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invader
29th Aug 2002, 01:15
No big deal actually :rolleyes: :D It's just the level I'm playing now. I've stopped before the creatures (after the lift) - by the way, the puzzles have been cool so far - It took me ages to find the way out the road outside - darn! it was so simple!! LOL

DKSM
30th Aug 2002, 18:18
I just finished that level for the second time now. I really like that one. :)

invader
3rd Sep 2002, 02:48
I have finished it. The turrets are a pain in the neck, but that was fun :D

Rook
4th Sep 2002, 06:05
I haven't even gotten there, yet...:o

:D

mrdefender
4th Sep 2002, 15:21
Thats the problem. Everything is so simple its hard.. :( (if that makes any sense)

Rook
5th Sep 2002, 07:58
Heck, I'm still trying to get used to the controls--having neglected to read the manual and find out what they are...:o :D

mrdefender
5th Sep 2002, 14:50
I almost always read the manual. It makes it that much easier to understand & play the game.

What I don't read is EULAs (End User License Agreements or "copyrights"). You've read one, you've read them all.

"You cant make a copy and sell the copy"
"You cant make a copy unless its for backup purposes"
I forget the rest but its the basic "Dont run with scisors" story. Everything you know you shouldnt do but it doesnt stop ppl from doing it.

Thats what Warez is for :b (not that I use it.. I can't stand all those popups!!)

Rook
6th Sep 2002, 06:32
Well, half the time, even when I have read the manual, I still get hung up on the controls, so I might just as well be completely in the dark when I start a new game.

Kidding.;)

And I don't bother with any of that "Thou Shalt Not" copyright stuff either.:D

mrdefender
7th Sep 2002, 21:51
thats why they have customizable controls :)

Rook
8th Sep 2002, 05:09
I'd still have to get used to them after I customized them. I'm kinda dopey with new games no matter what I do...http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/aktion/aktion061.gif

invader
8th Sep 2002, 17:27
I understand you. Everytime I start a game it takes me some time to get used to the controls. For customizing you first need to get familiarized to the particular moves of the game anyway.

When I tried the demo I had some difficulty. As far as I see (which is not too distant :D ) there should be a tutorial for PE.

Rook
8th Sep 2002, 19:18
Heehee. Yeah, I just don't think I'm used to that whole working with 4 different characters at once thing, yet. I'm getting there, though...sloooowly...:o :D

mrdefender
8th Sep 2002, 20:30
really? wow.

WSAD, SPACE, X, LeftClick, RightClick, SHIFT, Q, E

Forward. Backward, Strafe Left, Strafe Right, Jump, Crouch, Shoot, Alt Shoot, Switch Previous Weap, Switch Next Weap, Use

I Keep ALT, CTRL, F6/F9 for...

BonusFeature1, BonusFeature2, Quick Save, Quick Load.

Those are basics to most fps games nowadays.


For games that have the bind command (like: bind 1 kill) I use the rest of the F# keys for cheats.

like bind F1 GOD and stuff.

You never know when you're going to run into 5 bosses you know.. :D

Rook
8th Sep 2002, 20:41
I got a little too used to playing Legacy of Kain games and, as much as I love them, the controls are pretty much simplistic 2-button hack and slash moves. I hate to say that, because it makes the gameplay sound really terrible, and it's not. I have nothing against a simple fighting system (coz I'm absolutely addicted to the storyline anyway!), but it takes a bit of time to get out of that mentality...

I'm kinda slow, what can I say? :rolleyes: :D

mrdefender
8th Sep 2002, 21:52
2 buttons? geez. goes back to the NES system :)

Rook
9th Sep 2002, 05:49
I think I make it sound a bit worse than it is. They're not bad. They have a somewhat simple fighting system (particularly in the earlier games), but then you've also got to fiddle with spells and things, and it does use a few more buttons here and there.;) The original Blood Omen is a pretty old game, by game standards, though. It came out in '96, when 2D graphics and simple attacks were still pretty impressive.

invader
10th Sep 2002, 00:49
Originally posted by Rook
Heehee. Yeah, I just don't think I'm used to that whole working with 4 different characters at once thing, yet. I'm getting there, though...sloooowly...:o :D

That's the way it goes :) Before playing the demo I had been playing a lot of Tomb Raider. Tho I had played Hidden & Dangerous, in which you have to control a team of 4, it is quite diferent from PE. I was quite slow with the moves, but practice makes perfect. I do not intend to show off but I even was capable to beat (great) Runtime in the fastest time challenge for the demo.

