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Croftwannbe
3rd Sep 2014, 12:19
like the title say ,if rise of tomb raider come to PC but not PS4 ,is that still a big deal? Playstation owners can still play it on PC which should be fine for everyone. I'm saying this becasue XBOX exclusive games such as Ryse: Son of Rome and Dead Rising 3 will come to PC as well now.

Driber
3rd Sep 2014, 12:23
Playstation owners can still play it on PC which should be fine for everyone.

Huh? How can PS gamers play it on PC if they don't have a (suitable) gaming PC? :scratch:

CroftManiac
3rd Sep 2014, 12:27
You say that because you own a PC right? I own a PC as well , but what about the others?? Those who do not own a PC??? Would it be unfair for them?? I strongly advocate that ROTTR come out on BOTH PC and PS4 . Why should PS4 players deprive of such a wonderful game? When you say ''everyone'' , I think you mean '' It's OK since I have a PC''

IvanaKC
3rd Sep 2014, 12:36
like the title say ,if rise of tomb raider come to PC but not PS4 ,is that still a big deal? Playstation owners can still play it on PC which should be fine for everyone. I'm saying this becasue XBOX exclusive games such as Ryse: Son of Rome and Dead Rising 3 will come to PC as well now.

It's a matter of justice so of course it would be big deal. PC is also a platform. Are you ok with TR being exclusive for any platform? No? :hmm:

a_big_house
3rd Sep 2014, 12:53
It'll still be a pretty bit hit to sales if they don't release on PS4.
I for one won't be able to get a top-notch PC to play Rise, however a PS4 I will.
I mean, I'm getting it on 360 anyway, but in terms of the new consoles, especially so close to the start of their releases, skipping an entire platform would be moderately damaging to not only SE but also Sony :hmm:

Tecstar70
3rd Sep 2014, 13:26
It'll still be a pretty bit hit to sales if they don't release on PS4.
I for one won't be able to get a top-notch PC to play Rise, however a PS4 I will.
I mean, I'm getting it on 360 anyway, but in terms of the new consoles, especially so close to the start of their releases, skipping an entire platform would be moderately damaging to not only SE but also Sony :hmm:

^^ Yep! :thumb:

Elliot Kane
3rd Sep 2014, 13:31
Of course it's still a big deal.

I'm a PC gamer myself, but I don't want my fellow fans who happen to prefer PS to go without, any more than I would want XBox fans to go without.

TR has always been a multi-platform game (PC & PS originally, then growing), has fans on all three platforms, and should be released on all three platforms. The new game is also a sequel to a game that was released on all three platforms, which makes any exclusion worse. That is my only opinion on the matter, and it will not change.

AdeleDazeem
3rd Sep 2014, 13:33
I understand that some people assume that a PC version fixes all, because pretty much all own a PC. Except for the fact not everyone own a proper PC.

Metalrocks
3rd Sep 2014, 13:43
a lot of people have a pc, but how many of them do actually have a power house to play games on it?
so yes, i see this as a problem.

FalloftheTR
3rd Sep 2014, 14:42
Wii U version or bust

Weemanply109
3rd Sep 2014, 17:53
The fact that people think they need a top of the line PC to play games, though... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ab6d3f1c.gif

There's PC gamers who run on Integrated graphics sets and can deal with it. Y'all don't need to shell a penny out if you weren't scammed when you bought your PC (meaning that you didn't overpay for a potato). I lasted with a 7 year old system, It became difficult to player modern titles, but I could still play them nonetheless. I'm pretty sure if you have a recent system you'll be fine. You only need enthusiast machines to max out games with REALLY high resolutions and graphic settings. Y'all don't need that if you're used to console experiences, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

a_big_house
3rd Sep 2014, 18:01
I'm pretty sure if you have a recent system you'll be fine. You only need enthusiast machines to max out games with REALLY high resolutions and graphic settings. Y'all don't need that if you're used to console experiences, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Nope, the laptop I'm currently using is less than a year old and it can't run Sims 4 on min spec, so yeah, false. Also, low blow, but a console experience is the best a console can handle, there's no deviating between two of the same console; meaning at least all console players get the same experience.

DamianGraham
3rd Sep 2014, 18:08
Yes. Yes it is a big deal.

dark7angel
3rd Sep 2014, 18:18
Of course it's still a big deal.

