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MichaelWalker
13th Jul 2014, 15:50
awwww yeah it works, see post #3


=> my old question


Heyo

Anybody tried getting the turrets out of the sewers? (smash the state quest). I found two exits (ladders), one is way to tall to stack boxes but the other ladder which you have to access via another small ladder seems worth looking into.

So I have managed to stack boxes in front of the small ladder to get the 3 turrets up there, took the crates with me and tried stacking them below the exit.

Now what I am trying is stacking the crates in a way (well, create stairs first) that I could lift the turret on top of the highest crate - right beneath the exit - then climb the ladder and clip/pull the turret through the opening.

However, there seems to be a limit to how high you can stack crates, whenever i try placing the turret on the crate closest to the exit it just messes up the physics and crates go flying everywhere.

Is there an invisible wall that prevents players from smuggling turrets killing everybody in Detroit? Not that I'm trying to achieve such a thing. I'm trying to support the police against the protesters that is all.

http://s13.postimg.org/vmawb0whv/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_17_45_58.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vmawb0whv/)

I have tried "shooting" the turrets through the hole but they too fat :/


I'm hoping somebody can tell me if this is possible at all

Shralla
13th Jul 2014, 19:06
Is there an invisible wall that prevents players from smuggling turrets killing everybody in Detroit? Not that I'm trying to achieve such a thing.

I'm sure there is. There are invisible walls and ceilings all over Human Revolution because the developers couldn't have been any more obvious about not giving a **** about the true tenets of the Deus Ex series. For all their talk of emergent gameplay, there is barely any of it in Human Revolution.

MichaelWalker
13th Jul 2014, 21:27
I'm sure there is. There are invisible walls and ceilings all over Human Revolution because the developers couldn't have been any more obvious about not giving a **** about the true tenets of the Deus Ex series. For all their talk of emergent gameplay, there is barely any of it in Human Revolution.


Ok, came back an hour ago and continued on the save file.....aaaaaand


:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:


http://s17.postimg.org/pl67ul9gb/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_22_56_04.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/pl67ul9gb/)

AAAWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAH

DETROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIT
(I'm so sorry you've been through a lot....)


threw a barrel up there -> no invis wall (:mad2:) -> correct assumption, you can clip through the floor/ceiling if you can stand upright, right below the ceiling. if you then pick up the turret it will place it on the street and you can even move it on that surface.

what helped a lot now in the end and kind of trivialized it (perhaps you can do this in any environment that has these ledges)

http://s27.postimg.org/kkxqjwze7/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_22_55_35.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kkxqjwze7/)

http://s24.postimg.org/vddwxdiip/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_22_53_34.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vddwxdiip/)

then you jump on this here

http://s12.postimg.org/n4gu23ng9/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_22_55_40.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/n4gu23ng9/)

when you pick up the turret it will phase and you should see something like this:

http://s27.postimg.org/daupkzp67/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_22_54_26.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/daupkzp67/)


About what you said though, _I_find human revolution far superior to the original and really experienced exactly the opposite of what you are describing. I only feel like character development, as in augs or perhaps some nice stats, could be a bit more in depth.
Compliments to the developer, might pick it up a second time as I got it for cheap on the steam summer sale :)
Maybe you just remember Deus Ex too fondly like I do with Baldurs Gate but after playing it again...I really don't want to wait for my party to gather anymore and the AI path finding is_horrendous_ .
Don't want to start any arguments about how great an rpg Deus Ex (all parts) is, it's a great game and experience nonetheless .


Now if you excuse me....I'm gonna bring the grey death aka turrets.

I mean, I only stunned one person and they attack me? Not very nice :)

Have a great sunday night everybody!

AdrianShephard
13th Jul 2014, 21:45
HR better than DX 1?



Get outta here...

MichaelWalker
13th Jul 2014, 22:37
yes yes, sacrilege I know. It's as good as DX1 in a more stream lined fashion and for me that's (slightly) better. And it's way more beautiful?

love it when you can break the game like this

http://s23.postimg.org/6v1jxpjdj/Screen_Shot_2014_07_13_at_23_59_35.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6v1jxpjdj/)

http://s28.postimg.org/7jmpoiifd/Screen_Shot_2014_07_14_at_00_10_29.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7jmpoiifd/)

let's see about some other locations for the turret smuggel

AlexOfSpades
13th Jul 2014, 23:39
Oh, so that's what it takes to have fun with that game

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 00:39
And it's way more beautiful?