Even now I'm going slowly thru the levels, partly for lack of time, partly for not being that smart (I had to use the walkthru 2 times)

mrdefender
10th Sep 2002, 00:53
the thing interface is more user friendly.

You dont switch characters. Thats what I found confusing in the construction zone. You had to have a specific character do a specifc thing during the time another specific character does another specific thing while another specific character stays at a specific spot, etc...

invader
10th Sep 2002, 00:54
Originally posted by mrdefender
You never know when you're going to run into 5 bosses you know.. :D [/B]

LOL

invader
10th Sep 2002, 01:17
Originally posted by mrdefender
the thing interface is more user friendly.

You dont switch characters. Thats what I found confusing in the construction zone. You had to have a specific character do a specifc thing during the time another specific character does another specific thing while another specific character stays at a specific spot, etc...

I see. But I guess that's part of the challenge. Construction Zone is a very creative level, I enjoyed a lot - tho it gave me some headache LOL

mrdefender
13th Sep 2002, 06:44
i think everyone got a headache from that one.

I enjoyed the last level. It was balanced in every catagory.

Not to heavy on monsters in areas (not 40 bad guys comming at you at once)

Not to heavy on puzzles
Not to heavy on specific character roles (ala construction zone)

Rook
14th Sep 2002, 05:18
Well, I haven't got a headache from it...yet...;)

Sounds like a royal pain in the backside, though!:eek:

mrdefender
14th Sep 2002, 07:28
i have a headache about it right now.

well... actually.. ive been playing earth and beyond for about 10 hours straight. it so addictive.

im just glad u need to pay for the service (its seriously making me point in the "no" direction of buying it.. but i want it !! :( )

I'm gonna look at price (US) and convert it to (CAN) which is simple.. enough..

US / 2 = Y......... Y+US = CAN

So 20$ US is about 30$ CAN (cause 20/2 = 10, 20+10 = 30 :) )

but if it costs 30$ US /month.. thats 45$ canadian per month..

Thats like getting another game!!!!!!!!!!!

Plus Its only credit card accessible.... So I'd need to convert my bank card into visa (only option it allows).. And I'm 19 :( Getting used to cheques.. dunno about a credit card.


ARGH! I <something> for the days I was younger...

invader
17th Sep 2002, 00:44
You'd better get an aspirin

invader
17th Sep 2002, 00:50
Originally posted by Rook
Well, I haven't got a headache from it...yet...;)

Sounds like a royal pain in the backside, though!:eek:

You'd better get prepared and buy some too, just in case sure :D

By the way, where are you now? Home, sure ;) I mean, what level?

Rook
17th Sep 2002, 08:53
I'm still getting used to the controls, and I haven't really had the chance to put a diligent effort into playing it, yet. I'm still on the first level.:o

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gifI'm serious, stop laughing!http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gif

mrdefender
17th Sep 2002, 19:14
<sound of retaining laugh>.........
<laugh furiously trying to come out>.....


<oh no!! its almost out!!>.......

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaHAHAHAHAHAHA <deep breath for 10 seconds>

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

<dies of too much laughter>


/me thinks he shouldve listend...


:D :D :p :D :D :D :p

Rook
19th Sep 2002, 05:19
Well that was uncalled for... :p ;) :D

mrdefender
19th Sep 2002, 14:41
<defender's ghost>

What was? My death or laughter ?


BAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAGRHHHCOUGHGURGLBLWEHEUGHPOWITZEEKPPLUMP.

Damn it, i died again (step aside homer)

invader
20th Sep 2002, 01:54
Originally posted by Rook
I'm still getting used to the controls, and I haven't really had the chance to put a diligent effort into playing it, yet. I'm still on the first level.:o

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gifI'm serious, stop laughing!http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gif


:eek: Gosh! THAT'S TERRIBLE! You must do your homework! Forget everything and start playing it NOW! :mad: :D

Seriously, I understand. That's why I said they should have made a tutorial - say, like the one in Max Payne - for PE. Anyways, make an effort, k ;)

No, I'M NOT LAUGHING :rolleyes:

Rook
22nd Sep 2002, 03:21
Originally posted by mrdefender
<defender's ghost>

What was? My death or laughter ?


