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Psyonix_Corey
13th Aug 2014, 15:49
Party System

Disabled new Party Server for now while we investigate issues with it. The old Party System has been reactivated.
It is important to note that the "old" system is dependent upon Steam connections between players and is not flawless (the entire reason we built a replacement system). You may still have difficulties but the old system did work more reliably for a large segment of players.

Boosters

Fixed bug preventing Boosters from equipping correctly that caused players to not receive the correct XP and Gold bonuses.

Hunter

Grenade damage reduced to 500 (was 550), radius reduced to 525 (was 600)
Sticky Grenade damage reduced to 450 (was 500)

UI

Message of the Day will only show as unread if it the message has not been viewed previously
Fixed a bug causing tooltips to sometimes display off-screen
Fixed a bug with chat box getting stuck.

Optimization

"Low" Details setting now disables video settings more aggressively for better performance gains.
The Fane has received an optimization pass for users on "Low" and "Medium" Details settings.
Video Settings may reset as a result of these changes, our apologies for the inconvenience.

Options

Fixed a bug causing FOV and Max FPS Settings to not save.
For advanced users until UI support is added:

Exposed "bOneFrameThreadLag" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bUseMouseSmoothing" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bSmoothFramerate" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini

Bugs

Fixed an issue causing vampire melee sounds to be too loud.
User Status is now only checked once when the game boots to verify access to the Beta. This should fix or reduce the problems players were seeing over the weekend with "Failed to retrieve User Status..." errors.


Known Issues
We are still urgently looking into the following issues:

"Ghost" Players causing 4v3 games
"No Servers Available" matchmaking error for some users when servers are up
Some players getting randomly or consistently disconnected from servers
Some players being unable to connect to Online Suite
Matches not starting when lobby appears full

Phytik
13th Aug 2014, 15:53
When does the patch arrive so we can start playing again ?

MasterZtark
13th Aug 2014, 15:54
Thanks Corey!

Tholur
13th Aug 2014, 16:06
When does the patch arrive so we can start playing again ?

Soonᵀᴹ

DeathMetalMarine
13th Aug 2014, 16:12
Awesome! Thanks for the booster fix and everything else. :thumb:

FireWorks_
13th Aug 2014, 16:17
Now this sounds awesome! Hunter, UI, Settings! Good one :)

Will we see end round chat in the next patch?

Did the boosters get reset as mentioned in the ingame message?

Prime_Abstergo
13th Aug 2014, 16:24
"Low" Details setting now disables video settings more aggressively for better performance gains.
The Fane has received an optimization pass for users on "Low" and "Medium" Details settings.

At last. Thank you!

Also so needed nerf to grenades has arrived at last.

And the most important thing - parties! Do they work now?

Armdevil
13th Aug 2014, 16:24
Thanks Corey :)

Louves
13th Aug 2014, 16:25
Thanks Corey!
Hope we can now play with our friends again :)

Rustux
13th Aug 2014, 16:26
When are servers up

FireWorks_
13th Aug 2014, 16:31
When are servers up

Usually withing 2hours. But you never know as bugs may arise etc. It has a reason they dont post an ETA.

AreZee
13th Aug 2014, 17:02
Known Issues
We are still urgently looking into the following issues:

"Ghost" Players causing 4v3 games


Noooo, I really like the challenge of 3vs4 games!!111 :cool:

much score. very balance. wow

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/LHe81t5.png" height="600" width="960">

/sarcasm off :naughty:

Torxed
13th Aug 2014, 17:08
How long does normally a maintenance take?
Because the server status says the servers are up, the patch has been applied..

So i understand it's a maintenance, what bothers me is all the statuses saying the game should be running..

ETA? Blogpost? Update your websites? Anything is better than nothing, these small things bugs the crap out of at least me.

