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CJL94
4th Jul 2013, 02:44
In the TR10 Wishlist, I voted for one option where Lara had advanced high tech gadgets. While choosing that option I thought of a wristbow that shoots arrows and allows Lara to climb up walls and cross large cliffs fast like when she is using the rope ascender, pull heavy things, and swing from ropes. Idk where I got the idea, but I just think it would be a cool gadet to use for combat and climbing. What are some of ideas that you guys have?

Valenka
4th Jul 2013, 03:03
I think we should keep Deus Ex and Tomb Raider separate. :)

CJL94
4th Jul 2013, 04:12
I've never even heard of that game

nevillet
4th Jul 2013, 08:37
Well, I'm for it.
The rope ascender was fine and all, but one of the mechanics I really missed was the rope swinging.

LauriEilsia
4th Jul 2013, 09:15
My idea is a day in three points. I explain : you have to eat at breakfast, lunch and diner. To eat you have to hunt each time. But if they decide to put a place where you put all you have, you won't need to hunt each time, because you will keep the meat in your place. I hope you can understand :).




In the TR10 Wishlist, I voted for one option where Lara had advanced high tech gadgets. While choosing that option I thought of a wristbow that shoots arrows and allows Lara to climb up walls and cross large cliffs fast like when she is using the rope ascender, pull heavy things, and swing from ropes. Idk where I got the idea, but I just think it would be a cool gadet to use for combat and climbing. What are some of ideas that you guys have?

Jurre
4th Jul 2013, 09:39
^ No thanks, really...

I'm not such a fan of high-tech gadgets either - I liked the makeshift equipment - torch, early bow - much better. I also didn't vote for Lara having karate skills or whatever, it's so much better in my opinion that she has to survive on raw determination alone...

But to come up with ideas for tools:

- A machete to clear vegetation that hides the entrance to some interesting place - and to use in dual mode with the climbing axe in melee combat -
- Collecting poison frogs and curare plants to craft arrows that make one-hit kills.
- A fishing rod...? I don't know, maybe there can be some kind of fishing minigame to collect extra salvage? :D
- When swimming - assuming there will be swimming - she could use a heavy rock to sink faster and release it when going back up.

DrCroft
4th Jul 2013, 10:16
I agree, I'm not a big lover of high tech gadgets in TR. I love the idea of crafting and duel use objects however. A boot knife would be particularly useful!

I've mentioned this before, I think the necklace will come into the next game somehow. At the moment I believe it may hold residual energy left from Himiko, so this could be used as some form of weapon or to control Lara, both negatively and positively.

Metalrocks
4th Jul 2013, 10:26
pretty much most of these wishes can be added to the wishlist. ;)

pomeranianpuppy
4th Jul 2013, 11:45
A machete to clear vegetation that hides the entrance to some interesting place - and to use in dual mode with the climbing axe in melee combat

That would be cool. I can just picture Lara using it in a jungle to find hidden treasures

Driber
4th Jul 2013, 11:49
I think we should keep Deus Ex and Tomb Raider separate. :)

Lara has had loads of high tech gadgets, so this notion makes no sense.

CakeLuv
4th Jul 2013, 12:32
I want her to know Aikido :3 that way she won't kill people, only let them begging and stuff... and then kill them...
Alsoo I want her to use a knife instead of a pickaxe, kinda like Ellie (:
I don't give a crap about the duals anymore, but I want a realistic Bow shooting, You know, every arrow can't go forward forever, it has to ovey gravity and stuff too lol :I

_Ninja_
4th Jul 2013, 13:19
I like the rougher feeling of this TR, so I don't want any cheesy James Bond gadgets. Machete sounds nice though.

dark7angel
4th Jul 2013, 13:35
I also not a big fan of high-tech gadgets in TR to be honest.


