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Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 13:31
Hi everyone!

In today's patch (August 27th) we're retiring our current "Class" banners (Turelim, Red Sisters, Razielim, etc), and will be adding new Animated versions into the store. These new animated banners will be available to purchase in the store once we're out of maintenance mode, and when equipped will show an animated effect in the in-game lobby. They're a great way of personalising your profile a bit, and showing off your favourite class!

And here's an extra bit of great news. For anyone that has previously purchased one of the previous (static) class banners, we'll be awarding those players with the new animated version of that banner for free as a gesture of goodwill! :)
So for instance, if you bought the Zephonim (Deceiver) banner in the store previously, you'll get the animated version added to your inventory for free!

Please note, due to a hiccup your old static banners will be replaced by these animated ones (rather than adding to your total). We'll be fixing this and awarding the static ones to everyone that previously purchased them, next week.

Here are the new animated banners in action:




Clan Razielim (Sentinel)
http://i.imgur.com/BfVHOe8.gif


Clan Turelim (Tyrant)
http://i.imgur.com/u5Xs4Ve.gif


Clan Zephonim (Deceiver)
http://i.imgur.com/zTZQA5w.gif


Clan Dumahim (Reaver)
http://i.imgur.com/yUlHVsj.gif


Clan Melchahim (Summoner)
http://i.imgur.com/svAzvhp.gif


The Watchers (Scout)
http://i.imgur.com/PnuUH6x.gif


Ironguard (Hunter)
http://i.imgur.com/9ncY6wc.gif


Red Sisters (Alchemist)
http://i.imgur.com/WtuorSV.gif


The Drowning Men (Vanguard)
http://i.imgur.com/20m2kDN.gif


Lost Seers of Avernus (Prophet)
http://i.imgur.com/DM0KKPm.gif






If you previously purchased a static Class banner, please note your new animated ones will be awarded during today (August 27th). Check back in your inventory later on today for your new player banner(s)!

Vampmaster
27th Aug 2015, 13:34
Awesome! I just got the remaining vampire banners the other day. The Melchahim one looks a bit plain compared to the others though.

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 14:04
Checking that now as I believe we updated it with another one.

Zombiekatze
27th Aug 2015, 14:56
Wow I... uhm, really prefer the old static Razielim, Turelim and the Avernus banners. That's really a mood changer.
I have a hard time figuring out what the Razielim animation is supposed to be, a stamp machine?

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 15:09
Wow I... uhm, really prefer the old static Razielim, Turelim and the Avernus banners. That's really a mood changer.

If you already have the static ones, you'll keep those, too. They're only being removed from the store for purchase, and not from accounts or anything like that.

The Razielim effect is a bit like a wing flap :)

enkaku-silence-
27th Aug 2015, 15:12
Are there any plans to animate the other banners aswell? For example Alpha, Matchmaking Wars, Free Weekend, Capture the Body, League, etc.?

Zombiekatze
27th Aug 2015, 15:15
If you already have the static ones, you'll keep those, too. They're only being removed from the store for purchase, and not from accounts or anything like that.

That's good to hear then, just a shame you didn't announce this somehow, I should've grabbed the old Razielim one.

Mel_sin
27th Aug 2015, 15:23
"A teeny tiny bit with a lot of imagination behind it" like a wing flap - I honestly don't see a wing flap, only a stompy thing which doesn't fit with the Clan at all. :/ But I can link the animations of the other banners to their respective abilities.
And the Prophet one kind of doesn't go with the flow of the others with that quick and fairly random animation, while the Turelim one reminds me a whole lot of the Evolved Zephonim one with that spazzing.
Other than that, they really look pretty nice, lots of good ones.

I am a bit sad that the static ones get removed without any prior notice, though. Was waiting for a Runestone voucher to buy some RS and get a few of the other banners. Guess I'll save my money then. Glad we get to keep the static ones at least.

Lobbies from now on will have a lot of wiggling and spazzing, I suppose... Not too sure how to feel about that.

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 15:44
Please note, due to a hiccup your old static banners will be replaced by these animated ones (rather than adding to your total). We'll be fixing this and awarding the static ones to everyone that previously purchased them, next week. For now, you'll have an animated version in place of your static banner.

