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corseque
15th Jul 2002, 19:09
I've never managed to actually do anything while dressing up as the hotel boy and bringing towels to Wulff's room. I'm always thrown out before I have the chance of doing anything. Has anyone managed to get in through the front door?

Zaphod
15th Jul 2002, 19:41
I once managed to get the guard to let me in, then to pull out the twin handguns I had taken off two other guards (in the Dentist's office) and shoot both the hallway guard and the balcony guard. But all that noise brought every cop in the hotel looking for me. I have also tried to run in, grab the silenced Luger, equip it, and take out both guards... but never made that work. I quickly learned that it was MUCH easier to go across the balconies and come in the back way.

Xcom
15th Jul 2002, 20:56
Has anyone1 tried to snipe the balcony guard from the street? :D

Zaphod
15th Jul 2002, 21:07
Yeah - that can be fun. Kind of a waste of a sniper rifle, though, unless you plan on killing both front door guards and going on a Killing Spree.

Xcom
15th Jul 2002, 21:13
Originally posted by Zaphod
Kind of a waste of a sniper rifle, though

True. But it has certain benefits. It makes the entrance to the Wulf's room like 100% easier. You don't have to worry about that guard any more.

ICEBreaker
15th Jul 2002, 21:53
I've done it. I sniped him, the two policemen and everyone else who ran out at me.

DeJavu
15th Jul 2002, 23:29
Hey,
was up.. The best way to get around that problem is.. if you take out the 2 guards in the front with a silenced weapon without causing the alarm to go off.. and then using the sniper rifle to "ICE/whack" the guy on the balcony.. hehe! Or you can take out the guard on the right at the frontdoor with a sniper rifle and when the guy on the left runs to checkup on him and see what happened.. take care off him! And then take care off the guy on the balcony. But, I am not completely sure if it will work out.. Let me know what happens if you do try either one off these tactics.. =) Have fun!!!

Saba
16th Jul 2002, 02:27
I'm not sure if it'll work, but it sounds pretty fun. I don't know if you guys have tried this, but I always carry Franz over to the balcony and drop him down to the street...

Just to make sure he's dead.

DeJavu
17th Jul 2002, 02:17
Hey,
was up.. lmao about dropping the guy off the balcony just to make sure he'z dead. I say if your STILL not sure if he'z dead.. then drag him on the street to where the limo's gonna come from.. and well.. u get :p hehehe! Have fun!!!

ICEBreaker
17th Jul 2002, 02:31
One can never be too sure!! Just watch any movie to see this in action.

Saba
17th Jul 2002, 05:52
That's right, you can never be too sure, especially with a guy like Franz! So basically, drop him on the street, drag him over into the first lane, and then wait for your limo! You've got to save ammo, you know.

corseque
17th Jul 2002, 13:43
Sniping the two policemen at the fron door allows transporting the entire arsenal of concealed weapons into the hotel. Kill the guards, walk to the rope fence, drop your inventory to the ground, walk throught the metal detector and pick up the weapons again :) .

It is possible to walk anywwhere in the hotel without going through the metal detectors (once you're through the front door, that is) but it is much easier just to dress up as a policeman. That way you can carry anything without triggering the alarm.

I've foud out that the easiest way of neutralizing the balcony guard is sniping him. Either from the ground or from the next balcony. Disassembled sniper rifle doesn't trigger metal detectors either. The other way involves jumping from the other balcony just when he goes inside and stragling him.

DeJavu
17th Jul 2002, 15:38
Hey,
was up.. Here'z the basic walk through for this level..


Originally posted by corseque
Sniping the two policemen at the fron door allows transporting the entire arsenal of concealed weapons into the hotel. Kill the guards, walk to the rope fence, drop your inventory to the ground, walk throught the metal detector and pick up the weapons again :) .

It is possible to walk anywwhere in the hotel without going through the metal detectors (once you're through the front door, that is) but it is much easier just to dress up as a policeman. That way you can carry anything without triggering the alarm.

I've foud out that the easiest way of neutralizing the balcony guard is sniping him. Either from the ground or from the next balcony. Disassembled sniper rifle doesn't trigger metal detectors either.

and then taking care off our very dear freind Franz! hehe!!

Originally posted by Saba

That's right, you can never be too sure, especially with a guy like Franz! So basically, drop him on the street, drag him over into the first lane, and then wait for your limo! You've got to save ammo, you know.

Now we need to do something UNIQUE about the guy in the baths.. with the key to the door for getting the bomb.. any ideas..?! lol! Have fun!!!