But to come up with ideas for tools:

- A machete to clear vegetation that hides the entrance to some interesting place - and to use in dual mode with the climbing axe in melee combat -
- Collecting poison frogs and curare plants to craft arrows that make one-hit kills.
- A fishing rod...? I don't know, maybe there can be some kind of fishing minigame to collect extra salvage? :D
- When swimming - assuming there will be swimming - she could use a heavy rock to sink faster and release it when going back up.

These are great ideas! :thumb:


I've mentioned this before, I think the necklace will come into the next game somehow. At the moment I believe it may hold residual energy left from Himiko, so this could be used as some form of weapon or to control Lara, both negatively and positively.

Please noooo!!! This is something I really didn't like in LAU and I hope it doesn't come back!!! I'm all fine with there being mystical artifacts, but I don't think Lara should wield them.

IRON LOBSTER
4th Jul 2013, 13:49
Swap the Assault Rifle class for the machete so we can keep the axe. AR's make survival games too easy, especially when the final AR was in fact an LMG (still totally sick). The machete could be leveled up with salvage for extra combo attacks, attributes like slashing/piercing and finishers. It would also be great for the next TR game if we end up having monsters to fight as seen in the Ascension beta footage where hacking away in close confines would be more intense.

Like Jurre said, a max level unlock in order to dual wield the climbing axe with the machete would be nice too.

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_super/4/44906/1080519-314332.jpg

Jurre
4th Jul 2013, 14:42
Swap the Assault Rifle class for the machete so we can keep the axe. AR's make survival games too easy, especially when the final AR was in fact an LMG (still totally sick).
The first one (Japanese type 100) was technicly not an Assault Rifle either, but a submachine gun... Only the Ak-47 is... Anyway, I think on hard difficulty level the rifle class is no unnecessary luxury, I do like to use it a lot. And if one does want extra challenge they can just choose not to use it...


The machete could be leveled up with salvage for extra combo attacks, attributes like slashing/piercing and finishers.
That sounds really exciting, but let's not forget that in a game that has guns and shooting action melee combat should not be too hard or elaborate... It would not be rewarding to go into melee combat if it is, it would be far more rewarding to avoid it and shoot the bastard instead... Unless of course it is rewarded with more points, salvage, and/or just makes for awesome -read: gory- visuals

larafan25
4th Jul 2013, 16:25
I'd rather her not have high-end gadgets. I don't want her bringing cool gadgets along with her, just simple stuff like weapons and rope.

Otherwise we should find the items in the game world and upgrade and increase our inventory, gear gating and stuff like that.

And yes, to whoever said something about eating.

Cristiavano
4th Jul 2013, 19:33
Lara is too poor, and still a beginner sorta. I hope we have Lara catch big foot and write for a magazine :)

Lord Martok
4th Jul 2013, 20:38
Lara's "high tech" stuff could be limited to communications, and maybe a GPS.

One of the reasons I didn't like the Tomb Raider movies (Ms. Jolie's "I refuse to wear short shorts" attitude notwithstanding) was that they also kinda felt more like 007 movies rather than Tomb Raider movies.

So, while it'd be nice to not see the next game get all 007, she should at least be able to stay in contact with her team, if she has one in the next game. (And have a general idea where she is, when the GPS actually works. :) )

Jurre
4th Jul 2013, 20:41
One of the reasons I didn't like the Tomb Raider movies (Ms. Jolie's "I refuse to wear short shorts" attitude notwithstanding) was that they also kinda felt more like 007 movies rather than Tomb Raider movies.

My thoughts exactly :thumb:

Driber
4th Jul 2013, 20:52
Lara is too poor, and still a beginner sorta. I hope we have Lara catch big foot and write for a magazine :)

We don't know anything about how much money Lara has at her disposal. And even if she *was* "poor", it's not like she'd have to buy everything herself. Her last expedition was funded by others, after all.


Lara's "high tech" stuff could be limited to communications, and maybe a GPS.

One of the reasons I didn't like the Tomb Raider movies (Ms. Jolie's "I refuse to wear short shorts" attitude notwithstanding) was that they also kinda felt more like 007 movies rather than Tomb Raider movies.