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 16:09
Images have now been updated with the newer (actual) Melchahim and Zephonim banners :)

Melchahim:
http://i.imgur.com/svAzvhp.gif

Zephonim:
http://i.imgur.com/zTZQA5w.gif

Vampmaster
27th Aug 2015, 16:12
Images have now been updated with the newer (actual) Melchahim and Zephonim banners :)

Melchahim:
http://i.imgur.com/svAzvhp.gif

Zephonim:
http://i.imgur.com/zTZQA5w.gif

That's a lot better. The Deceiver is pretending to be a Vanguard, lol.

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 16:13
Are there any plans to animate the other banners aswell? For example Alpha, Matchmaking Wars, Free Weekend, Capture the Body, League, etc.?

I'm afraid there's no plan to do this across the board.

Saikocat
27th Aug 2015, 16:14
That's a lot better. The Deceiver is pretending to be a Vanguard, lol.

Indeedy! The Deceiver one is my favourite :D

Arydious
27th Aug 2015, 16:19
As a future note, I think a warning of upcoming store changes would be nice, and also include in the patch notes that with the addition of banners being added all animated banners cost 1000 runestones. Finding out just by looking in the store make it look shady.

On a side note, while I personally think 1000 runestones is a lot for a banner, I think many of them look very nice now.

Louves
27th Aug 2015, 16:24
I would appreciate if you could make an announcement before you take something out of the store. I wanted to buy the Tyrant banner this week but now...well if I only bought it yesterday :(

Also I am sure somebody put a lot of effort into making those banners but... the Prophet banner does not look that great. It looks like some badly made 3D tentacles and it's just strange when you compare it to the other banners. Something more...subtile would fit the game better.

On the other hand I love the Hunter, Alchemist and Vanguard banners.

Mel_sin
27th Aug 2015, 16:30
I actually liked the Zephonim banner before it spazzed into the Vanguard one. It looked nice and simple and fit (most of) the rest. The Melchahim one is nice, even though the 'explosion' is a bit too intense for my liking.

I am pretty much disappointed by this point with a lot of these. Such a shame, they had such great potential to be super fancy banners.

Zombiekatze
27th Aug 2015, 16:31
I will add the Zephonim one to my list of disliked banners, sorry I really prefer the simple versions that actually made me think of clan banners.

To say at least something positive about this, the Vanguard banner is probably my favourite, simple and fitting.

NinetailNala
27th Aug 2015, 18:05
Hold on, so it IS actually normal for the Zephronim banner to turn into the Drowning Men and the Ironguard Banner occasionally? Oo

Am I missing something here? xD

GenFeelGood
27th Aug 2015, 18:10
Awesome, I love what you did to my Drowning Men and Melchahim banner, thank you :thumb:

Ysanoire
27th Aug 2015, 18:29
I really wish I knew about this change, I might have gotten more static banners.

To be totally honest, while most of these look pretty cool, I can foresee the constant flickering pissing me off in the lobby. The deceiver banner animation is already pretty annoying.

I also dislike that they are more pricey and the cheaper versions are being removed from the store. It may seem like an upgrade to you, but I think there's a lot of people who'd rather have a choice.

i didn't have a chance to see what a lobby full of these would look like as I got put into a game in progress and I gave up.

GenFeelGood
27th Aug 2015, 19:00
Hold on, so it IS actually normal for the Zephronim banner to turn into the Drowning Men and the Ironguard Banner occasionally? Oo

Am I missing something here? xD

It's kind of a nod to the disguise aspect of clan Zephonim's Deceiver class.

PencileyePirate
27th Aug 2015, 19:42
The Zephonim one is pretty cool, but the 'disguise' alternates much too quickly in-game (not visible in the gif.)

... that flashing is going to give someone a seizure.

lucinvampire
27th Aug 2015, 21:53
Very cool to see some new funky banners! :D
<3 banners are awesome :p


Please note, due to a hiccup your old static banners will be replaced by these animated ones (rather than adding to your total). We'll be fixing this and awarding the static ones to everyone that previously purchased them, next week. For now, you'll have an animated version in place of your static banner.

Thank you for clarifying, I'm glad we'll still get to keep our static banners too! :D



... that flashing is going to give someone a seizure.
Nosgoth seizure banners :lol: earlier I was playing and Capt had the Zephonim and I had the Turelim one...it was too much so I had to change mine.