Tsugirai
13th Aug 2014, 17:10
*cries
I wanna play! When is the maintenance ending?
*sobs

Shikei001
13th Aug 2014, 17:11
Party System

Disabled new Party Server for now while we investigate issues with it. The old Party System has been reactivated.
Yeay *_* finally playing with friends again xDDDD


Hunter

Grenade damage reduced to 500 (was 550), radius reduced to 525 (was 600)
Sticky Grenade damage reduced to 450 (was 500)
Oh... oh... Nade is no longer OP xD so sad... but needed :D good work on that ;)



UI

Message of the Day will only show as unread if it the message has not been viewed previously
Thank you, thank u sooooo much *_* I clicked it every time because it annoyed me xDDDD



Optimization
Bugs

Fixed an issue causing vampire melee sounds to be too loud.
User Status is now only checked once when the game boots to verify access to the Beta. This should fix or reduce the problems players were seeing over the weekend with "Failed to retrieve User Status..." errors.

The first is awesome :D (another thing that drove me mad xD)
And the second sounds promising :D

Good job on that Fixes :D
Thank you Psyonix and keep up the good work :worship:

Edit: @Torxed just look on Twitter they mostly Update the informations there ;)
https://twitter.com/nosgoth

LoukaN
13th Aug 2014, 17:20
Thanck you about working on your game, but if you want to be more pro you can :
- Prevent one day before when your server are offline for maintenance
- Dont doing marketing when your party system (for a team based game) is broken

- Give more information for people who paid to play a full broken game (crash after each game, game only 3v4, cannot play in party..)

I hope you are going to fix this game because you make a ******* good work, but currently its look like a pre alpha ..
If you are recruiting developper tell us !

Torxed
13th Aug 2014, 17:21
Edit: @Torxed just look on Twitter they mostly Update the informations there ;)
https://twitter.com/nosgoth

Cheers mate! :D

LoukaN
13th Aug 2014, 17:25
I think i had miss something, where Nosgoth is talking about this maintenance ?

Woehean
13th Aug 2014, 17:30
- Give more information for people who paid to play a full broken game

Dude, its says "Early Access" and "Closed Beta" for a reason. ^^

You officially owe these forums a /facepalm for being stupidly negative.

Armdevil
13th Aug 2014, 17:34
Dude, its says "Early Access" and "Closed Beta" for a reason. ^^

You officially owe these forums a /facepalm for being stupidly negative.

this

LoukaN
13th Aug 2014, 17:38
Dude, its says "Early Access" and "Closed Beta" for a reason. ^^

You officially owe these forums a /facepalm for being stupidly negative.

Closed Beta mean Staff dont have to warn about Maintenance ?
When you are a professionnel and you want to success your business, you can work good or bad, and here its bad.
Nosgoth team share lot of key in Gamecons and other event, lots of Streamer talking about Nosgoth on Twitter and the game is currently offline, that's not professionnal, but nevermind, its stupidly negative..

When you start a marketing way to bring lot of people on your game, the first step is to got a Game which is working...
I think the Nosgoth leader team is irritated about it, but the Community Manager have to ask the developper team how many time this maintenance gonna take to inform the community. Is a fact..

Psyonix_Eric
13th Aug 2014, 17:40
Closed Beta mean Staff dont have to warn about Maintenance ?
It was announced.
https://twitter.com/Nosgoth/status/499580840201158656

13th Aug 2014, 17:40
What about the glitch where reavers can break bolas?

Tsugirai
13th Aug 2014, 17:42
What about the glitch where reavers can break bolas?

Reavers can break Bolas? How? O_o

Also, I have a feeling I won't be playing this game today. -.-'

LoukaN
13th Aug 2014, 17:43
It was announced.
https://twitter.com/Nosgoth/status/499580840201158656
Yeah thx perfect.

In future, i have to check the forum for patch note, website for server status, twitter for maintenance ?
Its right ? :)

SergeOvD
13th Aug 2014, 17:47
Gj devs.

AreZee
13th Aug 2014, 17:54
What about the glitch where reavers can break bolas?

isn't it the normal interaction of shadowstep? never thought of it as glitch...

Psyonix_Eric
13th Aug 2014, 17:54
In future, i have to check the forum for patch note, website for server status, twitter for maintenance ?
Its right ? :)
Twitter or Facebook are usually the best places to check for maintenance updates.