So, while it'd be nice to not see the next game get all 007, she should at least be able to stay in contact with her team, if she has one in the next game. (And have a general idea where she is, when the GPS actually works. :) )

Again with that shorts "quote"? :p

What exactly was so bad in the movies? Which gadgets did you have a problem with?

Valenka
4th Jul 2013, 23:41
Lara has had loads of high tech gadgets, so this notion makes no sense.

Yes, before the reboot. With the new game, it seems like Crystal is going for a more humble survivalist route - high tech gadgets would be out of place with that theme. The rope ascender was one thing, but a wristwatch that shoots grappling hooks? :scratch: That's treading in James Bond's territory.

Driber
5th Jul 2013, 09:55
Yes, before the reboot. With the new game, it seems like Crystal is going for a more humble survivalist route - high tech gadgets would be out of place with that theme. The rope ascender was one thing, but a wristwatch that shoots grappling hooks? :scratch: That's treading in James Bond's territory.

Lara never had any wristwatch that shoots grappling hooks.

And the rope ascender isn't a high tech gadget.

Furthermore, there is no evidence that CD is going the "humble survivalist route" from here on. In TR9, Lara's crude tools (at least from the start) were contextually justified by the whole shipwreck&scavenge situation, but it makes little sense to continue this limitation in subsequent games, because that would just make Lara look stupid, IMO.

Jurre
5th Jul 2013, 10:35
There's no evidence at all as to what Crystal D is gonna do, but we can voice our opinions on what we would prefer...

If a majority likes makeshift tools, which I think appears to be the case, then perhaps the next adventure could be the result of another planecrash or abduction, or some other situation that makes the adventure start like an accident, and leaves us without the tools of the trade. In fact I expect most games to build up the range of tools, weapons and abilities as the game progresses, which means it has to start out with little. How the game will justify that I think is not all that important...

James Bond-like gadgets I think are indeed something more associated to teflon Lara. Not that I didn't like teflon Lara, in fact I think there could be a spinoff were it is the old cocky, sexy, billionaire adventurer, comic book character Lara, but for the current incarnation I think it doesn't work...

pomeranianpuppy
5th Jul 2013, 10:48
I want reboot Lara to carry on being more Bear Grylls than James Bond :)

Lord Martok
5th Jul 2013, 13:57
Again with that shorts "quote"? :p

:lol: Like I said...notwithstanding.



What exactly was so bad in the movies? Which gadgets did you have a problem with?

That headpiece that she wore sometimes to communicate with her team in the second movie...sure, it was cool, but it just made her seem so "Jamie Bond" like. (And yes, there may actually be such a com device in existence...but it just doesn't seem to fit the Tomb Raider motif.) Now a bluetooth headset like in Legend, I could agree with. But the eyepiece monitor like was shown in the second movie? Part of me was just waiting for her to say "Vodka Martini, shaken, not stirred." (Or better yet, "Shall I take the shot, ma'am?") :D

And I'm still just not sure about the whole "reloading from the backpack" thing. Sure, it seemed to work because it was rather "video game-ish-esque-like", but I just couldn't buy it. :) (An element that was used in both movies, IIRC.)

I'm sure there are other things that would've bothered me a little bit, but quite honestly, I wasn't very invested in the second movie (not that I really liked the first movie either...except for the opening training scene). I only watched it because my roomie just happened to have it on on Netflix. By the time all was said and done, his reaction was: "Well...that was rather...underwhelming." I couldn't agree more. :) In further truth, I really only vaguely remember either movie.

Driber
5th Jul 2013, 14:26
There's no evidence at all as to what Crystal D is gonna do, but we can voice our opinions on what we would prefer...