Weemanply109
3rd Sep 2014, 18:40
Nope, the laptop I'm currently using is less than a year old and it can't run Sims 4 on min spec, so yeah, false. Also, low blow, but a console experience is the best a console can handle, there's no deviating between two of the same console; meaning at least all console players get the same experience.

I should have clarified in my first post that I was thinking of desktops (since laptops aren't popular for gaming by comparison), I read that you're off to Uni soon so obviously you may not be able to just take a desktop with you as laptops are more suitable due to their portability (:p) but my point still has a lot of validity. Consoles do guarantee the same experience as each other, but the game is still playable on a variety of different PC's if the PC port is good and Nixxes always does a good job! Infact TR2013 runs better on people's PCs than The Sims 3, tbh. Nixxes continues slaying! :worship:

Anyway, point is that if you have a moderate desktop machine at home or somewhere, you can likely still play the game.

Error96_
3rd Sep 2014, 20:10
like the title say ,if rise of tomb raider come to PC but not PS4 ,is that still a big deal? Playstation owners can still play it on PC which should be fine for everyone. I'm saying this becasue XBOX exclusive games such as Ryse: Son of Rome and Dead Rising 3 will come to PC as well now.

It's better than just on Xbox only as I would probably get the game then but it is still a big deal. TR has had such a heritage on PS consoles and so has built such a fanbase there that it is still wrong if the game doesn't come to PS3 or PS4.

a_big_house
4th Sep 2014, 09:11
I should have clarified in my first post that I was thinking of desktops (since laptops aren't popular for gaming by comparison), I read that you're off to Uni soon so obviously you may not be able to just take a desktop with you as laptops are more suitable due to their portability (:p) but my point still has a lot of validity...


Yes, you should have :rasp:
I could take a desktop, my accommodation provides the space needed for one (a desk) - I just don't have one and even a basic desktop is more than I can afford at this time :rolleyes: #StudentLife :lol:

I agree with your statement and PC games still being playable though, however the example you provide just shows how iffy PC games can be :D

Driber
4th Sep 2014, 10:19
The fact that people think they need a top of the line PC to play games, though... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ab6d3f1c.gif

Take your patronizing attitude and move along Ma chere, you make ze place look elitist.


There's PC gamers who run on Integrated graphics sets and can deal with it. Y'all don't need to shell a penny out if you weren't scammed when you bought your PC

Wow, such ignorance.

Guess what, there are 4 PCs in our household, and NONE of them were able to even run TR9, let alone TR10.

But I guess Nixxes "continuously slaying" will somehow magically make it able to run an even never game on a PC that wasn't able to run the last game, right? RIGHT?


I lasted with a 7 year old system, It became difficult to player modern titles, but I could still play them nonetheless.

PS3 is 8 years old now and I have NO difficulty playing modern titles released on PS3. Xbox 360 is even 9 years old and still going strong.

Once again, the "PCs lasts longer" myth busted.


I'm pretty sure if you have a recent system you'll be fine.

Wrong. I'm not able to run TR10 on any of our PCs. And with me, many others.


You only need enthusiast machines to max out games with REALLY high resolutions and graphic settings.

Straw man argument. No one is complaining because they won't be able to max out resolution and graphic settings.


Y'all don't need that if you're used to console experiences, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Again, ignorance. You can't do a 1:1 comparison of PC graphics and console graphics. Often times you need a higher resolution and a more powerful GPU to have the same experience on a PC than you do with a console.


Nope, the laptop I'm currently using is less than a year old and it can't run Sims 4 on min spec, so yeah, false.

And this right here crushes weeman's argument. A 1 year old laptop PC that can't run a modern game.

Yes, we soooooo need a multi console release. Xbox + PC only is not going to cut it.


(since laptops aren't popular for gaming by comparison)

Plenty of people game on a laptop PC.


I read that you're off to Uni soon so obviously you may not be able to just take a desktop with you as laptops are more suitable due to their portability (:p)

Plenty of people use desktop PCs at uni.

(:p)? Your whole argument was about desktop PCs and now you're razzing ABH for the fact that..... laptops are more portable? Wut :scratch:


but my point still has a lot of validity.

Your point has NO validity, if you have to backpaddle this much.