The game is still very much so in closed beta, which means that often times we'll need to take the servers down rather unexpectedly. We know that this can be frustrating to players and we will continue to do our best to be vocal about what's going on, but sometimes we need to go into maintenance mode quickly. If it's planned to be an extended downtime we will usually know about it (though not always) and will do our best to let people know. All we can ask is that people understand that sometimes thinks don't always go according to plan, but we will try to let people know what is going on.

Patch notes are always posted on the forums. Sometimes the game will go into maintenance mode for a patch and the patch notes won't be put up beforehand, but this is usually because we're still going through and writing them up.

LoukaN
13th Aug 2014, 18:01
Oh thx Great answer your a the boss :)

Rago600
13th Aug 2014, 18:05
I never understood why my Booster┬┤s dont working sometime┬┤s, great infor for my Money ^^ Really.

Another Thing i still like Nosgoth from Alpha until now.
May i ask, there was one Match and i had Booster x2,25 this happen only one Time.
How can this be ? I did not had a Booster Activated, at that Time.
I know 0,25 can come from Teammates.

Sorrowgate
13th Aug 2014, 18:09
Will the optimization changes help my friend? The problem he has is every couple of games (or on Provance strangely enough) there's a good chance that Nosgoth will crash because he runs out of video memory.

AreZee
13th Aug 2014, 18:10
...
May i ask, there was one Match and i had Booster x2,25 this happen only one Time.
How can this be ? I did not had a Booster Activated, at that Time.
I know 0,25 can come from Teammates.

Maybe there where more teammates with immortal founder pack? I don't know if they are additive, but 2x immortal founder booster would be 2x 0.5 and the 0.25 would be from another team booster? just guessing...

RazielWarmonic
13th Aug 2014, 18:20
Hunter

Grenade damage reduced to 500 (was 550), radius reduced to 525 (was 600)
Sticky Grenade damage reduced to 450 (was 500)

Will have to play around with this; not opposed to it at all, aside from the radius nerf (maybe). Will test.


Optimization

"Low" Details setting now disables video settings more aggressively for better performance gains.
The Fane has received an optimization pass for users on "Low" and "Medium" Details settings.
Video Settings may reset as a result of these changes, our apologies for the inconvenience.

Wooo! Fane optimization! Hopefully I won't drop down to 30fps by the time the match is over!



Options

Fixed a bug causing FOV and Max FPS Settings to not save.
For advanced users until UI support is added:

Exposed "bOneFrameThreadLag" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bUseMouseSmoothing" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bSmoothFramerate" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini

Yes; Yes; Yes; YES! Thank you for these temporary fixes Corey. We really appreciate it. It means a lot to us knowing you are reading and taking our feedback. :)

EDIT; Quick question, since there is "bEnableMouseSmoothing" in the BCMPInput, does the "bUseMouseSmoothing" in the BCMPUserProfile override that one?

mizzle111
13th Aug 2014, 18:33
I am still have a problem with immortal booster. I can place it in booster cell but i can't activate it(activate question did't come). Another booster works fine.

lucinvampire
13th Aug 2014, 18:44
Party System
Disabled new Party Server for now while we investigate issues with it. The old Party System has been reactivated.


http://31.media.tumblr.com/d1dbf774e060e67baf942451b6738221/tumblr_mv0nxzWoh01s2589qo1_500.gif

That means I should be able to play with friends easier again...
...though I can't wait for the proper one to function and be live - it sounds so nice from the blog!

nforcer89
13th Aug 2014, 18:45
PARTY SYSTEM STILL DOESNT WORK.
My friend invites me than start.. and after searching Ive got an error "servers offline"
WELL DONE!

Tsugirai
13th Aug 2014, 18:48
So now I am getting random disconnects... Great. Just great.

Ronanni
13th Aug 2014, 19:15
The game keeps crashing after the update. might be me since i am a noob, but it did't crash befor. i manage to play for 30 mins and boom crash. (this will however be speeded up if i tab down. if i am down tabbed for more then 5 mins insta crash)


PARTY SYSTEM STILL DOESNT WORK.
My friend invites me than start.. and after searching Ive got an error "servers offline"
WELL DONE!

