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Narcissus X
24th Apr 2003, 12:50
I know there has been a thread already for suggestions of a Startopia 2. While I would certainly be one of the first ones in line to buy it, I don't think it should be "sequelized" (- trademark pending) for fear of damaging its' good name.

I recently made an impulse purchase on a game called Atlantis Underwater Tycoon (it's a budget title), and while I found this idea for a game a fantastic concept, alas it is a budget title, ie: poorly implemented, very few options, very rough around the edges, no support, even the tutorial stops actually tutoring after about the 3rd tutorial.

Thoughts immediately came to Startopia, and I thought what if Mucky Foot had made this game!;)

The game could be very innovative, but it apparently was in the wrong hands.

(Vigorously rubbing the magic lamp) I wish, I wish, I wish that Mucky Foot would explore this concept for a game.

OK, I'm done thinking out loud.

Arctic_Wolf
24th Apr 2003, 14:36
:mad:

Arctic_Wolf
24th Apr 2003, 14:40
Seriously now, Mucky Foot is working on making Bullet Proof Monk into a game, before that they were doing Blade II and aswell as Bullet Proof Monk they have a number of secret projects.

P.S :mad:

Narcissus X
24th Apr 2003, 15:05
Originally posted by Arctic_Wolf
Seriously now, Mucky Foot is working on making Bullet Proof Monk into a game, before that they were doing Blade II and aswell as Bullet Proof Monk they have a number of secret projects.

P.S :mad:

BULLETPROOF MONK!?!? WTF

BLADE II!?!?!?

Consoles.......bah.

Mucky Foot, you can always come back home.

MunkeeChum
24th Apr 2003, 15:11
Bulletproof Monk is coming out for PC methinks...

kool_kats_rule
24th Apr 2003, 16:59
Originally posted by Narcissus X
BULLETPROOF MONK!?!? WTF

BLADE II!?!?!?

Consoles.......bah.

Mucky Foot, you can always come back home.

Games of films.

Arraxis
25th Apr 2003, 00:37
Personnally, I think games based on films and vice-versa are doomed to fail, because they have limits. That's why I prefer games that are original, or sequels of originals.

Master_Ryan
25th Apr 2003, 02:41
BAD Narcissus X!
You have defiled these grounds by speaking of the sequal-that-must-not-be-named

someone get the pointy thing!

Narcissus X
25th Apr 2003, 20:33
Originally posted by Master_Ryan
BAD Narcissus X!
You have defiled these grounds by speaking of the sequal-that-must-not-be-named

someone get the pointy thing!


Oops :eek: I didn't know, really I didn't.;)

Exitium
26th Apr 2003, 02:59
Ahem!

Long ago, in a far away forum,
There was ideas for a sequel to be'
There was an art contest held in place,
For the best to be the new alien race,
But then one day, when sales failed Foot,
Eidos said "No sequel" to be.

Now ends my tail,
With no rhyming,
And please don't ever mention,
About StarTopia II.
La, la, la, la, la...

Narcissus X
26th Apr 2003, 13:38
Originally posted by Exitium
Ahem!

Long ago, in a far away forum,
There was ideas for a sequel to be'
There was an art contest held in place,
For the best to be the new alien race,
But then one day, when sales failed Foot,
Eidos said "No sequel" to be.

Now ends my tail,
With no rhyming,
And please don't ever mention,
About StarTopia II.
La, la, la, la, la...

And yet games like Mall Tycoon 2 are being made!! What an injustice!

Oh well, Mucky Foot could always go with that Underwater world idea.

Master_Ryan
26th Apr 2003, 16:38
It is indeed a grave injustice to behold the world that bore startopia, but not startopia 2. we can always hope, set things on fire, protest in front of edios, set things on fire, send emails to eidos, set things on fire, and make an unholy number of startopia websites on tripod and any other free hosting place, and live in front of a computer (Which i did looong before startopia, which bettered my condition). oh and did i mention that we can set things on fire?

kool_kats_rule
27th Apr 2003, 10:21
:rolleyes:

Hand-E-Food
27th Apr 2003, 22:53
Originally posted by Narcissus X
And yet games like Mall Tycoon 2 are being made!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
<thump>

MunkeeChum
27th Apr 2003, 23:10
I hate the public...

Narcissus X
28th Apr 2003, 00:35
Originally posted by Hand-E-Food
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
<thump>

Not only that but add Airport Tycoon 2 to that.

Hand-E-Food
28th Apr 2003, 02:10
Haven't tried that one yet...

I must admit that I was impressed by Casino Inc. though. I thought the underworld aspect and the differences of social classes was done very well. I think I'll get that one when it goes budget.

kool_kats_rule
28th Apr 2003, 17:02
I must live somewhere very upmarket, or downmarket, because none of thes titles ever dare to show they're little faces round here. Good fo them...

Hand-E-Food
28th Apr 2003, 22:33
They often come out under different names in different countries. In Australia, Gadget Tycoon, Crazy Factory, and Factory Tycoon (I think that last one is wrong) are all exactly the same, crappy game. Even the box artwork is the same. Sim Coaster was Theme Park World here as well. I don't know what the deal is exactly, why centain titles can't be used. Perhaps someone already bought the TradeMark to that name.

