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DarkShadowRage
30th Sep 2014, 17:34
Currently on the steam hub for Final Fantasy XIII we have a global moderator who likes to ban people and be all trigger happy, he also blatantly hates the game in the process. He keeps hate threads alive and locks most positive threads, the steam hub would benefit from official square mods and 3rd party volunteer mods, so please square come over to the steam hub and help moderate the forums.

I am one of the people who is trying to keep it sane, but i got unjustly hit by the trigger happy mod for bumping a thread(Which granted i didn't know it was against the rules but i had no warning thankfully the ban lifts today)
http://i.imgur.com/mN4noQ0.png <--not cool man, i've been trying to be helpful to people on the forums.

However he bans people who disagrees with him and has scared a lot of the users away as well as stopped a bunch of sales with a pinned thread for the Japanese dub.

I also should point out that good informative threads like these:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306861415408/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673573554917/

Don't get pinned while this topic which isn't informative at all is pinned:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673353900563/
Made and pinned by said mod.

This is why we need good mods, topics like that should not be pinned, also this mod is happy throwing out bans left and right even threatened some users that he'll ban them simply cause he doesn't like their attitude, so many innocent users have been banned for no reason and other people are afraid to post in fear of getting banned.

So please square do something about the game's forums, i would volunteer myself as a moderator to help clean things up and pin useful information threads, i have been a moderator for the Rise of the Triad community for a good year and in my 10 years of being on steam i've never been banned for anything, we have a trigger happy and bias global steam moderator and we need square mods to come in and clean up the place as well as third party mods.

So please, help us out square.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/

http://steamcommunity.com/id/DarkShadowRage/ my steam profile if anyone from SE wants to contact me regarding the mess that is the FF13 forums on steam.

Thanks for listening.

Grimoire
30th Sep 2014, 18:11
I'll bring this to our community team's attention, thank you for the heads up, DarkShadowRage!

DarkShadowRage
30th Sep 2014, 18:15
Thank you for taking the time to read it! :)

also an example of said moderator threatening a user and also spamming which is also against the rules:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673563180786/#p2 posts need to be set to 50 per page and it is also on page 2 post #3

A user says this to him:

Originally posted by OMGWTFBBQ:
uhm you bought it anyways...so now you just look like a silly goose? There is a mod prowling around hyper defensive regarding the whole jap "obsession". Is this enough to get me banned from the threads? probably

He responds with:

Keeping up with that attitude I could very well ban you. Otherwise it's only if you break the rules.

Mods should never threaten or start an argument or spam on the forums.

mike_ptbr
30th Sep 2014, 20:36
+1 that mod on ff xiii steam forum works like a troll.

Hope steam and Square-Enix can look on it and peharps even ban that mod troll.

Spirit_Shard
30th Sep 2014, 21:05
I'll bring this to our community team's attention, thank you for the heads up, DarkShadowRage!

Would be awesome if you guys could take a peek over there every once is a while. With all the final fantasy games releasing on Steam the fanbase is growing but community moderators like this Zefar are using it as a ground to abuse their power and trolls run rabid. I've been talking to several people over in the steam FFXIII community, people are genuinely afraid to make posts because of all the hate threads and the moderator I mentioned before who is banning people for even disagreeing with him. Zefar has stated multiple times through-out the forum that he hates FF XIII, stating the 'hate is deserved' and even going far enough to state SE doesn't deserve the sales. Sales have obviously been lost with this whole situation but I feel the problem will extend to future Final Fantasy titles as well if nothing is done. Square has a lot of fans on steam and most of us just want a cool place to chill and talk about the game(s) we love, Steam being a perfect place for this with all its sharing capabilities.

Thank you for bringing attention to it, I don't want the community for a great game to be ruined by an overly vocal few and a corrupted moderator.


As far as Zefar goes, I've tried contacting steam and talked to other community moderators. the community moderators can't do anything for the matter and I have yet to get a response on my reports from over a week ago. I've put together a small document about a few cases, maybe it could be of help to you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_hEwXn1DW65sZdLa6t4H18Sb7FsX0PvMS7Af_ItWdM/edit

>>>>>> Final Fantasy XIII [forums]

<> Some Known banned players <>
Phoenix-san [[ last post "Dont you think, guys?" when creating a thread, "It would be nice to have Kingdom Hearts 1.5/2.5 in Steam as well." no warnings seen. ]]
(shadow) [[ for 'bumping a thread', no warning given ]]
ISOtope [[ banned without a given reason - post being "All I hope is that it scales well to higher resolutions, that we get the PS3 version cutscenes and not the 360 version cutscenes, and hopefully that we can run it at 60FPS.
" ]]

<> Unlocked Threads <>
Why did my post get deleted? [[ Had to be locked by another mod ]]
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306681459721/#p1

<> Aggression Thread Samples <>
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306561843345/
:::: Continually argued with several members and even baited for arguments from the beginning of the thread. Heavily biased and was not afraid to call people names.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673563180786/
:::: Constant harassment of other members and causing arguments, uses spam, and threatens to ban users for disagreeing with him.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306813806232/
:::: Causing arguments

<> Locked <>

Why all the locked threads?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306608834926/
:::: Wasn't locked but it is a post asking about why all the locked threads

Stop doing Hating Posts pls
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673610884180/
:::: A post asking for people to stop hate threads, locked without a given reason.