I had the same earlier today. i think instead of saying "cant find a lobby" it says servers offline, keep serching and you will get there eventually

Tsugirai
13th Aug 2014, 19:23
Well, the game is unplayable as of now. Will come back tomorrow to see of anything's improved. What a letdown... :(

MarcusGraves
13th Aug 2014, 19:58
sad the constant booting pre and post matches aren't fixed yet, looks like im off to play infinite crisis with my friends for another two weeks.

Shikei001
13th Aug 2014, 21:02
So I played now a bit more than 2 hours... and I'm very pleased with the fact that I can play with friends again and even be able to search for lobbys xD

But one thing I noticed:
Message of the Day will only show as unread if it the message has not been viewed previously I don't know if I understood it wrong, but I thought u ment the little envelope on the upper screen...
If I'm right... the fix sadly didn't worked, because it still shows the orange "!" after every match...
If I understood it wrong don't worry it's not that important ;)

All the other Fixes seems to work good :D
Thx Psyonix and keep up the good work :worship:

Btw. the Nade nerf seems reasonable :)

TheAntiHick
13th Aug 2014, 21:13
Parties are still completely broken. Out of the 20 or so attempts to party up that I just made, only 2 worked. And out of those two successful parties, one ended up with me being booted with the "No Servers Available" message while my friend got into a game, and the other ended up with both of us in different lobbies.

Seems like this is happening to several people. http://www.reddit.com/r/nosgoth/comments/2dgqcm/playing_with_friends_still_isnt_working/

This is getting incredibly depressing.

malgaa
13th Aug 2014, 21:25
Options

Fixed a bug causing FOV and Max FPS Settings to not save.
For advanced users until UI support is added:

Exposed "bOneFrameThreadLag" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bUseMouseSmoothing" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini
Exposed "bSmoothFramerate" setting in BCMPUserProfile.ini

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Tried setting Max FPS at maximum but the slider keeps coming back to 120, although FPS seem to be capped to around 145. Is it working for anyone?

"bSmoothFramerate" brings my FPS down from 145 to 22, anyone?

Psyonix_Corey
13th Aug 2014, 21:33
Tried setting Max FPS at maximum but the slider keeps coming back to 120, although FPS seem to be capped to around 145. Is it working for anyone?

"bSmoothFramerate" brings my FPS down from 145 to 22, anyone?

bSmoothFramerate causes me FPS problems at home as well. Not sure what the interaction is there, but some it benefits some users apparently. Doesn't hurt anything on my work PC.

I've gotten FPS over 200 here with MaxFPS increased, but I may have been using INI for that. Can you try changing the MaxSmoothedFPS value in your INI insetad of using the slider and see if there's a difference?

Psyonix_Corey
13th Aug 2014, 21:39
Parties are still completely broken. Out of the 20 or so attempts to party up that I just made, only 2 worked. And out of those two successful parties, one ended up with me being booted with the "No Servers Available" message while my friend got into a game, and the other ended up with both of us in different lobbies.

Seems like this is happening to several people. http://www.reddit.com/r/nosgoth/comments/2dgqcm/playing_with_friends_still_isnt_working/

This is getting incredibly depressing.

I'm sorry you're having trouble. The old system does have issues for some players. This was known, but in general the consensus was that getting a system that worked well for the majority back in was an upgrade over the new system that was inconsistent for most everybody.

We've outlined our roadmap for eliminating all these issues on the blog and elsewhere but it will take some time to get right. We will definitely announce it on Twitter, Reddit, and elsewhere when everything is sorted but it may be some time before it's smooth sailing for everybody. If it's too frustrating right now, I would advise you to give it a few weeks and check back.

malgaa
13th Aug 2014, 21:42
bSmoothFramerate causes me FPS problems at home as well. Not sure what the interaction is there, but some it benefits some users apparently. Doesn't hurt anything on my work PC.

I've gotten FPS over 200 here with MaxFPS increased, but I may have been using INI for that. Can you try changing the MaxSmoothedFPS value in your INI insetad of using the slider and see if there's a difference?


MaxSmoothedFrameRate=250.000000 on BCMPUserProfile.ini.

Tried setting it higher but didn't change anything.

Psyonix_Corey
13th Aug 2014, 21:44
MaxSmoothedFrameRate=250.000000 on BCMPUserProfile.ini.