Sure you can. Did I say otherwise? :)


If a majority likes makeshift tools, which I think appears to be the case, then perhaps the next adventure could be the result of another planecrash or abduction, or some other situation that makes the adventure start like an accident, and leaves us without the tools of the trade. In fact I expect most games to build up the range of tools, weapons and abilities as the game progresses, which means it has to start out with little. How the game will justify that I think is not all that important...

Hmm, I suspect this more says something about people's liking for RPG elements (getting stronger throughout the game, upgrading gear, etc) than it does about an inherit aversion to gadgets.


James Bond-like gadgets I think are indeed something more associated to teflon Lara. Not that I didn't like teflon Lara, in fact I think there could be a spinoff were it is the old cocky, sexy, billionaire adventurer, comic book character Lara, but for the current incarnation I think it doesn't work...

I kind of question if people even know what they are talking about when they compare old Lara to JB. The rope ascender from TR9 was typical JB-like gadget. And I haven't exactly seen hordes of people complain about that :whistle:


That headpiece that she wore sometimes to communicate with her team in the second movie...sure, it was cool, but it just made her seem so "Jamie Bond" like. (And yes, there may actually be such a com device in existence...but it just doesn't seem to fit the Tomb Raider motif.) Now a bluetooth headset like in Legend, I could agree with.

I don't understand this. How is a bluetooth headset (which is quite recent technology) less high-tech than Lara's headset from the TR movie? :scratch:


And I'm still just not sure about the whole "reloading from the backpack" thing. Sure, it seemed to work because it was rather "video game-ish-esque-like", but I just couldn't buy it. :) (An element that was used in both movies, IIRC.)

Reloading from the backpack? No idea what you mean, can you elaborate? Or maybe show YT clips? :)

Jurre
5th Jul 2013, 15:10
Sure you can. Did I say otherwise? :)

I'm not saying, I'm just saying...



Hmm, I suspect this more says something about people's liking for RPG elements (getting stronger throughout the game, upgrading gear, etc) than it does about an inherit aversion to gadgets.
Yeah working towards becoming stronger is what I have come to expect from games that deal with collecting stuff.

But if the next game was to start right away with the same skills and equipment as TR'13 ended with, Noah Hughes and the creative department are gonna have a really though job making up new weapons, tools and skills to go through that process again. I think they would have to come up with all kinds of crazy, improbable things to make that happen. Not that I don't expect them to come up with a few new toys and abilities in the next TR (I am really hoping for a machete and a motorcycle - are you reading this Noah? :D ), but I think it is nevertheless wise to make Lara start from stratch again and let us go through the same process again to regain those features, even though it may not always make a great deal of fictional sense that she lost those features to begin with...

As for high-tech gadgets... whether people like it or not can be determined from their reactions here...



I kind of question if people even know what they are talking about when they compare old Lara to JB. The rope ascender from TR9 was typical JB-like gadget. And I haven't exactly seen hordes of people complain about that :whistle:

I wouldn't say it's typical for James Bond; I guess JB's rope ascender would be disguised as a button on his suit that makes him ascent a rope made of spider web string that he shot out of his ballpen... or something like that... I don't know, the only JB film I like is Casino Royale...
Basicly what it means is that JB is using state of the art hardware that has to be supplied by a government laboratory, wereas Lara's tools and weapons and their upgrades in TR'13 were, maybe not all of them, but mostly, makeshift.

Oh, speaking of the movies, I remember there was some point when Jolie was visited by MI6. Of course she was being a total prick to them and that irritated me as well, but the biggest problem I had was what the hell was MI6 doing there? MI6 should not be in my Tomb Raider movie, damn it...

Valenka
5th Jul 2013, 17:37
Lara never had any wristwatch that shoots grappling hooks.


While choosing that option I thought of a wristbow that shoots arrows and allows Lara to climb up walls


And the rope ascender isn't a high tech gadget.

I didn't say it was. :p


but we can voice our opinions on what we would prefer...

Okay...no one said otherwise.

Jurre
5th Jul 2013, 18:25
Okay...no one said otherwise.