HR is a cheap whore wearing all her "gold" bling. Deus Ex is a forbidden princess with depths few know ;)

Edit: cheap whore is a bit excessive. HR is still a good game, but it doesn't come close to Deus Ex.

AdrianShephard
14th Jul 2014, 01:29
To me HR was so...bland. There was no interesting story (not enough to make me play the game to find out what happens) and the NPC's were all statues that slid to the ground when scared (failed animation right there). You couldn't even have fun with killing them all as a shot to the foot did the trick. At least Deus Ex 1 had a plot that felt like you could piece together with all of the newspapers/datacubes. Good for you that you're having fun. I haven't touched the game since my 2 playthroughs 2 years ago. And you can thank Xbox Achievements for that because I wanted to max gamerscore that game. Yes...I played HR on a console.

Oh look at me. I'm bashing the game again. EM, take notice.

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 01:35
Yes...I played HR on a console.


Doesn't matter. The only notable difference is the awesome toolbar on PC. They did a far better job bringing Deus Ex to consoles than Ion Storm ever did, but the game itself was simply lacking. It's somewhat understandable for numerous reasons though, but we don't care, we just demand the best of the best, else give up. ;)
Deus Ex is a Looking Glass-born game. Anything in the LGS family tree I expect extremely high quality from. HR was a fine attempt, but ultimately doesn't qualify, fitting nicely alongside Bioshock, Dishonored and Invisible War as the failures of the Immersive Sim.

WildcatPhoenix
14th Jul 2014, 02:08
Deus Ex is a Looking Glass-born game. Anything in the LGS family tree I expect extremely high quality from. HR was a fine attempt, but ultimately doesn't qualify, fitting nicely alongside Bioshock, Dishonored and Invisible War as the failures of the Immersive Sim.

I'd say Bioshock is to System Shock 2 as DX: Human Revolution is to the original Deus Ex. Both Bioshock and DXHR are fun, interesting little games in their own right, good for about 1-2 playthroughs. But neither of them offer enough depth to keep a player coming back time and time again like their predecessors. Both of them present the player with a very watered-down, mainstream-friendly version of older, better games. A lot more gloss, a lot less complexity.

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 02:44
I'd say Bioshock is to System Shock 2 as DX: Human Revolution is to the original Deus Ex. Both Bioshock and DXHR are fun, interesting little games in their own right

I disagree with this in addition to disagreeing with what I just said.

Human Revolution fits nicely alongside Invisible War and Dishonored.














Bioshock however is all the way down here. It barely qualifies as a game.

Ashpolt
14th Jul 2014, 10:34
I'd say Bioshock is to System Shock 2 as DX: Human Revolution is to the original Deus Ex.

Oof, I can't agree with this. As much as I might complain about certain aspects of DXHR, it was a better follow up to its predecessors than Bioshock was. That said, Bioshock didn't pretend to be a direct se/prequel, so doesn't need to be judged by quite such strict standards.

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 12:32
Oof, I can't agree with this. As much as I might complain about certain aspects of DXHR, it was a better follow up to its predecessors than Bioshock was.

Yes.


That said, Bioshock didn't pretend to be a direct se/prequel, so doesn't need to be judged by quite such strict standards.

According to TTLG'ers promises were made, and later broken.

Jito463
14th Jul 2014, 14:45
I wouldn't put Dishonored in the same category as Invisible War. While it was no Deus Ex (or Thief, more accurately, since that was the inspiration), it was a great game in it's own right. I'm curious what exactly you found lacking that makes you so critical of it (any comparison to IW is a slap in the face for most games, heh).

WildcatPhoenix
14th Jul 2014, 14:49
Oof, I can't agree with this. As much as I might complain about certain aspects of DXHR, it was a better follow up to its predecessors than Bioshock was. That said, Bioshock didn't pretend to be a direct se/prequel, so doesn't need to be judged by quite such strict standards.

It wasn't a direct sequel, no, but it was intended to be an "homage to" or "inspired by" the original System Shocks. But it, like DXHR, only resembled its predecessor in a few very basic categories.