ICEBreaker
17th Jul 2002, 18:10
Isn't triggering his heart attack unique enough for you?

DeJavu
17th Jul 2002, 22:12
Hey,
was up.. You want a plain and simply answer.. "no" hehe.. I want to do something thats interesting.. something..funny.. you know.. like what we did with Franz.. :eek: lol! Have fun!!!

Xcom
17th Jul 2002, 23:01
Originally posted by ICEBreaker
I've done it. I sniped him, the two policemen and everyone else who ran out at me.

I thought you once said that you never kill innocent civilians? :D

ICEBreaker
18th Jul 2002, 01:08
The policemen are not civilians. Other people who ran out are the other bodyguards. I don't like killing the police, but it was good for training in this occasion.

Xcom
18th Jul 2002, 01:35
Originally posted by ICEBreaker
The policemen are not civilians.

Well, they still get counted as "innocent" losses.

ICEBreaker
18th Jul 2002, 01:56
You are right, but they are unavoidable kills if I want to do some sniping.

Zaphod
18th Jul 2002, 02:07
Technically, at least in the US version, they are counted as "Police." Civilians are counted separately. But they both fall under the heading of "Unneccessary Kills."

That's really splitting hairs, though.

I much prefer the balcony-leap. You don't really have to worry about the timing all that much. If you don't have a weapon drawn and you make your leap as Balcony Thug heads back inside you've got about 30 seconds to kill him (note: this is a long time).

Of course, when replying in full Berzerker mode, the Front Door police have to go. And there's no reason why any alarms should go off. If you're even moderately good with the sniper (and that's all I'd say I am), you can take out both before the second has a chance to respond. Then stand next to the rope beside the metal detector, drop all your stuff over the rope, pass through the detector, pick it up, grab a policeman's uniform, if you can deal with how silly Tobias looks in it, and proceed inside to live out your your Hotel of Blood fantasy with no one the wiser.

Zaphod
18th Jul 2002, 02:07
Just talking about this (and I haven't talked about the missions in a good few weeks) makes me realize something...

MAN, I can't wait for Hitman 2.

Saba
18th Jul 2002, 02:54
Hitman was the best game I've ever played, and I don't need to go into great detail to tell you guys why. And to imagine that a game like Hitman is going to be back and in an unarguably better form is an amazing concept for me right now. Even if they'd be releasing a mission pack I'd be excited, but to be releasing a new game with all the near-fatal flaws of the previous one patched up, and with better graphics, an intriguing storyline, and what appears to be some awesome missions, Hitman 2 is going to be a game to die for.

Correction: Instead of dropping your weapons and then running over and picking them up, just jump over the posts with the jump cheat. Another interesting suggestion--I always like to sneak up behind the guard on the balcony and send him sailing over street with a blast from my Franchi. Of course, this works best when in invisible mode, but you could also try leaping across to his balcony and then sending him over the fence with a spurt from your Uzi before he has time to unholster his weapon.

Now, about the Dentist:

How do we know he had a heart attack? He may have fainted, right? So to be sure, you can do two things:

1. Drag him with you to the limo, of course!

2. Throw him into the pool and make sure he sinks to the bottom.

DeJavu
18th Jul 2002, 23:00
Hey,
was up.. I cant wait till Hitman 2 comes out.. :cool: I am saving up money for the game.. hehe! But, I dont know when's it coming out.. I been to gamespot.. seen the pics.. read the stuff.. and all.. but what the release date?! :confused: And, Saba.. your talking about drowning the guy right.. cuz "dead men float.." I know I've tried it.. I killed that HUGE lady and then I managed to somehow drag :eek: her into the pool.. lol! But, I wonder if you can throw a "dead" person off the inside balcony.. Can you do it with the jump cheat?! I would try it myself but the only cheat I dont know is the jump cheat.. hehe! Have fun!!!

Salem4
19th Jul 2002, 17:51
It is possible to kill the balcony guard when you are going inside the room with the towels, just squeeze yourself between him and the door to the bathroom and use the fibre wire. It is a bit "slippery" behind him, but i managed it once.

The release date is by the way september third.

ICEBreaker
22nd Jul 2002, 21:44
What room with towels?

Zaphod
22nd Jul 2002, 21:53
The Utility Closets. There's several scattered around the hotel. The most obvious one is right at the end of the little hallway near the metal detector on the right-side Grand Staircase. (I'm making those terms up).