Tried setting it higher but didn't change anything.

Do you have VSync on?

malgaa
13th Aug 2014, 21:47
Do you have VSync on?

It's OFF in ingame settings but I just changed this:

UseVsync=False in BCMPSystemSettings.ini and can get up to 220-230 FPS now, that's quite sweet.

I guess the ingame Vsync option is bugged?

Psyonix_Corey
13th Aug 2014, 22:02
It's OFF in ingame settings but I just changed this:

UseVsync=False in BCMPSystemSettings.ini and can get up to 220-230 FPS now, that's quite sweet.

I guess the ingame Vsync option is bugged?

I don't think it's bugged in general, but maybe some weird interaction with toggling it ingame + the INI settings.

GenFeelGood
14th Aug 2014, 01:03
There is bug, that started after this patch, that requires some attention. I am a level 40 player and after my initial match it gets reset to level 1 and keeps resetting after each following match. I still have all my stuff but I have to do New Recruit if I should exit the lobby from the initial match. I haven't found anyone else with this bug but, while I enjoy a good n00b stomping, this is something that must be occurring elsewhere and could ruin the game for the new guys if they are up against experienced player.

Psyonix-Greg
14th Aug 2014, 01:26
A reboot should fix this issue as it's most likely incorrect communication with the system that handles your profile and its contents. We are working with that team in an urgent fashion as this has popped up after the open beta weekend, likely due to increased traffic. Such are the pains of a closed beta. Thanks for bearing with us!

TendrilSavant
14th Aug 2014, 07:26
Optimization

"Low" Details setting now disables video settings more aggressively for better performance gains.
The Fane has received an optimization pass for users on "Low" and "Medium" Details settings.

Overall, I would say the new low settings seem a bit better, but not as good as .ini tweaks I was using before this patch. Also, I seem to not be able to lower the quality of textures in the .ini as much as I could before the patch, was this intentional? I'll be messing with more settings tomorrow to make sure.

Before the patch I was getting solid performance for my setup (a steady 30fps with minor dips). Now I'm back to hovering at 24fps and dipping down to 15fps during combat.

PC Specs:

Pentium Dual-Core E400 2.7GHz
Nvidia GTX 460
8GB RAM

I know I need to update (especially my CPU); but until I can, I'd like to be able to lower texture quality to get decent frame rates.

Floipd
14th Aug 2014, 07:41
NICU

Let's fire this up and see if I can team up with my bro again :D

malgaa
14th Aug 2014, 08:21
Overall, I would say the new low settings seem a bit better, but not as good as .ini tweaks I was using before this patch. Also, I seem to not be able to lower the quality of textures in the .ini as much as I could before the patch, was this intentional? I'll be messing with more settings tomorrow to make sure.

I'm interested on this too.

Nemesis777
14th Aug 2014, 15:16
There is bug, that started after this patch, that requires some attention. I am a level 40 player and after my initial match it gets reset to level 1 and keeps resetting after each following match. I still have all my stuff but I have to do New Recruit if I should exit the lobby from the initial match. I haven't found anyone else with this bug but, while I enjoy a good n00b stomping, this is something that must be occurring elsewhere and could ruin the game for the new guys if they are up against experienced player.
I had that "bug" before the latest updates... when I blocked downloading profile file (changed setting in firewall), it doesn't include humans/vampires statistics and items. If something like this happen because of server or steam issues you need to restart the game, probably if you start playing as "new recruit" the profile will be OVERWRITTEN.


Overall, I would say the new low settings seem a bit better, but not as good as .ini tweaks I was using before this patch. Also, I seem to not be able to lower the quality of textures in the .ini as much as I could before the patch, was this intentional? I'll be messing with more settings tomorrow to make sure.
Of course it was intentional. They have started blocking configuration files in August 4th patch, so most of the changes you have made only to play this game (on some kind of unfamous calculator? ;)) will not work as they should. I guess the new high quality UI wouldn't look good (or even work well) with these .ini tweaks and that was the real reason for updating removing settings. Don't waste your time for editing them again like I already did, the low/medium setting is no more, ceased to be, expired and gone to meet it's maker - THIS IS AN EX-SETTING. :D Nosgoth is the first online game with that unique feature, I mean somehow this game is forcing other people than developers to look inside it - it's indeed very strange "fix" for a UDK engine game.