Gugulug5000
28th Aug 2015, 03:52
I like a lot of them, but a few are meh to me (the Razieliem and Turelim ones in particular). Why not just sell both static and animated banners in the store (for different prices of course)? That way if people don't care for the animation, they can still get a banner of the class that they like. Also, since so many banners are being modified, why not do a modification of the alpha banner? It's one of the most exclusive banners, but is one of the most boring ones.

EDIT: What about adding a toggle feature to turn the animations on or off?

Zombiekatze
30th Aug 2015, 18:41
Lil' nitpicky thing, unlike the Turelim banner in the post up there, the one ingame has that flow animation go even past the torn end.
Seems not intended.

MuShYRoOM
1st Sep 2015, 16:19
EDIT: What about adding a toggle feature to turn the animations on or off?

I like this idea, turning on/off the animation by clicking the little video symbol for example.

PencileyePirate
2nd Sep 2015, 20:31
I received my static banners today and they're not the same as the originals ... if you're not going to give us the banners that we purchased then it would be nice to get runes refunded for these, because I don't want them.

P.S. Why change them at all? They were fine before, now they look like a bad gif of the animated version.

lucinvampire
3rd Sep 2015, 11:44
I received my static banners today and they're not the same as the originals ...

They are not the same????? I didn't bother to look at mine as I just assumed we were just getting the same ones put back on our accounts...not amused right about now.

PencileyePirate
3rd Sep 2015, 23:28
They are not the same????? I didn't bother to look at mine as I just assumed we were just getting the same ones put back on our accounts...not amused right about now.

Nope, they're now more blurry and have any added animation FX frozen in place.

kLauE187
3rd Sep 2015, 23:50
Nope, they're now more blurry and have any added animation FX frozen in place.
i looked into them and yeah, all unanimated banner look worse than before. wtf :x

Zombiekatze
4th Sep 2015, 08:19
While I can't confirm the quality issue for my banners at least, this whole mess made me look into some details and I noticed the banners shown on the left (human) side of the lobby always were, and still are, more blurry.

Saikocat
8th Sep 2015, 11:49
The static banners should be the same as the original ones. Let me check on this with the team!

Saikocat
8th Sep 2015, 16:29
Nope, they're now more blurry and have any added animation FX frozen in place.

Do you have a screenshot of one you had before? I just took a look in-game and compared them to the screenshots we uploaded when the initial banners were done, to check for a difference but the old banners had an effect on them as well:
http://imgur.com/a/MmvVd

We'll check into it further

Blackdeathteal
17th Sep 2015, 01:04
I was really hoping some of the original founder pack banners would get some love like the Vampire or human ones , granted they are rare in play today but still hopeful for one day.

Ygdrasel
28th Sep 2015, 07:15
Indeedy! The Deceiver one is my favourite :D

Any particular reason it's disguised as the Vanguard? Gotta say, I never cared for the Vanguard banner so I'm torn...Like a banner. The Prophet one is cool but too cartoony. Could use touching up on that aspect.

A few are just kinda...Dull. Melchahim banner is just a random swirling effect, doesn't bring them to mind at all. Razielim...Might as well be static as boring as that is. You could've done something to hint at Raziel's realm-shifting or something...But nah, just have the banner get slightly longer? Bad miss. XD

The human faction ones are pretty good, all using effects related to the faction...

Lomonop
28th Sep 2015, 09:34
Any particular reason it's disguised as the Vanguard? Gotta say, I never cared for the Vanguard banner so I'm torn...Like a banner.
In the lobby it also disguises as different banners, I'm not sure why the animation posted on the forums is so short that it doesn't. The problem (IMO) with the fact that it disguises as al these different banners in a too short amount of time is that it's a bit too hectic, especially since the banners look very different. I like the idea, but it could do with an animation that is at least twice as long.

Ygdrasel
28th Sep 2015, 18:34
In the lobby it also disguises as different banners, I'm not sure why the animation posted on the forums is so short that it doesn't. The problem (IMO) with the fact that it disguises as al these different banners in a too short amount of time is that it's a bit too hectic, especially since the banners look very different. I like the idea, but it could do with an animation that is at least twice as long.

Why is hectic a negative? Deceivers should be hectic. I'm still mostly just annoyed that banners remain nothing but eye candy in the lobby. XP