That's not what I meant, I meant to say that whether Crystal Dynamics would decide to upgrade Lara's equipment into high-tech gear might depend on what we would prefer.

It was a rather badly phrased sentence, that's true...

Driber
5th Jul 2013, 21:41
@Valenka: a wristbow and a wristwatch shooting grapple hooks are very different things.

The latter is, as you said, very JB-ish; I agree with that. The former, however, I can see being worked into a TR game in a non JB-ish kind of way.


But if the next game was to start right away with the same skills and equipment as TR'13 ended with, Noah Hughes and the creative department are gonna have a really though job making up new weapons, tools and skills to go through that process again. I think they would have to come up with all kinds of crazy, improbable things to make that happen. Not that I don't expect them to come up with a few new toys and abilities in the next TR (I am really hoping for a machete and a motorcycle - are you reading this Noah? :D ), but I think it is nevertheless wise to make Lara start from stratch again and let us go through the same process again to regain those features, even though it may not always make a great deal of fictional sense that she lost those features to begin with...

Having to start completely from scratch in each and every new game will become repetitive. Just as devs should put efforts into coming up with new toys and abilities, as you rightfully pointed out, it is also their job to be wary of not repeating the exact same formulas with every installment....for that will lead to the same staleness that forced them to do this drastic reboot in the first place.

So I disagree with the notion that TR9's formula should be repeated over and over. That said, I'm not saying that Lara should have an arsenal of weapons from the get-go and retaining them throughout the game, either; that would be the other extreme.

http://driber.net/os/userpics/up/8v981f.jpg

:D

No... instead, I'd like to see the devs get a bit more creative.


As for high-tech gadgets... whether people like it or not can be determined from their reactions here...

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that...


I wouldn't say it's typical for James Bond; I guess JB's rope ascender would be disguised as a button on his suit that makes him ascent a rope made of spider web string that he shot out of his ballpen... or something like that... I don't know, the only JB film I like is Casino Royale...

Sounds like your overall view on JB films is too cynical to really see the JB-ishness of the rope ascender, TBH.


Basicly what it means is that JB is using state of the art hardware that has to be supplied by a government laboratory, wereas Lara's tools and weapons and their upgrades in TR'13 were, maybe not all of them, but mostly, makeshift.

I think you hit the nail on the head there - JB uses state of the art gadgets created in a government laboratory. Lara has always used gadgets that were much more "realistic" (hate to use that term when it comes to videogames, but let's do it for the sake of discussion :p) as in, being able to buy it in a retail store (although some of it she probably had to get in a store specialized in expedition supplies).

This is one of the reasons why I think some of the TR - JB comparisons in this thread are a bit silly / exaggerated.


Oh, speaking of the movies, I remember there was some point when Jolie was visited by MI6. Of course she was being a total prick to them and that irritated me as well, but the biggest problem I had was what the hell was MI6 doing there? MI6 should not be in my Tomb Raider movie, damn it...

Hell, more reasons to stop comparing Lara to JB - she doesn't even like MI6! :D

Jurre
5th Jul 2013, 22:09
I'm pretty sure that developers can have a player go through essentialy the same journey of building up an arsenal of abilities, weapons and tools without making it feel like a repetition of the first game (though perhaps it should not be repeated too many times) the Saints Row games for instance have the player build up a crime syndicate from the ground up everytime and yet start again at the very beginning in the next one (though probably not in the upcoming one). As long as a few new things are added - toys, abilities, characters, story - this concept may stay fresh for quite a while... So I think this repetition may not be so repetitive as it sounds, though that would be up to the skills and talents of the developers of course...

Now for this James Bond comparison, years ago when I rented the TR movie dvd I watched some of the behind the scenes stuff and heard Jolie and the moviemakers talk about how were inspired by JB. Which to me was proof that they didn't understand Tomb Raider at all. If they had to rip off another movie to make their TR film I think they had better ripped off Indiana Jones... Then I think they would have been far closer to strike the right tone.