If you're standing in the lobby, and you go up the right stairs (like you were going to Room 202), go through the metal detector, and keep walking straight ahead. The door at the end of that little hallway is a utility closet. Most contain towels. At least one (IIRC), contains a spare bellboy uniform.

In a related story, I dug Hitman out from my desk last night and played every mission again. Then I played Traditions 5 more times. What a fine, fine level. I'm now finding it VERY difficult to Wire the guard outside Room 202 once I'm standing inside. I used to have no problem with it, but last night every time I tried, I got seen by the bellboy or cop. And I had an eye out for them, too! I don't know what my problem was.

ICEBreaker
22nd Jul 2002, 22:16
Thanks Zaphod, but the problem was really my comprehension of this statement:

It is possible to kill the balcony guard when you are going inside the room with the towels, just squeeze yourself between him and the door to the bathroom and use the fibre wire. It is a bit "slippery" behind him, but i managed it once.
I just don't understand the relation between the guard who stands on the balcony with any of the rooms with towels.

Saba
23rd Jul 2002, 05:47
I found that a bit confusing too. I considered the utility room with the bellboy's uniform too, but that didn't seem to make sense--"...when you are going inside the room with the towels, just squeeze yourself between him and the door to the bathroom and use the fibre wire..."

By the way, I have never, never killed the Room 202 guard. Never, ever. The first time I played the mission, I never got it right, so after a bit, I just gave up and decided to put the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door without the kill. I would open the door and put the sign on, or just walk up to it and slip it behind the him (the guard)... Killing him was not part of the objectives anyways. And if you can put the sign on the door without killing him, that qualifies his death as an unnecessary kill, correct?

It's always funny to think he's guarding little more than a room full of dead bodies, too.

corseque
23rd Jul 2002, 13:09
BTW, how is it possible to get into the X-Ray room without killing the secretary? Only way to get past the guard is to kill him and if I do that, the secretary runs away to raise the alarm.

Zaphod
23rd Jul 2002, 14:29
AH! I get the misunderstanding now.
(Which also helps ease my mind a little. Yesterday I was saying, "How could ICE have played this game for over a year and never seen any of the utility closets in the hotel?!")

What you guys had was just a syntactical misunderstanding.

Try reading the sentance like this: "It is possible to kill the balcony guard when you are going, with the towels, inside the room; just squeeze yourself between him and the door to the bathroom and use the fibre wire. It is a bit "slippery" behind him, but i managed it once."

It wasn't the room with towels, it was you with towels. I have a headache now.

Saba
24th Jul 2002, 04:42
A single misplaced comma caused all this confusion.

I should have seen that.

ICEBreaker
24th Jul 2002, 06:42
OH!!! I see what you mean now!!!

Salem4
24th Jul 2002, 22:43
You understood it, zaphod. Nice! I'm sorry for causing you all this problems, but remember that i'm not American or English or anything like that. English is my second language.

Zaphod
24th Jul 2002, 23:04
Oofda.

hitman fan
25th Jul 2002, 05:16
Originally posted by ICEBreaker
Isn't triggering his heart attack unique enough for you?

hi everyone, i'm new to hitman, and obviously new to this board. first things first: very cool game--can't wait for the new one; and very cool forum.

now, can someone please help me out? i can kill wulff every time and usually get out of the room undetected (i just go in the room next door and jump across the balcony...
the problem is, i can't get the key to the x-ray room. very frustrating. i even killed the dentist once, but he didn't have a key on him. what's this about triggering his heart attack? after reading that post i tried shooting over his head in the sauna, but he just ran out and i got slaughtered.
HELP!!

and thanks for the insights also.

peace:confused:

Zaphod
25th Jul 2002, 05:28
Hey HF (you're now known as HF cause I love initials)

Talk to the Dentist in the sauna. He mentions how hot it is in there... then walk out of the sauna and look around that little anteroom... notice anything that controls the heat? Turn it for an amusing cutscene.

The Dentist does have the XRay key on him. Always. Try it again once you kill him - it should be there. If not, write back.

Saba
25th Jul 2002, 05:50
Let's call him "The Fan," for now. No, "El Fan." I think that Tom Clancy novel I've been reading is seriously affecting me.

OK, sorry, I'm not helping.

I think you have to trigger a heart attack in order for the dentist to pee the key. That's right. He's eaten the key for maximum security. Only a heart attack with cause him to cough it up...

OK, I'm still confusing everyone.

