority keep false hope alive? Yes.

You can choose to sit around and wait for that magical update which will fix nearly nothing, fact is they just duped thousands of customers into buying a faulty product.

Me saying that I can wait may look fishy, but I really don't have a problem with waiting. I am mostly bothered by the excessive complaints on here (which goes back to the saying of people making new threads about the samething). I hardly play the game online and when I do I don't encounter cheaters.

Gee what a suprise.

Snake1
7th Feb 2006, 21:47
I hardly play the game online and when I do I don't encounter cheaters.



lmao where do you play this game?? which server that you dont encounter cheaters when you play?? what planet?? get a life and stop lying dude, your a cheater whos afraid the patch will ruin your fun, well, I've got news for ya pal... patch is coming and we will keep shouting till they do someting about it. So I suggest you stop writing back with your none sence BS!!!!!

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 22:29
Hey, theres no need for that. What makes me a cheater? It seems like everyone is accusing forum members that they cheat. First of all, I respect the rules. This is why I am a Jr. Police Officer in my town and soon to be a Jr. Volunteer Fireman. Second of all, I play the Xbox. Third of all, there is no reason to believe that I cheat. Your misunderstanding the points I was making. You also don't even know who I am to make those kinds of assumptions.

I was not saying that I did not want a patch to come out. I only played at least 3 times then went on to a new game I recently bought (Splinter Cell). If you searched some of my old posts, you would of seen that I think the game is an "ok game". You would of also noticed that I have been here for a long time and have been helping people out when they want info. This wouldn't be true if I was really a cheater. Loosers don't help people.

If you took the time to re-read my posts (even this one) you would understand that I was talking about something completely different from what you are thinking.


How about I accuse you of cheating because you do it to others? Maybe you say that everyone is a cheater with the slightest hint of it because you know you do something that we don't know about. How would that make you feel? I know I wouldn't like it. So please don't do it to me. Many people on this forum know I wouldn't do that. Though you are too focused on accusing me of cheating you probably wouldn't believe them anyway.


A post from another thread that shows Snake1 accuses other people

Snake1 ill give you an advise . stop call them cheaters . if you go in top 10 and if you kill 7 ppls wiout dying you will get acused . stop defending they think your a friend of mine . but ya all legits ppls is my friend .

stop playing for now make alternate acount and still play for fun intil patch come out , anyway they will restart stats then you will be able to do it again.

Thread Link: http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=56406

I'll say this again, I am just a member helping out on this forum by posting just like you. There is no visual proof of me for you to believe I am cheating except that you have misunderstood my posts. If you and another member want to accuse me of such a thing, go ahead. I am not going to stop you from speaking in terms of freedom of speech. I just want to say that I do not like being falsely accused.

By the way, I was never accusing you of anything in my posts.

My point is... This is just all a big mistake.


Thank you.

eCkz92
7th Feb 2006, 23:47
:confused: Ok... how the hell is marker cheating :confused: i dont get how just because he doesnt like complaining makes him a cheater... he never said that the patch was a bad idea all he said was that Complaining about it on a forum is useless... i m still really confused... is there something im missing ? Tell me... and everyone else for that matter y u think Marker is a cheater :cool:

Angel_
7th Feb 2006, 23:54
marker heh ??? i never says your cheating wtf ??? , i dint even talked to you dude take a chill pill , and read again my post. i know your helping ppl and i feel good to see it. bah dude i dont understand you.

marker227
7th Feb 2006, 23:55
Oh, sorry about that not being so clear. I was pointing out something you said about about Snake1 accusing people of cheating.

Lets just get back on topic. Shall we?

Snake1
8th Feb 2006, 07:40
Oh, sorry about that not being so clear. I was pointing out something you said about about Snake1 accusing people of cheating.