About the textures: http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/TextureSupportAndSettings.html Yes, the default settings are the largest texture resolutions - with all other (IMHO unnecessary distracting/blinding) effects and a lot of blurr to... hide them. That is why Nosgoth is absolutely precious! :)


Now excuse me, but I'm going to watch some interactive movies which have trully photorealistic graphic effects + choices & consequences.

Psyonix_Corey
14th Aug 2014, 15:57
Overall, I would say the new low settings seem a bit better, but not as good as .ini tweaks I was using before this patch. Also, I seem to not be able to lower the quality of textures in the .ini as much as I could before the patch, was this intentional? I'll be messing with more settings tomorrow to make sure.

Before the patch I was getting solid performance for my setup (a steady 30fps with minor dips). Now I'm back to hovering at 24fps and dipping down to 15fps during combat.

PC Specs:

Pentium Dual-Core E400 2.7GHz
Nvidia GTX 460
8GB RAM

I know I need to update (especially my CPU); but until I can, I'd like to be able to lower texture quality to get decent frame rates.

Texture quality has extremely limited impact on framerate, particularly at the low end of settings you're referencing. We made a few changes on the low end to character and world texture minimums because we were unhappy with the visibility advantages gained by running at 128 resolution textures for those texturegroups. In particular, neither of those texturegroups should have any kind of in-combat perf. hit, which is typically linked to Visual FX particle density.

Some changes did go in from our FX artist to attempt to optimize certain FX - it's possible a change there could have impacted you if he got a setting wrong and you're suddenly seeing smoke FX or something on Low that didn't used to exist.

For testing purposes, would you mind backing up your INI and doing a clean boot, and setting Details to "Low" and checking your framerate? Further, make sure you don't use the "bSmoothFramerate=FALSE" setting in INI, as it has some known issues since the patch added it.

Shikei001
14th Aug 2014, 18:59
O.o Perks and Skins are on Sale *_* is this only since this match ? ._.

TendrilSavant
14th Aug 2014, 18:59
We made a few changes on the low end to character and world texture minimums because we were unhappy with the visibility advantages gained by running at 128 resolution textures for those texturegroups.
What advantages were you seeing? I didn't see any, but then again I wasn't looking for them. I just wanted to be able to aim/melee with less jittering frames.


In particular, neither of those texturegroups should have any kind of in-combat perf. hit, which is typically linked to Visual FX particle density.
I know textures by themselves aren't too taxing on most systems, but lowering them helped my system enough to get a few extra consistent frames.


For testing purposes, would you mind backing up your INI and doing a clean boot, and setting Details to "Low" and checking your framerate? Further, make sure you don't use the "bSmoothFramerate=FALSE" setting in INI, as it has some known issues since the patch added it.
I've been doing clean boots without INI after every patch due to the bug that was stated in the forums. I've also read the bSmoothFramerate problem some are having. Like I said, I'll be testing different setting to see what works for me.

It's not a recent performance hit I'm seeing; I've always had sub-par frames, especially on Sommerdamm (and noe the Fane) even though I meet the recommended system specs provided.

Tefached
14th Aug 2014, 20:44
EDIT: I reinstalled the game to a different directory outside Program Files (x86) and re-enabled UAC. Got the game to work again. I noticed a lot of improvements in the Fane, excellent job Psyonix!

Nemesis777
15th Aug 2014, 18:39
This game requires only standard user privileges, so enabling one of the most annoying Windows features wouldn't affect anything [besides the illusion of safety and security ;)]. Steam and almost all of new games doesn't need to run as administrator under UAC in order to function properly.

Xenonetix
18th Aug 2014, 13:29
Other game stuff that's been changed or added over the past two weeks:

Siege Mode

The Fane map has been added to Siege Mode.
Spawning has been adjusted.

Tutorial

A Sentinel Flying Tutorial has been added to the end of the Tutorial section.

User Interface

All "Badge" items have been updated to be called "Banners" in the inventory.

Graphical Adjustments

The visual effect when your character is on fire has been updated.