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Vesper
5th Apr 2004, 07:47
Gonna be getting XP Home soon on a new puter. I'm totally ignorant as to what I need to protect me while I'm on the net with XP. I guess it is targeted more than other OSes.

I'm just use to using my Win98 on Dialup with only AVG and Adware to protect me, since I let my Norton AV udates expire. And I only run those a couple times a week and don't have them turned on all the time. I usually only pickup the typical Trojans and spyware and they are easy to get rid of with those programs, and they come mostly from "those" sites Hubby likes to visit ;) I never buy anything on the net with a credit card (if I can't get it with a M.O. I won't buy it), and I don't bank online so I don't worry about anyone hacking me and getting numbers. My local ISP Total Speed scans all my email for viruses before I even get it so not worried at all about getting a virus that way, and if I download some program off of the net I scan it before I run it.

I'll still be on Dial-up only. Will I need more protection? And what the heck is a firewall anyways, that I've been hearing about. Will just a good antivirus program running while I'm on the net work?
I've always been a big fan of Norton (ok ok I know lots of folks don't like Norton) but I've been using some version of Norton since the DOS/Win 3.1 days, and have never had any problems with it. So I will probablly get Norton's System Works 2003. Should I also get Norton's firewall stuff or is someone else's better?

Help!!! Not sure if I'm gonna like all this learning how to use XP stuff.

Vesper

theBlackman
5th Apr 2004, 14:59
A firewall is a security guard. It only lets in what you authorize. Think of it like a chainlink fence with a single gate at which a guard checks passes. No pass no entry.


http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html

http://www.trojanscan.com/

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

www.kerio.com

http://www.spywareinfo.com/

http://www.safer-networking.org/

http://www.free-av.com/

www.lavasoftUSA.com


Free spyware and online virus checkers, and the Kerio firewall is great.

Stile451
5th Apr 2004, 18:31
How does Kerio compare to ZoneAlarm? I'm sold on it but only if it works similarly to ZA for allowing program access(do you want to allow xxxx access to the local internet?).

Does it allow bandwidth throttling as well? The screenshot showed all processes accessing the net and the speed they're using. It just seems that it would with all that info.

theBlackman
5th Apr 2004, 18:46
I know nothing about Zone Alarm. But Kerio allows the user to specify access, comes with logs of all activities and numerous options I have not investigated.

I tell it to set its own perameters for trusted sites. You can set individual access/denials or tell it that site XYZ is trusted and tell it to set the necessary parameters for access.

It also warns you when something is attempting access, such as automatic updates, which you can permit or deny at your pleasure.

Stile451
6th Apr 2004, 02:41
I'm currently using Kerio Personal Firewall because ZoneAlarm decided to not allow network access for some reason.

It's similar to ZoneAlarm in how it handles program access.

It gives you more information, but aside from that the two programs are nearly the same in functionality(including the extras like ad filtering).

It'll take me a few days to get used to the interface even though much of it is somewhat similar to what I already know.

It doesn't look like you can throttle bandwidth at all let alone on a process by process basis. I wasn't expecting it to, but it would have been nice not to have to install another program to do it.

The main difference which makes it better than ZA is the fact that it allows you to see exactly how much bandwidth is being used by each process. This I very much like.

theBlackman
6th Apr 2004, 02:45
Salvage, I'm very happy with Kerio. It does everything I need and then some. Is simple even for an idiot to use, if you use the Help files, which actually help, and has kept me clean since I started using it.

And it's free, which is always nice. :D

Vesper
6th Apr 2004, 05:41
Hmmmm......simple enough for an idiot to use and FREE!!!
That sounds like my kinda program Blackie :D

When I get my new puter I'll give Kerio a try.

Am I supposed to run an antivirus program the same time the firewall is running? And should you be running an antispyware program at the same time too, and maybe a popup killer too? I'm getting sick and tired of all the popup crapola...... Is that to many programs to run at once while on the net? Do they conflict with each other running all at once. Will that crash the puter?

How does all this stuff running affect say if you want to play a multiplayer game online, or just surfing? Does it slow you down to a crawl? Esp. since I'm on Dialup.

Jeesh, think I'm starting to ask to many questions. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all those other links too.

theBlackman
6th Apr 2004, 15:25
Originally posted by Vesper
Hmmmm......simple enough for an idiot to use and FREE!!!
That sounds like my kinda program Blackie :D

When I get my new puter I'll give Kerio a try.

Am I supposed to run an antivirus program the same time the firewall is running? YES
And should you be running an antispyware program at the same time too, and maybe a popup killer too? YES
I'm getting sick and tired of all the popup crapola...... Is that to many programs to run at once while on the net? Do they conflict with each other running all at once. Will that crash the puter? NO

How does all this stuff running affect say if you want to play a multiplayer game online, or just surfing? Does it slow you down to a crawl? Esp. since I'm on Dialup. Usually NO. Uses minimal resources from RAM etc.

Jeesh, think I'm starting to ask to many questions. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all those other links too.