Lets just get back on topic. Shall we?


dude don't quote my post wrong I dont accuse poeple of cheating, If you read the thoes posts you will see its called PC chetaer list someone else started and the most comment known people who cheats online listed and I added a few. I can see most poeple are agree.. I never played with you so i dont know If you cheat or not but still its weird that you can wait and youhave no problem waiting the patch and you dont encounter andy cheaters when you play " with your won post you said that CLEARLY! lol get reall kido.

marker227
8th Feb 2006, 20:57
Ok that makes me feel better. I guess I took that too seriously? Oh well. Anyway, when I said I can be patient it was coming from experience. I might not always be the most patient person around, but I was brought up to be one. My experience was that getting all excited about something can't really make what you want happen sooner (its hard when your excited I know! lol). Sorry about the confusion. I also took that quote from another thread because I thought you were one of those kinds of people who like to go around blowing whistles on everyone :p. That proved me wrong. Glad we got this all straightened out.

ssone
9th Feb 2006, 01:35
I don't even know how you people came up with the conclusion someone cheats because they're saying to be patient. But uhh, lets get back to saying mean things about Avalanche/Eidos, mmk?

Snake1
9th Feb 2006, 19:07
I don't even know how you people came up with the conclusion someone cheats because they're saying to be patient. But uhh, lets get back to saying mean things about Avalanche/Eidos, mmk?


ok lets not go there, no one said about anyone cheats coz they sayin be patient, try the read between the lines. this subject is closed no need to open up igen.

ssone
9th Feb 2006, 19:42
lmao where do you play this game?? which server that you dont encounter cheaters when you play?? what planet?? get a life and stop lying dude, your a cheater whos afraid the patch will ruin your fun, well, I've got news for ya pal... patch is coming and we will keep shouting till they do someting about it. So I suggest you stop writing back with your none sence BS!!!!!

I take it you have trouble remembering what you type? I didn't open up this topic igen it was a few topics down, mmk?

Angel_
9th Feb 2006, 19:46
you guys dont like cheaters ???

Alright , download mirc , come to gamesurge server and channel #25-tolife you will be able to find legits player to play againts and make private game and post pw to player who you want to play + every

top 10 players get operator..

top 5 clan get operator..

rank 11-20 get voice..

if you want fast help for anytype of problem just come and ask to other players. that channel will be usefull later for clan match ..

Snake1
9th Feb 2006, 20:27
lmao where do you play this game?? which server that you dont encounter cheaters when you play?? what planet?? get a life and stop lying dude, your a cheater whos afraid the patch will ruin your fun, well, I've got news for ya pal... patch is coming and we will keep shouting till they do someting about it. So I suggest you stop writing back with your none sence BS!!!!!

I take it you have trouble remembering what you type? I didn't open up this topic igen it was a few topics down, mmk?


that is reply to a guy who wrote that, he was saying he don't encounter any cheaters when he was playin, anyone who says they dont encounter cheaters are rather cheating or CHEATIng

ssone
10th Feb 2006, 02:54
It took me about 5 minutes trying to dechiper what the hell you just typed. Either stop mashing on the keyboard with your head or at the least run it through a spell check, good grief.

that is reply to a guy who wrote that, he was saying he don't encounter any cheaters when he was playin,

You quoted Marker, same person I was talking about you moron.

anyone who says they dont encounter cheaters are rather cheating or CHEATIng, so get lost !

It's the same thing you dolt, please please refrain calling anyone (yes even your dog) a retard ever again.

Snake1
10th Feb 2006, 13:40
It took me about 5 minutes trying to dechiper what the hell you just typed. Either stop mashing on the keyboard with your head or at the least run it through a spell check, good grief.

that is reply to a guy who wrote that, he was saying he don't encounter any cheaters when he was playin,

You quoted Marker, same person I was talking about you moron.

anyone who says they dont encounter cheaters are rather cheating or CHEATIng, so get lost !

It's the same thing you dolt, please please refrain calling anyone (yes even your dog) a retard ever again.



Dont quote noting till you realy read everything u dumbzhit, yes you. If you donno whats going on you shouldnt even write back, sorry if you cant read.. but If ur one of thoes nerds who needs everything spelled correctly than your wasting ur time, look at the name of the game retard, 25 to life thats the name of the game ,means we go ebonics, your in the wrong place nerdboy.

I can see you aint smart enaugh to figure whats goin on. To make it more clear for you you lil 10 years old ****, here it is.

He was saying he didnt have nor seen any cheaters when he was playing online, so, there is not a single person who hasnt encounter that problem. I was saying, if you dont- means you cheat, simple

Irreverence
10th Feb 2006, 14:35
This thread is hysterical. :D