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Pistols
15th Jul 2002, 21:50
Something to think about
In light of the many perversions and jokes we send along to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:
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>*Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" regarding the attacks on Sept. 11 ). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman
>He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"
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>In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
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>Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
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>Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we
>don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK.
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>Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
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>Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said OK.
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>Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said OK.
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>And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech.
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>Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
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>Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
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>Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of
>God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
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>Are you laughing?
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>Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
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>Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.
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>Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not.. then just discard it ... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
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moose562
15th Jul 2002, 21:59
Thats interesting...

I am a little reserved about my judgement of this, I am more into the spiritual side of things now than ever, human organisations and beliefs don't count with that I guess

I don't know

that whole post confused me you know, and I am rambling...

LarzBritsh
15th Jul 2002, 22:05
We all want basic freedoms and rights. But we never though that something bad can come out of it.

I'll be sure to forward this.

EddyBones
16th Jul 2002, 00:49
Didn't read the whole thing yet, but I have an oppinion anyway.
God lets stuff happen because He wants His people to be free. He isn't going to tell us what's right and wrong all the time. We should know that already. He leaves us with choices. He's not going to keep people from doing anything, no matter how bad it is. We must suffer the consequences of our imperfection. We had a chance for everything to be perfect in the beginning, but we blew it.

tricky lynx
16th Jul 2002, 03:46
ok the terrorist attacks have NOTHING to do with god bieng "a gentleman" and backing out of our lives because we want him to. god gives everyone free will and whatever happens happens. i think there is NO SUCH THING as divine intervention on earth. the bottome line is FREE WILL - it can be gift and/or a curse. god pretty much wound up the universe like a clock and let us run ourselves out.

everyone should see the movie The Devil's Advocate. Theres a big long speech towards the bout the character of god. it seems pretty accurate... granted, its coming from the mouth of satan in the scene, but its still interesting.. maybe ill find a transcript of it somewhere and post it.

tricky lynx
16th Jul 2002, 03:54
i have more to say...
the whole original post is a long list of places to put blame. its just a bunch of finger pointing and high-and-mighty head shaking and its making me mad. as i said before. FREE WILL. whatever society does in schools or government can influence people, but you always have the last say in what you do. so if a portion of the human race is going down the toilet, maybe its just sinking to where it truly belongs.

GoranAgar
16th Jul 2002, 06:09
This might be interesting for some people, but this gaming forum is not the right place to discuss things like this.

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