Anyway, point is that if you have a moderate desktop machine at home or somewhere, you can likely still play the game.

Yeah, and if people can't play the game because their PCs at home aren't powerful / up-to-date enough, they can still likely play the game at work. Offices usually have the latest hardware. Trust me, I'm an expert!

Man, I don't get what people are complaining about a no PS release for - where there's a will, there's always a way! #PCmasterRace

AdeleDazeem
4th Sep 2014, 11:39
The fact that people think they need a top of the line PC to play games, though...

Just saying but:

My old laptop
http://i58.tinypic.com/28l9oav.jpg

My newer 'gaming laptop'
http://i62.tinypic.com/2lm02h1.jpg

As you can see, the first one didn't really capture it. So yeah...

kiadaw
4th Sep 2014, 15:18
No one cares about WiiU!

kiadaw
4th Sep 2014, 16:08
You do not need latest PC, but you do need a decent gaming PC.

The keyword gaming is critical as there is a world of different in performance between a gaming PC, & a non gaming PC.

Also, you know, you can also get an Xbox 1. Just saying. Its a game console, not a high end sport car. I know there are people who can't afford (there is still 360, which should be dirt cheap), but I doubt most people here have issue affording an x1 or at least a used 360.

If you do not want to buy an extra console out of principle, thats your call.

If you do not want to buy a console to play one game (becuase X1 have no other games....), then it shows you do not like Tomb raider enough, in which it shouldn't matters to you.

Driber
4th Sep 2014, 16:59
Also, you know, you can also get an Xbox 1. Just saying. Its a game console, not a high end sport car. I know there are people who can't afford (there is still 360, which should be dirt cheap), but I doubt most people here have issue affording an x1 or at least a used 360.

If you do not want to buy an extra console out of principle, thats your call.

If you do not want to buy a console to play one game (becuase X1 have no other games....), then it shows you do not like Tomb raider enough, in which it shouldn't matters to you.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

Lord Martok
4th Sep 2014, 17:36
If you do not want to buy a console to play one game (becuase X1 have no other games....), then it shows you do not like Tomb raider enough, in which it shouldn't matters to you.

No disrespect, but that makes it sound like you're trying to guilt trip TR gamers into buying a console they clearly don't want to play a game that should be made readily available to all platforms on release. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your point, but on the surface that's what it sounds like. Most TR gamers are not going to be sooooo desperate to get RotTR that they feel they have to plunk down another 400 bucks just to play one 60 dollar title.....even if that game means the world to them. Perhaps you could clarify your point a little bit. :)

These folk have been waiting for RotTR for....well....I guess ever since the release of TR Reborn. And a majority of them now have to wait two to six months, which for many of them is practically an eternity....especially as they now have to sit in anticipation of wondering how the game is going to do in terms of sales and reviews.


Also, what if M$ tries its older practice of "ok, the limited exclusivity deal is about to end, but, since we invested all this money into it, the other console releases cannot come with the same bells and whistles as our Xbpne version."? This is something they used to do before, and now, I can't shake this feeling that they'll try to pull it again....which will not only likely compel the TR gamers to not buy an Xbone still, but foster further resentment by the gamers toward Sqeidos/CD for selling out, and abandoning the majority of the TR fan/gamer base.

DamianGraham
4th Sep 2014, 23:39
I'm really sorry and I hate feeding into the console wars, but c'mon, really guys? The game has been multiplatform for a long while now, why are we reverting to the old days of exclusivity when there's nothing to benefit? I will not and refuse to pay money for a PC/gaming computer that'll more than likely just get a virus and crash anyways, when I could play on a console specifically designed for playing video games. I honestly will be furious if they make it for PC but not PS, which is a growing fear after our dear Mr. Spencer's comparison to the Dead Rising deal, which has only been confirmed for PC. CD tread lightly here, you're walking on thin ice with an already unstable community that YOU have angered... Make good choices, and treat us all right

Driber
4th Sep 2014, 23:45
What do you mean by "the old days of exclusivity", LaraRocks2? :scratch:

DamianGraham
4th Sep 2014, 23:57
What do you mean by "the old days of exclusivity", LaraRocks2? :scratch:

Well, Tomb Raider was once exclusive to Playstation, later for PC (I guess it was a "timed" one as well?) but at the end of the day, it doesn't benefit to be exclusive, unless it is a new IP that 1st party studios develop for consoles, or in the cases similar to Bayonetta where the future was dire, and the ONLY way it could get made would be through being bought out. Tomb Raider wasn't in that boat, it sold fine despite SE's crazy projections. I didn't word things clearly, went on a tiny rant lol

CakeLuv
5th Sep 2014, 00:03
Well, Tomb Raider was once exclusive to Playstation

what about saturn tho

DamianGraham
5th Sep 2014, 02:37
what about saturn tho

Each subsequent sequel got released on Saturn? Cause I don't recall that. And that's the same as with Rise. A sequél becoming exclusive to a different console. The series has done it before, only difference is that today, people actually take notice and care and get upset. 3rd party exclusivity only hurts us (the gamers, and fans) and if people aren't upset by it they only enable the problem to keep happening in my opinion.

Metalrocks
5th Sep 2014, 03:01
im certainly not getting a console either kiadaw.
1. no space for it.
2. i have been a pc gamer for a very, very long time.
3. i dont like the controller + playing a game like this with a controller.

this has nothing to do with liking the game. everyone here have their principles and preferred platform to play on. and as lord mentioned: not everyone here like to spend money for a different platform.

kiadaw
5th Sep 2014, 07:02
http://forums.eidosgames.com/images/icons/icon13.gif


I do not mind a thumbs down, but at least provide some reasons? I think the thumb down is a bit unfriendly without an explaination. Just saying.


No disrespect, but that makes it sound like you're trying to guilt trip TR gamers into buying a console they clearly don't want to play a game that should be made readily available to all platforms on release. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your point, but on the surface that's what it sounds like. Most TR gamers are not going to be sooooo desperate to get RotTR that they feel they have to plunk down another 400 bucks just to play one 60 dollar title.....even if that game means the world to them. Perhaps you could clarify your point a little bit. :)

These folk have been waiting for RotTR for....well....I guess ever since the release of TR Reborn. And a majority of them now have to wait two to six months, which for many of them is practically an eternity....especially as they now have to sit in anticipation of wondering how the game is going to do in terms of sales and reviews.



Also, what if M$ tries its older practice of "ok, the limited exclusivity deal is about to end, but, since we invested all this money into it, the other console releases cannot come with the same bells and whistles as our Xbpne version."? This is something they used to do before, and now, I can't shake this feeling that they'll try to pull it again....which will not only likely compel the TR gamers to not buy an Xbone still, but foster further resentment by the gamers toward Sqeidos/CD for selling out, and abandoning the majority of the TR fan/gamer base.

Well, I am not gulity trip gamers into buying an X1 or 360. I never recommended anyone to get an X1. In fact if ask, I will say get a PS4, which in fact I am mention a couple of time to people. I wasn't gonna to get the X1 myself (not at the moment at least). Hope that answer your question.

Non am I happy with the exclusive decision, because like many here, I wished to get in on a non Xbox platform.

What I am saying is that, there is very little people here that cannot play the game out of financial issue.

Like I mentioned before, you can choose not to buy it because of principle or not wanting an extra console, its someone call (I never said it was the wrong call!)

They can also choose to wait for it to arrived later ( which is probably gonning to happen).

As a matter of fact, I am waiting out PC version. ;)

Maybe its not the best way to present it, but my argument is still valid that if you do not mind missing out the game, you probably do not want it hard enough (which is actually ok).

But like I mentioned, it will probably came out on other platform, at the worst just be patient.


im certainly not getting a console either kiadaw.
1. no space for it.
2. i have been a pc gamer for a very, very long time.
3. i dont like the controller + playing a game like this with a controller.

this has nothing to do with liking the game. everyone here have their principles and preferred platform to play on. and as lord mentioned: not everyone here like to spend money for a different platform.



Fair reasons. I mention everyone have their reasons. I am just saying if anyone absolutely wanted to play Tomb Raider, its possible.