With both Bioshock and Human Revolution, at the end of the game I put down the controller and thought, "Hmmm, well, that was mildly entertaining" instead of, "OH MY GOD, I can't wait to play this again!"

Shralla
14th Jul 2014, 17:36
I disagree with this in addition to disagreeing with what I just said.

Human Revolution fits nicely alongside Invisible War and Dishonored.

I would go Dishonored>Human Revolution>Invisible War, with the gap between them being very noticeable indeed.


Bioshock however is all the way down here. It barely qualifies as a game.

I'm no Bioshock fan, but :rolleyes:


I wouldn't put Dishonored in the same category as Invisible War. While it was no Deus Ex (or Thief, more accurately, since that was the inspiration)

It definitely had a lot of Deus Ex in there as well. Not quite equal parts, but if the game had guns instead of blades people would have been making a lot more comparisons to Deus Ex. I thought it "did" Deus Ex better than Human Revolution in a lot of ways.

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 22:43
I'm no Bioshock fan, but :rolleyes:


The **** are you rolling your eyes for?

I've explained before that Bioshock is missing a key component of what makes up a game. The very basics.

AlexOfSpades
14th Jul 2014, 22:56
News just in: "Bioshock isn't a game", says game specialist over the interwebz

CyberP
14th Jul 2014, 23:12
Sensationalist headlines, misinformation... ****ty journalism by AoS.

"Barely qualifies as a game". <- that means it does qualify, understand, Mr. Trashy Journo?
You got the specialist part spot on though ;)

MasterTaffer
14th Jul 2014, 23:20
Play nice.

AlexOfSpades
15th Jul 2014, 03:32
Sensationalist headlines, misinformation... ****ty journalism by AoS.

"Barely qualifies as a game". <- that means it does qualify, understand, Mr. Trashy Journo?
You got the specialist part spot on though ;)

Oh, now you corrected yourself

I actually don't even like Bioshock (couldn't even finish it, so bored i got halfway through). I was just seizing the moment to make fun of you, eheheeheh :3

AdrianShephard
15th Jul 2014, 03:35
I though Bioshock was all right. Some mindless fun that kept me occupied for awhile. Bioshock 1 got boring halfway through though.

CyberP
15th Jul 2014, 04:24
Oh, now you corrected yourself

I actually don't even like Bioshock (couldn't even finish it, so bored i got halfway through). I was just seizing the moment to make fun of you, eheheeheh :3

You're misunderstanding common English or you are trolling. Please point out where I corrected myself and how you were successful in making fun of me.


barely

ˈbɛːli/Submit
adverb
1.
only just; almost not.
"she nodded, barely able to speak"

No worries. Carry on. I'll cut you some slack. Everyone makes mistakes, but if you are going to attempt to make fun of someone make sure you are not failing yourself ;0

AlexOfSpades
15th Jul 2014, 05:37
You're misunderstanding common English or you are trolling. Please point out where I corrected myself and how you were successful in making fun of me.

I'm not, sweetheart.


I've explained before that Bioshock is missing a key component of what makes up a game. The very basics.

If it's missing a key component of what makes it a game, then it's not one until it gets that key component. At least is how i understood. Then laaaater you bring the "barely" part, changing everything. Nevermind, it's just semantics :3

zwanzig_zwoelf
15th Jul 2014, 15:48
bro deus ex human revolution is the best game they limited some of the functions so noobs wont break the game now stop bickering and learn some tact folks i know you are just jealous cuz hr is the best game ever :)

BridgetFisher
15th Jul 2014, 16:50
bro deus ex human revolution is the best game they limited some of the functions so noobs wont break the game now stop bickering and learn some tact folks i know you are just jealous cuz hr is the best game ever :)

I enjoyed the game very much! I really liked it and I even liked Deus Ex the fall, im sad it was so short.

AdrianShephard
15th Jul 2014, 17:40
.....Annnndd then these two show up


;)

zwanzig_zwoelf
16th Jul 2014, 06:34
I enjoyed the game very much! I really liked it and I even liked Deus Ex the fall, im sad it was so short.
bro tell me did you like the hidden plot in deus ex that reveals the romantic relationship between paul and jc :)

besyuziki
16th Jul 2014, 07:27
Isn't being short, like, the single best thing about DX: The Fall?