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jesse9036
4th Feb 2004, 23:18
why did mortanius and azimuth bring turel through time to th avernus catacombs?

TheWatcher
5th Feb 2004, 00:59
OK, I'll fess it up.

Primarily, to serve as the physical representation of Hash'ak'gik for the members of the blood god cult at Avernus.

My guess is when they found him, he had already devolved and they mistook him for a nasty demon (what they were looking for in the first place).

Protector_Malek
5th Feb 2004, 01:15
what does azimuth got to do with this?

jesse9036
5th Feb 2004, 01:31
well if you go to the lost worlds.com it said that mortanius and azimuth combine their power to bring forth turel to that time period.

Umah Bloodomen
5th Feb 2004, 03:13
Originally posted by jesse9036
well if you go to the lost worlds.com it said that mortanius and azimuth combine their power to bring forth turel to that time period.

You may wish to edit the URL you're advertising. Blincoln's site is thelostworlds.net (http://www.thelostworlds.net) not .com

Dogfight
5th Feb 2004, 04:34
Where at the site does it say this.


well if you go to the lost worlds.com it said that mortanius and azimuth combine their power to bring forth turel to that time period.

By the way.
Turel was brought to the past by the Hylden to serve as a vessel and afterwards was sacrificed to give Raziel a new enhanced version of the telekinesis ability to use in a fight against Kain.

jesse9036
5th Feb 2004, 18:19
It's in the defiance section under Q&A with Amy Henning

Umah Bloodomen
5th Feb 2004, 18:50
Just to clarify something; This is the actual quote:



This was left deliberately vague so that a future game could cover it if desired. The implication based on the story of Blood Omen is that the circle used their dimensional- and time-travelling powers to bring him to them. Amy says that casting him as Hash wasn't a recent decision, but was made shortly after he was cut from Soul Reaver.

Please note the keyword implication. Also, a follow-up question was brought up and responded to in the following manner:


Azimuth and Mortanius served the Hylden, who they knew as "Hash'ak'gik." They were seduced away from their service of the Pillars by the power they unearthed beneath Avernus. Moebius didn't serve Hash'ak'gik, though. He's always been a servant of the Elder God. The means of summoning Turel was left deliberately vague, so that a future game might be able to cover it.


Going back to the "Azimuth-implication" for a moment, from Blood Omen, we know that Azimuth was in possession of a Time-Streaming device. We also know that her role is that of a dimensional planer and that she summoned demons to Avernus. The evidence is pointing to her actual involvement in Turel's summoning to the Cathedral.

Dogfight
5th Feb 2004, 20:30
Thanks Umah, that clears things up more.

I already knew about Azimuth's possible involvement, but I got dazed when it was directly stated that the F.A.Q. said that Azimuth and Mortanius combined their powers to bring Turel to the past. The F.A.Q. doesn't say this or imply this.

In Blood Omen 1 Ariel says: "Well done, you have found Moebius' toy. Azimuth, not content with summoning demonic thralls, stole the Time Streaming Device in order to gather creatures from other ages as well." This could apply to Turel.

Umah Bloodomen
5th Feb 2004, 22:35
Originally posted by Dogfight
Thanks Umah, that clears things up more.


You're welcome, Dogfight. :) While Azimuth's role is heavily implied, it still has yet to actually be confirmed. Best to avoid any miscommunication and clarify speculation vs. gospel while we're ahead. ;)