Driber
5th Jul 2013, 22:24
Well, one should consider how much the movie adaptions are actually relevant to the actual games...

I don't think the games were really overloaded with "high tech gadgets". And "JB-like gadgets" probably even less than that.

Lord Martok
6th Jul 2013, 01:12
Sure you can. Did I say otherwise? :)



Hmm, I suspect this more says something about people's liking for RPG elements (getting stronger throughout the game, upgrading gear, etc) than it does about an inherit aversion to gadgets.



I kind of question if people even know what they are talking about when they compare old Lara to JB. The rope ascender from TR9 was typical JB-like gadget. And I haven't exactly seen hordes of people complain about that :whistle:


[quote=Driber]
I don't understand this. How is a bluetooth headset (which is quite recent technology) less high-tech than Lara's headset from the TR movie? :scratch:

I guess a bluetooth headset would just seem a bit less obtrusive. The eyepiece headset seemed to stick out like bollocks on a bulldog. Now, I'll grant that Lara did not seem to use the eyepiece headset except when she was actually halted somewhere secure on the course of her treks to update her crew. (It certainly wouldn't do to have something that expensive and sophisticated running active whilst she'd be running, or climbing, or engaged in heavy activity.) But it still just smacks more of Jamie Bond than of Lara Croft. It just doesn't seem like Lara Croft to me. (Even though Angelina Jolie is certainly not Lara Croft to me in the first place.)



Reloading from the backpack? No idea what you mean, can you elaborate? Or maybe show YT clips? :)
Ok...never mind. I studied exactly how she reloaded her pistols. Interesting method. Apparently, she carries a belt of extra clips (looks like at least two clips per side) that are aligned so that all she has to do is point her pistols downward, slide them onto the waiting clips, and then she pushes the clips around to the back, where they seem to auto-release, already seated into her pistols.

See here in the video at time 1:33 to 1:36.
5Gc9pviBlJA

Nifty, and certainly very video game-ish-esque-like.

Still....just didn't care for the movies.

(As a side note: this was the only outfit she had that remotely whispered "Lara Croft" to me in either of the movies.) :)

pomeranianpuppy
6th Jul 2013, 10:10
I thought the silver wetsuit was quite 'Lara'

namitokiwa
6th Jul 2013, 13:13
If the next Tomb Raider follow the ideal of nearly - open world like the reboot. I would highly recommend that they should make a lot of option on how you attack the enemies such as Hitman absolution. You don't need to kill them or you can kill them by traps or make more way for lara to finish the sequences. I like how they changed the reboot gameplay by adding some stealth action but I need more optional like what Hitman series did. It would be awnsome. And for the gadget. I think the next Tomb Raider, Lara will get what she need like the old Lara for sure. And I don't know how the CD will continue the story of Lara by following the ideals of this reboot.
Sorry for my bad at English. :)

Driber
6th Jul 2013, 14:41
I guess a bluetooth headset would just seem a bit less obtrusive. The eyepiece headset seemed to stick out like bollocks on a bulldog. Now, I'll grant that Lara did not seem to use the eyepiece headset except when she was actually halted somewhere secure on the course of her treks to update her crew. (It certainly wouldn't do to have something that expensive and sophisticated running active whilst she'd be running, or climbing, or engaged in heavy activity.) But it still just smacks more of Jamie Bond than of Lara Croft. It just doesn't seem like Lara Croft to me. (Even though Angelina Jolie is certainly not Lara Croft to me in the first place.)

Hmm, well, considering that Lara had the headset in several games, I would say it's indeed quite Lara Croft. She used the headset to communicate with Zip in TR5 as well as in some of the LAU games.

I wouldn't label it as "James Bond-ish" just because it's a headset. This is used in a plethora of movies. If we were to compare it to JB, I would more say the communication device would be in her wristwatch or something, lol.