Misterymon
1st May 2003, 02:16
umm.... I like to light things on fire....

Arctic_Wolf
2nd May 2003, 22:08
Pizza Tycoon, Pizza Sydicate, Pizza Connection, Pizza Connection 2. All the same crappy german crap. :mad:

I've come to notice a certain trend in games.

American: Filled with propeganda
British: Mostly good, most innovative, don't do well at market(except GTA3 & Black and White)
German: Crap
Japan: Action packed but you have no idea of what anyone said
Anywere else: Don't make much of an appearence...anywere

There are exceptions but arn't their always.

Hand-E-Food
3rd May 2003, 05:51
American games... true.

British games... true.

Germany do not make crap games. Almost everything I've seen out of there (which is, admittidly, not much), is brilliant. Septerra Core, Divine Divinity (although buggy), Project Nomads, The Last Eichoff... All great games, all poorly underexposed.

Japanese games... true. Japan relies more on Arcade games then on planning and fore-thought games.

Games from elsewhere... you get the odd gem made by a 30 year old kid in his Mum's basement.

Arctic_Wolf
3rd May 2003, 13:05
Like I said there are exceptions. But the likes of that Pizza scam are all too common.

There are deep japenese games, there are American games that don't throw propeganda at you, there are british games that are a total rubbish pile, there are some good german games. These are exceptions to the rule, there are always exceptions to the rules, that's why i said;


Originaly posted by Arctic_Wolf
There are exceptions, but aren't there always.

Master_Ryan
3rd May 2003, 14:55
Originally posted by Misterymon
umm.... I like to light things on fire....

then go out and burn! for startopia 2!


Originally posted by Hand-E-Food
Games from elsewhere... you get the odd gem made by a 30 year old kid in his Mum's basement.

HEY! I AM IN America that doesnt count as someplace else.

j/k....we dont have a basement...:p

Hand-E-Food
4th May 2003, 07:18
Originally posted by Master_Ryan
HEY! I AM IN America that doesnt count as someplace else.

j/k....we dont have a basement...:p
I didn't say Americans didn't make games in their Mum's basement.
Hehe... Underground gaming...

Arraxis
4th May 2003, 11:38
Anybody who weren't impressed with the Haegemonia demo I suggested in another forum will get a kick out of this!

PC Powerplay (An Australian mag which is my fave PC mag) just gave Haegemonia an 89/100 (which I agree with). Pros were: Incredible graphics, absorbing gameplay and Bombardment. Cons were: Terrible story, vague missions and difficult to move. Overall: "Although not entirely perfect, a thoroughly absorbing game that provides a wealth of entertainment". If you want to see the whole review and you live in Australia, get issue #86.

P.S. There wasn't a bug-mention in the review.

Narcissus X
4th May 2003, 16:36
Originally posted by Hand-E-Food
Germany do not make crap games. Almost everything I've seen out of there (which is, admittidly, not much), is brilliant. Septerra Core, Divine Divinity (although buggy), Project Nomads, The Last Eichoff... All great games, all poorly underexposed.


Isn't 1503 AD a German game?:D
I'm enjoying that one tremendously!!

MunkeeChum
4th May 2003, 22:07
German games usually do exceptionally well in Germany.

Hand-E-Food
4th May 2003, 22:38
Originally posted by Arraxis
Anybody who weren't impressed with the Haegemonia demo I suggested in another forum will get a kick out of this!

PC Powerplay (An Australian mag which is my fave PC mag) just gave Haegemonia an 89/100 (which I agree with). Pros were: Incredible graphics, absorbing gameplay and Bombardment. Cons were: Terrible story, vague missions and difficult to move. Overall: "Although not entirely perfect, a thoroughly absorbing game that provides a wealth of entertainment". If you want to see the whole review and you live in Australia, get issue #86.

P.S. There wasn't a bug-mention in the review.
I tried the demo (the one that came on the Australian PC Powerplay cover disc). It wouldn't run! That immediately lost it points. And if the story sucks, then I won't enjoy it nearly as much as I could. But that's just me.

Originally posted by Narcissus X
Isn't 1503 AD a German game?:D
I'm enjoying that one tremendously!!
The only thing I liked about it over Emperor was that building needed resources to be built, not just money. But I'm sick of the compulsory military aspect. I prefer building cities and things rather then armies.

Exitium
6th May 2003, 21:45
Japanese Pooter Games: Porn, and if you don't believe me, I'm sure this (http://pc.ign.com/articles/167/167264p1.html) will convince you otherwise.

(By the way, Shogo: Moblie Armour Division, is not Japanese either...)

Hand-E-Food
6th May 2003, 22:31
Is Shogo German?

Arraxis
7th May 2003, 05:57
They gave the story a bad mark because it wasn't told too well.

"Unfortunately, Haegemonia is not without its flaws and the biggest problem would have to be a poorly translated story which has worse dialogue than a low-budget morning cartoon."

Exitium
7th May 2003, 10:52
No, Shogo is made and published by Monolith, and American corperation.