Either--or both!;) How do you use the computer if you're a ghost, anyway. Whom have you possessed?:eek: :D


Originally posted by invader
No, I'M NOT LAUGHING :rolleyes:

Why not? Everybody else is--including me!http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gif

mrdefender
22nd Sep 2002, 03:53
no one!!

haven't u seen the movie ghost?? I focus my being to use objects from now and then.

Rook
22nd Sep 2002, 07:39
True. But he could also possess people--like Whoopie Goldberg. The more I think about it, the creepier that whole scene seems...:o http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gif

mrdefender
22nd Sep 2002, 23:24
hehe.

U havent watched Quantum Leap have u ?

Every show Sam Becket (Scott Bakula) Leaped (or, for lamen terms "possess") someone to set the wrong things right..

Rook
22nd Sep 2002, 23:54
Yep, I used to watch Quantum Leap quite a bit. Some of those scenarios seemed a little creepy, too.;)

Edit: And, in my further defense regarding how long it's taking me to get used to the PE controls, I'm also in the middle of working my way through another game that I've had almost since I bought my PS2, and it's driving me NUTZ!! :p :D

mrdefender
23rd Sep 2002, 04:42
I could probobly play an FPS game with 2 hands tied behind my back.

ITS TRUE!!

I have the Microsoft Sidewinder GameVoice :)

Forward, Backward, Attack Alpha, Shoot Delay 10 seconds.. Turn. Jump. Dive. Dodge.. MegaShot.

<bleep> <Player was killed by Defender's Awesome strategy>
<bleep> <Player was killed by Defender's act of compasion>

:D

Rook
23rd Sep 2002, 05:26
Never heard of it.:o I miss all the cool stuff, I guess.:D

mrdefender
24th Sep 2002, 05:13
never heard of it either until I bought ST: Bridge Commander, which had a GameVoice profile (collection of voice commands) on the CD and read the readme about GameVoice being supported.

Rook
24th Sep 2002, 05:45
That sounds pretty nifty. I might just have to look into that one! :cool: :D

As for my current alternate gaming venture, I was stuck four posts ago, and I'm still stuck in the same place!! AARGH!!

:D

mrdefender
24th Sep 2002, 06:00
just click on everything. ull eventually get what u want.

Rook
24th Sep 2002, 06:10
Click on everything where?:o

mrdefender
24th Sep 2002, 15:58
Basicly, anything that can be "used", "activated" or "clicked on" does a good thing.

So when u c something that can be used, use it and most of the time something good happens (most of the time is a door that opens to a new area in the puzzle)

DKSM
24th Sep 2002, 20:24
Yeah, click on everything that can be. You should get it eventually.

Rook
25th Sep 2002, 06:01
The game I was referring to being stuck in is actually Vagrant Story. That's the "alternate" gaming venture I mentioned that has kept me from getting back to PE and wrapping my head around the controls on that one.

Sorry for the confusion...:o :(

Thanks for the PE tips, though.:D

mrdefender
25th Sep 2002, 18:20
np

DKSM is a poet :)

Rook
26th Sep 2002, 05:29
You wouldn't believe how long it took me just to find the elevator at the beginning of PE...:eek: :o http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/lachen/lachen002.gif

DKSM
26th Sep 2002, 19:31
Try me. :p

mrdefender
26th Sep 2002, 21:26
I got it the first time. I took a wrong turn :) (well. it was the right turn but was wrong, according to control)

My sister's boyfriend took over an hour to figgure it out..

Rook
27th Sep 2002, 05:20
That's what I mean. Going "right" got me all screwed up. I was in the correct place the first time I started playing the game because I was concentrating more on getting the controls down than I was on listening to directions from Control.

mrdefender
27th Sep 2002, 18:21
ah. I'm a quick learner.

If its any consolation.. I found the elevator on my first try but didnt know how to open it.. :)

(all u had to do is walk, which aint that hard but what button do u push to activate something?? most games have a key bind for "use" but in PE it was target and click..)

Rook
28th Sep 2002, 06:38
Well, I'm a slow learner--sometimes!:D

And that's not much consolation at all.;) :D I went to the room where the elevator was the very first time I played it, it just didn't look like an elevator, so I thought I was in the wrong place.:o

mrdefender
28th Sep 2002, 18:13
ok.. how about this to cheer u up...

