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marlon4242
22nd Nov 2003, 06:07
reply and vote ;p

tirhascragoo
22nd Nov 2003, 06:53
ooo marlon....you got a radeonxt 9600??? i was just about to order one....what's the performance like on deus ex 2 and other games?

Elder
22nd Nov 2003, 06:55
As soon as theres a faster one then my 9800Xt !

marlon4242
22nd Nov 2003, 07:05
it works great looks nice, runs great, no problems running the game now, for the price get it it will last!

PointlesS
22nd Nov 2003, 07:19
nope...I got a radeon 9500 pro and it runs the game pretty good...

Gaming-Module
22nd Nov 2003, 08:38
Was going to, but not anymore.

I'll just save for an r4xx video card when HL2 and Doom 3 arrive.

FliX
22nd Nov 2003, 12:57
i wish i could put a newer GFX card in my NOTEBOOK but i cant...

GF4 420 go, i thought that should be enough :(

anyway i would get an Nvidia... :)

Igoe
25th Nov 2003, 07:50
Currently have a Geforce Ti4600, and it owned the game pretty well at 1280 by 1024, with 4 times multisampling and everything on high, and shadows on medium.

I may breakdown and get a Hercules 9800 Pro, because I may not be able to play HL2 and Doom3 as well as I'd like....but time will tell, and maybe christmas will drop the price....

sandman441
25th Nov 2003, 07:54
if there is a good buy on a better card after thanksgiving i might get one but right now i have a geforce4 ti4200 and it works fine for me.

NamelessOne
25th Nov 2003, 08:30
No, my 9700 Pro is still a great card.

If I was going to buy a new card I'd get an Ati.

Blackdog
25th Nov 2003, 14:26
I've been pondering the FX 5950, but I also want to see if nVidia releases anything new in January. I refuse to touch the crappiness that is ATI.

Wolfmage
25th Nov 2003, 14:41
Originally posted by Blackdog
I've been pondering the FX 5950, but I also want to see if nVidia releases anything new in January. I refuse to touch the crappiness that is ATI.

If you must got nvidia you'd be an utter fool not to wait until their next core change, which has full precision shader support ie. DX9.

ATI is the only way to go for running all current/past games with good FPS as well as running next gen engines well later. The FX is great for DX8/8.1 engines and below but it is inadequte for a lot of up-coming cutting edge engines with the chief exception of Doom 3 which isn't DX9 (it is Open GL game which uses low precision shaders, so it isn't effected.) S.T.A.L.K.E.R. might also use FX specific optimisations so that is good, but most everything else in the future will run better on the ATI DX9 cores.

Meteor_of_War
25th Nov 2003, 15:41
I have a 9800 Pro so i'm good to go.:)

Cadillacs57
25th Nov 2003, 17:02
im getting the gforce fx 5200, but not because of this game, because of profesional use.

sHaPe oF gReY
25th Nov 2003, 18:51
9800 Pro and happy with it... that is untill ifry it doing a VMod :D

RichDoggP
25th Nov 2003, 19:57
I had to ditch my Radeon 7500 too. But I got a Radeon 9600SE because it was cheap and my game crashes all the time. It doesn't give me the pixel shader error so I don't know what that is. I got the catalyst 3.9 drivers. I don't know what the problem could be, but at least I can now play Americas Army, because the 7500 is the one card in the world that they didn't support.

Geist
25th Nov 2003, 20:32
I will be getting the ATI 9600 Pro

It is the only one I can afford and justify for my own budget.

I just hope that it lasts longer than 1.5 years...but that might be asking much.

~Geist

Malverik
25th Nov 2003, 20:36
My answer would be: NO, because from the comments I have seen I am not going to spend money for a game unworthy of being called Deus Ex

Coyote
25th Nov 2003, 20:42
Anybody thinking the current generation of top line cards are gonna play Doom III really well needs to look here: http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030512/index.html

They are benchmarking the game with 9800Pro, notice at high resolution w/AA & AF there are pretty low frame rates in MEDIUM detail. Apparently it's not playable at high res w/AA & AF and high detail even with a 9800Pro or 5900 Ultra

Meteor_of_War
25th Nov 2003, 21:09
No one expects to be playing Doom3 with FSAA and AA when it's first released anyway. At 1024x768, medium detail and without FSAA it gets 68 fps w/ a 9800 Pro. That's good enough for me.

RobK
25th Nov 2003, 23:14
Where's my "I just bought my video card in the summer, I'm not upgrading already, I'll just ***** and moan till things go my way" option? :)

I really shouldn't be this clunky on a GF FX 5600, even if the game has been optimized for ATI cards. That's something you just don't do....optimize for a specific company fine, but don't leave the other cards out. Makes for a lot of unhappy campers.

scottws
26th Nov 2003, 01:04
I have a GeForce 3 and I expected it to run all games reasonably well until HL2 or DOOM III. Obviously that's not the case. The DX:IW demo is like Halo all over again. The game is choppy as sin even at low resolutions and at otherwise minimum settings.

I almost bought a R9800 Pro or R9800 XT today, but I decided to wait awhile longer so prices can fall some more.

Sindrel
26th Nov 2003, 01:22
I got a 9700 Pro last X-mas and its still going strong :)

Elder
26th Nov 2003, 01:30
Originally posted by scottws
I have a GeForce 3 and I expected it to run all games reasonably well until HL2 or DOOM III. Obviously that's not the case. The DX:IW demo is like Halo all over again. The game is choppy as sin even at low resolutions and at otherwise minimum settings.

I almost bought a R9800 Pro or R9800 XT today, but I decided to wait awhile longer so prices can fall some more.

scottws when you do go to a 9800pro/XT.....it will be like night and day...thats a huge upgrade going from a GF3 to a 9800....!