From my limited knowledge, I can tell you that you'll only be able to get your hands on the key once you've killed the Dentist--triggered his heart attack, that is. I haven't tried killing him the conventional way, but that's my suspicion right now. Remember, The Fan, get in the habit of talking to everyone. It really helps.

Hop on outside after your conversation with the dentist, and to put it bluntly, and also to annoyingly repeat exactly what Zaphod was telling you, in more blunt form, but still, (Spoiler), OK, I'll get to the point--turn the little red wheel right outside the sauna, attached to a pipe on the wall.

You can run back, take note that the Dentist levitated back to his original position. Train your crosshairs on him, right click and select "Pick Up X-Ray Room Key," just as you would and probably have picked up weapons, and amulets, and changed uniforms, etc., etc., over the course of the game. That should do the trick.

Zaphod
25th Jul 2002, 11:34
Killing him a more conventional way will also allow you to take the key. For months before I figured out the sauna-room trick (I used to get the dentist last) I always found him when he was in the restaurant. I'd wait for him to go into the Men's Room and get him there with a fibre wire. Then I'd take the key. So you don't have you cause the heart attack to get the key.

Xcom
25th Jul 2002, 15:44
Originally posted by Zaphod
So you don't have you cause the heart attack to get the key.

Nope. He also visits the casino and again, you can strangle him when he goes to the bathroom.

hitman fan
25th Jul 2002, 18:33
okay, i just tried it and i completed the entire level in a very short time. you're right--that sauna heart attack scene is hilarious.
the only thing i botched was walking through the metal detector with the bomb (duh). i had gotten used to stashing my guns and i was so stoked that i had secured the bomb that i forgot it would set off the alarms...
i managed to get through the whole mission by only killing the two guards in the dentist's office, the one in wulff's room, and of course, the dentist and wulff. on second thought i didn't have to kill the guard at the front door to the dentist's office. oh well, i needed practice with the fibre wire.

thanks everyone, for your help.

Saba
25th Jul 2002, 20:05
The alarm will always go off when you're making your exit with the bomb, there's no way around it. If you absolutely must preserve your stealth, use the jump cheat. If not, toss your bomb case over the side, run through the metal detector, pick it up, and continue on.

One thing that's always bothered me: How come the guns set off the alarms when you run through the metal detectors, but never the keys?

Salem4
25th Jul 2002, 23:21
Originally posted by Zaphod
Oofda.

What do you mean? Is it the norwegian phrase "Uff, da" you are refering to? It means something like: "too bad" or "oh no".

Zaphod
25th Jul 2002, 23:30
Salem -

Yes. That's exactly what I meant to say.

Unfortunately, that's the only bit of Norweigan I know.
It'd be like someone coming to America and walking down the street saying "Bathtub" to everyone they met... sounds awfully stupid... but I was REALLY tired (and a little tipsy) when I wrote that. :)

Saba
26th Jul 2002, 04:17
A little tipsy?!

Salem4
26th Jul 2002, 11:27
You should on the other hand know quite a bit of Danish. Hitman is, as you hopefully know, Danish, and includes many Danish things. The cheat code for example: "Kim Bo Kastekniv" is probably the nickname for some of the programmers or something as "Kastekniv" means "Throwing Knife".

Saba
26th Jul 2002, 18:59
The developers are Danish, but Rieper is pure British.

(Just kidding - I meant American)

hitman fan
1st Aug 2002, 23:38
okay guys,

i'm stuck at the 'meet your brother' level. the best i've ever done is 8 of them...most of the time i can only get three or four.

anyone know some good methods for this one?

oh, and is the antidote from the previous mission useless?

thanks again

DeJavu
2nd Aug 2002, 01:15
Hey,
was up.. I played this level everyweek without cheats.. and its easy to pass it.. here's what I think you should do from the start, and Good Luck =)

You should have a handgun and a MP5 at the least from the last level.. Use the handgun to kill the Guy at the Desk..
Head around the corner through the gate where an orderly sits at a desk. He will draw a gun on you no matter what so you might as well blow him away. Drop that weapon nomatter how much ammo you got left and take out your MP5.

Go to where the next gate. Once you hit the intersection, you should see a cutscene. And then, at the intersection, turn right and open the gate. Run straight ahead at the next intersection, turn right and open the gate. Then run straight ahead across the hall to the steel door in front of you and go in there. There's a Minigun waiting for you, but draw whatever weapon you have and wait for the first clone to come after you. Shoot at him through the gate or whenever you see him, but make sure he's dead.