Maybe my very 'direct' answering is feeling like I am lecturing people here or something, but its not. I will be careful with my choice of words in future. :)

I am a getting a bit nuts over people thinking I am a MS mouthpiece or fanboy, or under their payroll LOL. Just to get it off my chest, I am not any of these. If the game came exclusive to PS4, I would have said the same (replacing MS with Sony, & X1 & 360 with PS3 &4) .

a_big_house
5th Sep 2014, 09:00
Psst, Kiadaw would you be so kind as to edit those three posts together? ;)

I totally understand what you're saying, but it's really not as simple as just paying for a brand new console, especially one that (fairly) has a bit of a rocky history :)

Metalrocks
5th Sep 2014, 09:05
yes, your wording did give this impression that we should get a xbone, kiadaw.
but now you clarified it. :thumb:

kiadaw
5th Sep 2014, 09:30
yes, your wording did give this impression that we should get a xbone, kiadaw.
but now you clarified it. :thumb:

My bad, I was posting this in office, so I have to be quick, & probably should have reread before posting. I can see how it may give the wrong impressions.


Psst, Kiadaw would you be so kind as to edit those three posts together? ;)

I totally understand what you're saying, but it's really not as simple as just paying for a brand new console, especially one that (fairly) has a bit of a rocky history :)

X1 is train wreak in Germany, considered 360 relative success here, but thats another story. WiiU was actually the second best selling console, with 1 sold for every 6 PS4 sold, just imagine how well X1 must have sold. Make me feel sorry for them (not the decision makers, but the hardworking engineers & stuff that have nothing to do with the price point, low spec & polices)

I have edit my posts, & add them together as requested.

a_big_house
5th Sep 2014, 10:43
X1 is train wreak in Germany, considered 360 relative success here, but thats another story. WiiU was actually the second best selling console, with 1 sold for every 6 PS4 sold, just imagine how well X1 must have sold. Make me feel sorry for them (not the decision makers, but the hardworking engineers & stuff that have nothing to do with the price point, low spec & polices)

I have edit my posts, & add them together as requested.

Thanks, man (or woman) :D

Yeah, when you think about all the people behind the scenes, it is a little disheartening to think that all their work is being overshadowed by corporate wishwash :hmm:
- But as someone pointed out somewhere, PS4 may be in the lead right now, but new gen is far from being over, things could change drastically down the line :)

Lord Martok
5th Sep 2014, 11:06
They can also choose to wait for it to arrived later ( which is probably gonning to happen).

As a matter of fact, I am waiting out PC version. ;)

Maybe its not the best way to present it, but my argument is still valid that if you do not mind missing out the game, you probably do not want it hard enough (which is actually ok).


Ok.....I had a hunch that that is what you actually meant, but I wanted to make sure. :)

Yeah, I'm not in any great rush or need to get the next Tomb Raider, but I do empathize with those (in the majority with PS or PC platforms) who have waited with bated breath for RotTR. :)

Elliot Kane
5th Sep 2014, 11:45
Well, Tomb Raider was once exclusive to Playstation

Wikipedia lists the original TR as simultaneous release for PS, PC and Saturn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_Raider_(1996_video_game)).

kiadaw
5th Sep 2014, 12:24
Ok.....I had a hunch that that is what you actually meant, but I wanted to make sure. :)

Yeah, I'm not in any great rush or need to get the next Tomb Raider, but I do empathize with those (in the majority with PS or PC platforms) who have waited with bated breath for RotTR. :)

I am upgrading my PC, or rather buying a new one (keeping existing one), & it will be more powerful than next gen consoles. Not playing the PC master race card, but I need a powerful PC as I have some issue to run Unreal Engine 4 (which I just subscribed this Monday.) smoothly.

I experienced an ego bruising message by Unreal editor that said my frame rates are below 20fps 80% of the time in the last 10 minutes, & will automatic switch to low quality mode or something along this line. LOL. I ran some of the sample projects at the marketplace & they were just slow, choppy.

Not to mentioned development 101, you need a significantly more powerful machine for development than the platform(s) you wanted the game to run on.

So it make sense that I buy ROTR on the PC since for sure it will run the best (visuals). Obviously its a preference thing, but I will definitely use the controller. I have a 360 controller for PC so I am set.

Though a bit selfish admittedly, I am disappointed it was also developed for 360 (possibly PS3). I just hope they ultlise a next gen engine for the next gen & PC versions, otherwise, the game will look dated compare to the other big games coming in 2015 Holidays.