Then again, perhaps this would be a better comparison then:

http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/751dd4/b892/knight-rider.jpg

:D


Ok...never mind. I studied exactly how she reloaded her pistols. Interesting method. Apparently, she carries a belt of extra clips (looks like at least two clips per side) that are aligned so that all she has to do is point her pistols downward, slide them onto the waiting clips, and then she pushes the clips around to the back, where they seem to auto-release, already seated into her pistols.

See here in the video at time 1:33 to 1:36.
5Gc9pviBlJA

Nifty, and certainly very video game-ish-esque-like.

Ahhh THAT. Heh, now I know what you're talking about :D

Yeah, I thought that looked pretty darn cool :)


(As a side note: this was the only outfit she had that remotely whispered "Lara Croft" to me in either of the movies.) :)

In the games, Lara has lots of different outfits besides the iconic shorts and green tank top. So to me it makes sense to have Lara in a variety of different outfits in the movies as well.

I think the only outfit that actually didn't say "Lara Croft" was this:

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Lord Martok
6th Jul 2013, 19:10
Hmm, well, considering that Lara had the headset in several games, I would say it's indeed quite Lara Croft. She used the headset to communicate with Zip in TR5 as well as in some of the LAU games.

I wouldn't label it as "James Bond-ish" just because it's a headset. This is used in a plethora of movies. If we were to compare it to JB, I would more say the communication device would be in her wristwatch or something, lol.

Then again, perhaps this would be a better comparison then:



I did not deny that she used a headset in the games. She used one obviously in a few more games than I recalled. It was just the video headset that she wore in the movies that didn't settle with me. I do not understand why you are failing to grasp that that is where my discomfort level is. The headsets she wore in the games just seemed less obtrusive. And as I pointed out, to the movies' credit, she at least seemed to only use that video headset when she was not on the move. That at least gave the use of the headset come credibility, even if it still did not quite fit into what I think of when I think of Lara Croft using some high tech gadgets. No, she does not use wrist watch communicators wrist watch lasers or wrist watch grappling hooks. That would indeed make her too JB like, in my personal opinion.

Driber
6th Jul 2013, 19:37
LM, I'm only voicing my opinions, as well. I'm not saying my opinions are right and yours are wrong (they *are* opinions, after all, and thus unable to be true or false :)).

I'm just trying to see the logic, that's all.

TBH, I actually don't remember any video headset from the movies :o
Got some screens? :)

dark7angel
6th Jul 2013, 19:51
TBH, I actually don't remember any video headset from the movies :o
Got some screens? :)

I think it was something like this:

Hunter_Wolfe18
6th Jul 2013, 20:26
I want Lara to have flares next time around instead of a torch, and she'd be able to use them the same way she uses torches in the new game to light things. I can see that the only problem with that would be incorporating them into gear gating. Lara didn't get the ability to turn her torch on/off until a third of the way through the game, after all. But it would make sense that she doesn't have to start from square one again in the next game's survival scenario.

I really like the crafting system in Far Cry 3 and The Last of Us. The Last of Us (don't shoot me) soars above Tomb Raider in setting a survival tone, and I think it'd be really great to see a similar real-time crafting mechanic incorporated into the next game!

Also, one of you mentioned having arrows that don't shoot straight all the time - I'm going to put this next bit in bold so the developers doing the puzzles in "TR2" have a new idea to work with: Have puzzles where wind affects arrows!!! Imagine having a space where we need to hit specific targets by adjusting our aim to account for medium/strong winds. In combat, I don't want to do that, but when it comes to wind-based puzzles, I think this would be an excellent idea!

Murphdawg1
6th Jul 2013, 22:28
How about baterangs?:wave:

Lord Martok
7th Jul 2013, 01:08
I think it was something like this:


Yes, very much this. ^ That is what I spake of. :)

Driber
7th Jul 2013, 22:24
Thanks for the screen, Marta :)

In that case - I agree, LM; that's quite high-tech.