It took me 30 minutes to finish the contruction yard map :(

Rook
28th Sep 2002, 18:20
Ok, that makes me feel a bit better.:D That is, until I get to that part and I end up taking 2 hours to figure it out.:o :D

mrdefender
28th Sep 2002, 18:23
doh! em.. em.. em...


@ 3 years old I found the meaning of life?? no.. that wont work..

em.. em.. :( gosh.. eh... em... eh...

Found where the fountain of youth is.. im actually 900 years old..

em.. em.. I'm afraid I dont have anything to cheer u up with...


OH WAIT!!! How about a cup of coffee???

. ~
[ ])

Extra hot just for u!!



[EDITED] (took me a while to get the tilde (represents heat wave) at the right spot... had to play with the commands a bit)

Rook
28th Sep 2002, 18:28
Hey! That'll work! Gotta have my coffee!! http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/ernaehrung/ernaehrung021.gif

mrdefender
28th Sep 2002, 18:29
NOOOOOO!

I just finished it after you replied :(



where did u get the emoticon? Here I am using ascii!!

Rook
28th Sep 2002, 18:34
But I like you're coffee cup better! It's handmade.:)

http://http://www.clicksmilies.com/ has tons of them. That's where I pilfered most of my goofed up smileys from.

Or there's always http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/ernaehrung/ernaehrung010.gif

mrdefender
28th Sep 2002, 20:47
You are no match for Jedi Smile!!

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/starwars/starwars023.gif


Im gonna spell my name in this reply since it reached the limit then I'm going back to sane smile posts :)

mrdefender
28th Sep 2002, 20:48
http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/013.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/014.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/015.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/014.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/023.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/013.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/014.gifhttp://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/abc/027.gif

Rook
29th Sep 2002, 05:07
Hah! I love the letter smileys! I've seen them on that site, but I've never used them before. They look cool!

I copied a whole bunch of the codes for various smileys and pasted them on WordPad so that I don't have to keep going back to that site all the time. Then I just copy them from there and use them all over the place on these forums.

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/party/party004.gif Peekaboo!

Or there's always
http://www.mysmileys.com. They've got some pretty nifty ones, too. http://www.contrabandent.com/cwm/s/otn/happy/rock.gif

mrdefender
29th Sep 2002, 15:44
I've put one in my sig :)

Rook
29th Sep 2002, 19:42
:cool:Hey, that's cool!:D

Or how about this one?


http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/Yuppygoat/Starwars.gif


:D

mrdefender
30th Sep 2002, 00:28
hehe

Rook
30th Sep 2002, 01:14
I think I've officially become a smiley junkie. They probably have support groups to help loonies like me get over their smiley addiction.

http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/Yuppygoat/sicdeth.gif

;) :D

mrdefender
30th Sep 2002, 15:42
theres the following site..

http://www.LookWhatYouDid.com/Addiction/SmileJunky/helpme.htm



:)

Rook
1st Oct 2002, 06:55
It just gives me a "Website not found" message...

What is it? (Something about addictions, I'm guessing.:D)

mrdefender
5th Oct 2002, 19:47
was supposed to be a joke but the forum thought of it as a url so..

LookWhatYouDid.com/Addiction/SmileJunky/helpme.htm


:D

Rook
6th Oct 2002, 00:41
I just end up getting a message box that says website www.lookwhatyoudid.com could not be found. It's probably a Netscape problem.:rolleyes: Even if it isn't, I'll blame it on Netscape, coz Netscape sucks.:D

Rook
6th Oct 2002, 06:44
In relation to my previous reply,

WOOHOO! MY INTERNET EXPLORER HATH RETURNED! HAPPY! HAPPY! JOY! JOY!

Ok, I'm done now...

**giggle**

I'm happy...:D

mrdefender
9th Oct 2002, 03:23
em.. look carefully. read it slowly..

LookWhatYouDid.com/Addiction/SmileJunky/helpme.htm



Look what you did(.com)

/Addiction/

SmileJunky/

helpme(.htm)



I think I've officially become a smiley junkie. They probably have support groups to help loonies like me get over their smiley addiction.


see where im going? now go back to the post before the first reply that this was mentioned...

Rook
9th Oct 2002, 06:32
Originally posted by Rook
Well, I'm a slow learner--sometimes!:D


http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/sad/Lamp-5.gif

mrdefender
10th Oct 2002, 03:37
Really? wow. I know the feeling.