Driber
5th Sep 2014, 14:16
Well, Tomb Raider was once exclusive to Playstation, later for PC (I guess it was a "timed" one as well?) but at the end of the day, it doesn't benefit to be exclusive, unless it is a new IP that 1st party studios develop for consoles, or in the cases similar to Bayonetta where the future was dire, and the ONLY way it could get made would be through being bought out. Tomb Raider wasn't in that boat, it sold fine despite SE's crazy projections. I didn't word things clearly, went on a tiny rant lol

Thanks for clarifying what you meant.

Ah, we've had this discussion about the exclusivity myth many times, heh. TR was never an "exclusive". See the link EK provided.

Using your line of reasoning, you could also say that TR9 was excluded from Wii/WiiU, since the previous games were released on that console. But it's not as simple as that.


Each subsequent sequel got released on Saturn? Cause I don't recall that. And that's the same as with Rise. A sequél becoming exclusive to a different console. The series has done it before, only difference is that today, people actually take notice and care and get upset. 3rd party exclusivity only hurts us (the gamers, and fans) and if people aren't upset by it they only enable the problem to keep happening in my opinion.

I don't think you can really compare the Saturn with today's platforms. The Saturn didn't have the same staying power like Nintendo's, Sony's and MS' consoles.


Though a bit selfish admittedly, I am disappointed it was also developed for 360 (possibly PS3). I just hope they ultlise a next gen engine for the next gen & PC versions, otherwise, the game will look dated compare to the other big games coming in 2015 Holidays.

Don't worry, they will :)


I do not mind a thumbs down, but at least provide some reasons? I think the thumb down is a bit unfriendly without an explaination. Just saying.

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as unfriendly. I left only a thumbs down because I thought the objection to what you wrote would be obvious. Plus, I figured that others would respond to your post as well, and voice the same objections I had. Which they did.

But since you clarified what you meant in the meantime, I no longer object to what you wrote :) Well, apart from the "everyone here can afford to buy an xbox" bit, which is simply not true.

Metalrocks
5th Sep 2014, 14:38
My bad, I was posting this in office, so I have to be quick, & probably should have reread before posting. I can see how it may give the wrong impressions.



kein problem. wir alle machen fehler.

know it to well my self when im at work. i type quickly and dont really check what i wrote. i see it later when i get home or when someone points it out. like we did :D

kiadaw
5th Sep 2014, 22:47
kein problem. wir alle machen fehler.

know it to well my self when im at work. i type quickly and dont really check what i wrote. i see it later when i get home or when someone points it out. like we did :D


Google translation? But close enough

Anyway, yap. No biggy.

CakeLuv
6th Sep 2014, 02:42
Each subsequent sequel got released on Saturn? Cause I don't recall that. And that's the same as with Rise. A sequél becoming exclusive to a different console. The series has done it before, only difference is that today, people actually take notice and care and get upset. 3rd party exclusivity only hurts us (the gamers, and fans) and if people aren't upset by it they only enable the problem to keep happening in my opinion.

The released the sequels for pc, there wasn't that much variety lol

BR4DDERS1986
6th Sep 2014, 02:56
Well, Tomb Raider was once exclusive to Playstation, later for PC (I guess it was a "timed" one as well?) but at the end of the day, it doesn't benefit to be exclusive, unless it is a new IP that 1st party studios develop for consoles, or in the cases similar to Bayonetta where the future was dire, and the ONLY way it could get made would be through being bought out. Tomb Raider wasn't in that boat, it sold fine despite SE's crazy projections. I didn't word things clearly, went on a tiny rant lol

Tomb Raider has never been a Playstation Exclusive, It was released on PC (DOS) and Playstation at the same time (NA 14/11/96 EU 22/11/96), the Saturn was the first to get it in Europe (25/11/96), it was released in America on the Saturn at the same time as the PC/PS versions. It was the only time a Tomb Raider game was released on the Saturn though. The sequels were released for PC and Playstation at the same time depending on the region.

The only platforms that had exclusive content btw were PC/Mac/360

Tomb Raider: Unfinished Business - PC/Mac
Tomb Raider II: The Golden Mask - PC/Mac
Tomb Raider III: The Lost Artifact - PC/Mac
Tomb Raider IV: The Last Revelation: The Times Exclusive Bonus Level - PC
Tomb Raider Underworld: Beneath the Ashes - Xbox 360
Tomb Raider Underworld: Lara's Shadow - Xbox 360