Ignore the hate. This game is great.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673395761153/
:::: Zefar's Reasoning "You can post a review of the game but insulting everyone who have legit beef with the game isn't the brightest thing to do."

Vanille Mai Waifu Thread
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306602284217/
:::: Was locked within a minute of creation - no explanation given

No no no no no no no no no,WHY!?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306589937087/
:::: Was a hate thread, obviously, but with how any hate threads live on the forum still this lock makes little sense, also no reasoning was given.

Stop Complaining [If you don't like the game then don't buy it]
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937306590891084/
:::: A thread commenting on the amount of hate threads and was generating some discussion, locked without a given reason.

NO OCULUS RIFT SUPPORT = no buy
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673559702976/
:::: Thread commenting on the 10 other threads at the time about 60fps support - none of which got locked, this one was locked without a given reason.

Was the forced 20 hours tutorial removed?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673486967794/
:::: Was generating honest discussion about the length of the tutorial sections of the game, locked suddenly and no reason given.

Are there chinese bought this?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673471831318/
:::: A legitimate question thread about how to start up the game, locked without a given reason.

SE, please increase the price of this game
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673400974761/
:::: Although confusing it spawned some decent discussion, locked without a given reason and when it was at the top of the list.

If you don't like this game that's fine, but we don't need your hate.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673398928023/
:::: A post asking people to stop with the hate threads. Zefar's reasoning, "People are free to voice their opinion about the game. This topic will not solve anything so I'll lock it."

so you can't speak Japanese but you want Japanese audio...
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613936673381426104/
:::: Zefar's Final post, "The "Genius" forgets that there are these things called Subtitles." - was arguing with several members about Japanese audio vs English Audio, locked thread when he was out-numbered.



>>>>>> Steam Community [forums]

how do you become a moderator?
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/828935672838457500/
:::: Zefar's post
:::: "[Originally posted by n3o:
:::: Being a moderator isn't fun anyway.]
::::
:::: That is up to the individual himself to judge. Been plenty of fun times as a Moderator. One of them being the rage you get from users. It has it's plus sides."


Thank you for your time and sorry for such a long post.

DarkShadowRage
30th Sep 2014, 21:25
^That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell, the mod on there is toxic and is ruining the place.

-Mikfail-
1st Oct 2014, 02:11
Dearest Square Enix,

Our community continues to grow daily in the ever growing wake of your FFXIII PC announcement. With 27,263 Members at the time of this message, excitement runs wild with anticipation for our newest arrival. We promise with all of our ♥ to give lightning a proper home & with great satisfaction looking forward to the rest of this saga later. Your leadership is much wanted to guide us through this journey, our community may be at threat with its current moderation. Without your support it lacks the direction & flavor of a strong community. Securing this userbase now will prove to be fruitful now & with later releases.

It is with high hopes we look forward to your future embrace & more so for the story of a prince who can see the light. :cheek:

DarkShadowRage
2nd Oct 2014, 14:51
Originally posted by Zefar:
Can't wait to see people to fall for this and then come back to ask how someone can praise FF13 as much as you. But whatever, praise it like it's the best game in the world.

Bit fun to see someone use expertly and perfectly on character related content in this game. Boy are they in for a treat.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937942881200622/

Yeah something needs to be done about this guy SE, this is just unacceptable for a moderator.
PLEASE, give me moderator abilities on the hub for steam so i can help clean up trash like this.

mike_ptbr
2nd Oct 2014, 15:03
Originally posted by Zefar:
Can't wait to see people to fall for this and then come back to ask how someone can praise FF13 as much as you. But whatever, praise it like it's the best game in the world.

Bit fun to see someone use expertly and perfectly on character related content in this game. Boy are they in for a treat.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/292120/discussions/0/613937942881200622/

Yeah something needs to be done about this guy SE, this is just unacceptable for a moderator.
PLEASE, give me moderator abilities on the hub for steam so i can help clean up trash like this.
Man, why this troll is a moderator :(

Hope Square_Enix and Valve can ban that moderator from Steam.

DarkShadowRage
2nd Oct 2014, 15:05
It's really unacceptable behavior even for a global moderator, he's derailing threads, throwing out flame bait, defaming the game, pretty much everything you're not supposed to do and it's getting really annoying really fast.

Something HAS to be done about this.