Once he is, turn around and grab the Minigun. However, the Minigun is heavy, and you need to get somewhere quick. Select "Holster" in the inventory menu and Hitman will lower the Minigun to his side, thereby allowing him to run. Do NOT hit the "nothing" button as this will cause Hitman to drop the gun.

Run back the way you came (through the gate, left, through the gate), but instead of hanging the left to go back to the orderly, run down the long hallway to about the second light and turn around, facing the gate. Hug the left wall and bring up your Minigun. The clones will file in this way.

Now, just wait for the clones to come down the hallway as they. Just be sure to shoot as soon as you see them. Cuz, they have an incredibly accurate shot (a few rounds will take 50% from you in no time) and then run away, so make sure you down them before they down you.

:cool: Its pretty easy once you get the hang of it..=) :cool: hehe! Have fun!!!

hitman fan
2nd Aug 2002, 05:02
hey DeJavu-
after killing all the clones, there is only the guard left by that locked door. the door to the scanning/gas chamber is open, but i found out the hard way not to get too close to those foot outlines.
so, is there no more to the game? no closure to the story? i looked everywhere for a key, to no avail.
am i missing something?
thanks

hitman fan
2nd Aug 2002, 05:11
DeJavu-

ps. i'm pretty sure i picked up the sanitorium key from the previous mission. or is that what i did wrong?
thanks

DeJavu
2nd Aug 2002, 23:35
Hey,
was up.. Here are some tips that I hope help you kill the clones:

MINIGUN TRICK: There's a slight delay as you have to wait for the barrel to start spinning before the gun starts firing rounds. However, this can be circumvented by tapping the trigger once to get the barrel spinning. It may not work the first time, but it definitely will work.

Once your done with the clones.. here's what you do:

You holster the MiniGun, and Grab a Clone any clone.. and drag him to that glass room where you saw the clones being SCANNED!!! =) Then.. you should see a very interesting SCENE..

After the scene, ready up the Minigun again.. and get ready for One Last Kill.. THE LAST KILL IN THE GAME!!!:( Its, time for you to meet your Maker.. thats all I am gonna say..:D

Good Luck hehe! Have fun!!!

zappmon
2nd Aug 2002, 23:38
try dragging one of the clones into the scanning room.Good Luck [edit] Jinx, you owe me a beer...he he[edit]

hitman fan
3rd Aug 2002, 03:53
okay, i hate to keep asking you guys about every little detail, but i did what you said except nothing happened. that is, until i got too close to the footprints again, at which point i was gassed and the mission started over. is that the end of it, or did i not drag the clone to the right place? (i deposited him right on top of the footprints...)
also, i already emailed this question to the eidos people, and they gave me an answer that i'm not satisfied with. the problem is in the lee hong assassination mission. i get the poison from the herbalist, then go to the kitchen and attempt to put it in hong's food. when i scroll my mousewheel to put it in, i get the option to do so, like with any other action, but the text 'put poison in food' is ghosted as if i'm not close enough. problem is, the same thing happens no matter how close i am to the food. the eidos people told me that was the problem, but i think there is a bug (it isn't the only one--actually there are a few. the other one that comes to mind is in the restaurant mission. right at the beginning, when i get out of the car and begin running toward the restaurant, there is some sort of skip, and i get put back near the car. i have to run toward the restaurant a few times before the 'skip' disappears. i know for sure that this isn't something i'm doing wrong...
ideas?

Xcom
3rd Aug 2002, 04:15
Originally posted by hitman fan
i deposited him right on top of the footprints...

Don't drop the body. You must still hold on to it in order for it to work. While dragging the body, make sure it touches the footsteps first and not you. (Not sure if it matters but that's how I did it and it always worked)

Poison.

AFAIK, in order to get it to work:

a) you must be wearing chinese waitor's clothes (obviously you must kill one of them which will count as an unnecessary kill after mission ends)

b) The cook must be alive (and not alarmed) because he orders you to bring the soup to Lee Hong and this is when you put the poison in it.

Haven't experienced your third problem.

hitman fan
3rd Aug 2002, 18:16
Xcom-

thanks for the pointers. i guess the 'skip' could be something wrong with my computer.

ps. what does 'AFAIK' mean? sorry, i'm almost computer illiterate.

Zaphod
3rd Aug 2002, 20:24
AFAIK = As Far As I Know.

Saba
4th Aug 2002, 04:18
Stupid! No wonder he was confused! As Far As I Now is AFAIN, not AFAIK!!!

Just kidding.