Brekfist
30th Nov 2003, 20:21
Well this is an ironic thread for me, since I've been sooooo looking forward to DX2 for so long now that I had already budgeted a new video card as part of my game "purchase price" for a very long while now. In fact I've been holding off on any video card purchase specifically for that reason.

And AND, despite the current second-fiddle status of the GeForce line, I was STILL gonna go with an nVidia simply because it seemed that DX2 was more "optimized" for them intstead of ATI (from what comments seem to be saying). That's how much I've been lusting for this *%&!! damn game.

Well, this thread is ironic because I just decided yesterday that all bets are off. Not only am I no longer buying DXIW (in fact I'm leaving the board here now...probably my last post or close to it), but I've also reversed my video card decision and am going with an ATI 9xxx something or other soon. Oh well. Sigh. Ion Storm's fall from grace in my eyes, in a shockingly disappointing few days, has not been pretty. :(

BearBoy
30th Nov 2003, 21:32
I picked the LOSERS! one, although my GF4 Ti4600 isn't that great, it does do well enough, and isn't bad enough to warrant a £400 9800XT. We'll see when HL2 comes.

bobk
1st Dec 2003, 06:39
Just got a 9800 Pro from Best Buy for $299. It will
probably be $199 in the spring, but winter is gaming
season here in the midwestern US, so I decided to
go for it. Plays DX2 demo really really nice at 800x600.
1024x768 is pretty darn good too.
Upgraded from a TI4200.

efortier
1st Dec 2003, 08:09
With DX2 in mind, but still generally speaking and regardless of the price, should I get an nVidia 5900 Ultra or a Radeon 9800 pro?

--Eric

FuriousNoob >:-(
2nd Dec 2003, 03:38
Everyone has their own preferences about the ATI/Nvidia debate. I had a GF4 ti4400 and didn't really have any major problems with it. Then i got my current card, a 9800 pro and i love it. I really enjoy following the video card race and i feel really comfortable with the choice i made. I am much more confident about the current Ati tech at handling future games that use a lot of PS. I'm sure it won't be long until Nvidia is back on top and for it to reverse again after that. I would say go with the 9800 pro over the 5900 fx.

Pooeypants
2nd Dec 2003, 16:16
Originally posted by RobK
Where's my "I just bought my video card in the summer, I'm not upgrading already, I'll just ***** and moan till things go my way" option? :)

I really shouldn't be this clunky on a GF FX 5600, even if the game has been optimized for ATI cards. That's something you just don't do....optimize for a specific company fine, but don't leave the other cards out. Makes for a lot of unhappy campers.
*rubs eyes*
erm, you know when you start the game you see a f**k off massive Nvidia - The way it's meant to be played logo? Where's the ATi one?

Pooeypants
2nd Dec 2003, 16:18
Originally posted by Blackdog
I've been pondering the FX 5950, but I also want to see if nVidia releases anything new in January. I refuse to touch the crappiness that is ATI.
*cough*detonatorCheats*cough*

:D

meeshka skwoz
2nd Dec 2003, 17:30
i have a (sapphire) radeon 9100 and i'm not even considering an new vid card until I'm running on a mobo that supports 8x APG. with any luck it won't be toooo long...maybe by then ATI will have released their next gen chips and they could put the 9800pro/xt chips in a really cheap card just for me.

I haven't been doing much research lately (not being in the market) and I'm obviously biased, but as budget cards go-in terms of price for performance, my 9100 eats MX for breakfast. yes I will have to prolly play DX2 at 640x480, but I WILL be able to play and i had to play DX1 at 640x or 800x on my 16mb voodoo3.2k [thank heavens for glide] for yonks. it was 2 years before i could play DX at 1600x1200 (not to mention q3a) on my current pc.

[rantingnow] this is what really bugs me about nvidia-geforce4MX!! WTF is the deal with that? anyone who doesn't do research before buying a card gets totally rammed in the you know where. I don't have a problem with nvidia retailing g/f2's with lots of new ram and 8x agp support as a budget minded alternative. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM LABELLING SAID CARDS AS GEFORCE 4'S!!!!! when they started doing that [was it back in g/f 3 land?], it pissed me off to no end. no geforce for me, no nforce either. screw nvidia.[endranting]

in closing-if you're in the market for an MX POS, get a 9100 instead-you won't be able to play DX2 on an MX. unless you can find a ti4200 for cheaper-they are about the same, performance wise (yes i just ranted about not being impressed with nvidia, but if someone can find a deal on a card that will work for them, who am i to say not to get it.)

Tassadar5000
3rd Dec 2003, 01:53
I'm buying a new card, but not for Deus Ex 2.
DX2 reminded me of another (MUCH better game) - Morrowind. So I'm going to upgrade to play it better.

bobk
3rd Dec 2003, 04:38
Originally posted by Tassadar5000
I'm buying a new card, but not for Deus Ex 2.
DX2 reminded me of another (MUCH better game) - Morrowind. So I'm going to upgrade to play it better.

Morrowind... now there is a buggy game.

Tassadar5000
3rd Dec 2003, 06:46
Originally posted by bobk
Morrowind... now there is a buggy game.

But the fun factor far surpasses the bug factor :)

nkmutant
4th Dec 2003, 03:33
Originally posted by Igoe
Currently have a Geforce Ti4600, and it owned the game pretty well at 1280 by 1024, with 4 times multisampling and everything on high, and shadows on medium.

I may breakdown and get a Hercules 9800 Pro, because I may not be able to play HL2 and Doom3 as well as I'd like....but time will tell, and maybe christmas will drop the price....

Exactly the same with me.