Although perhaps with Google Glass coming soon, it may just become "normal" in 10 years or so, lol.

Lord Martok
8th Jul 2013, 01:07
Thanks for the screen, Marta :)

In that case - I agree, LM; that's quite high-tech.

Although perhaps with Google Glass coming soon, it may just become "normal" in 10 years or so, lol.
Aye...it just might.

I remember a commerical sometime back that had a guy sitting in a park, wearing one such headset, and conducting several business transactions and operations. It is indeed very cool.

Beyond the JB comparison, I'm not really sure exactly why it would bother me to see her wearing it in a game....let alone in the movies. But, as I did state, to the movies' credit, they did portray her usage of the headset only when she was in a secure area where she didn't have to do much moving 'round at all. :)

Driber
22nd Sep 2013, 12:58
*Moving to TR10 forum*

Ivanovskiy Ivan
26th Sep 2013, 10:50
I want that Lara had the best gadgets. Better than at Hitmen and the Batman!)))

Metalrocks
26th Sep 2013, 11:05
I want that Lara had the best gadgets. Better than at Hitmen and the Batman!)))

you mean like heatseeking bullets and x ray vision :p

pirate1802
26th Sep 2013, 12:43
I kinda see Lara as the female Bear Gryls + female Indiana Jones. I'd prefer if in future games her equipment has a ..dirty and rough (?) feel.


you mean like heatseeking bullets and x ray vision :p

Well she already has Eagle Vision. What if she has Assassin blood? :O Plot twist: Richard Croft was an Assassin and in one of her future expeditions she stumbles upon a TWCB Grand Temple.

Thetford
29th Sep 2013, 16:37
While not a gadget persay, I would like to see her use a backpack, not the schoolgirl satchel from the old games, but a normal sized backpack that you can get from outdoor expedition stores. Like when I was camping in Canada, I bought this nifty little backpack (roughly the size a student uses for college) from an outdoor expedition store at a motorway service station that has such features as a slot for headphone wires, a slot you can put a water bottle straw through (perhaps an "idle" animation could be her taking sips through the straw) and a detachable keychain so you can store keys.

In terms of actual tools, maybe perhaps a monkey wrench, so she can fix basic machinery to advance her travels (or reveal secrets) as well as putting a literal spanner in the works to hinder enemies.

pirate1802
29th Sep 2013, 16:58
But would she be able to climb or do those acrobatic moves with a huge backpack on her.. well back?

Rai
1st Oct 2013, 00:01
I've never been a fan of high tech gadgetry in Tomb Raider. Probably because in TRs 1-4 Lara went in only with her trusty pistols, a medipack and a light source (flares or a torch). It was only in TRC that they introduced a headset, and even then, only for the VCI levels. Everything else was acquired during the game. Which seems odd in a way that she wouldn't be more prepared. She didn't even have a rope :p. The PDA, for example seemed a tad too much. The headset was useful for Lara re talking to Zip and Alister, but it was too much in game with all that talking. Even Lara told them to shut up once in a while.

Having introduced tools like a climbing axe and carrying a camera around (though maybe, once she'd found it, she took that with her more for comfort, watching the footage), I can see Lara continuing to be prepared for her adventures depending on where she's going and depending on whether CD decide she'd still have a team (so she'd be using a walky talky or even a headset again) etc. I'm not against a few essential basics that could help her on her way. Lara is, if anything, practical. As long as it isn't overdone/used or overly techy. It just seems more Lara-like if it is the bare simple/rustic basics. I wouldn't be too pleased if her equipment detracted from the isolation feel.

Jurre
2nd Oct 2013, 16:43
To me high tech gadgets are no problem in Legend or Underworld were Lara is a billionaire adventurer: if you're rich and choose to go on an adventure it makes sense to go in well prepared with the best stuf money can buy. I never minded Allister and Zips chatter either.

But in a survival story that comes by accident she naturaly has to use makeshift tools and sruvive on determination and inventiveness...