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ZakKa89
15th Nov 2012, 21:20
*Moderator Edit/Update*

July 2014

Predators writer to work on Deux Ex screenplay as Scott Derrickson exits


There haven’t been many updates on the Deus Ex movie since the big-screen adaptation of the hit game franchise was announced by Eidos Montreal and CBS Films back in 2012, but apparently the project is still moving forward — albeit with a new writer and director....

Read full article here:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/predators-writer-work-deux-ex-screenplay-scott-derrickson-exits/#!bwJuYX



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http://www.slashfilm.com/sinister-director-scott-derrickson-to-make-deus-ex-for-cbs-films/


Watching Sinister, I never would have guessed that the creators — director Scott Derrickson and co-writer C. Robert Cargill (aka Massawyrm at AICN) – would move on to tackle one of the most popular video game hits of the past twenty years.

The game series in question is Deus Ex, a set of first-person shooters that factors in many stealth and role-playing character elements as it drops players into a world characterized by giant corporations and extensive cybernetic body modification. The specific game in question is the latest release, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which acts as a prequel to the 2000 original and features the early days of human modification and the social, political, and economic changes that the technology threatens to push forward.

A press release announces the creative tea, and says that Roy Lee and Adrian Askarieh are attached to produce the film withJohn P. Middleton serving as Executive Producer. Askarieh also produced the Hitman video game adaptation, and is one of the guys working on Kane & Lynch, too. Which is to say he got in early with a rights package from Eidos, the game publisher which originally backed all three properties. That means that the link to this film and Hitman may be little more than a business thing. (So don’t worry much about it.)

This is the CBS Films summation of Deus Ex, for which Human Revolution will serve as the “primary template:”

Set in the near future, when dramatic advances in science, specifically human augmentation, have triggered a technological renaissance, Deus Ex: Human Revolution follows Adam Jensen, an ex-SWAT security specialist who must embrace mechanical augments in order to unravel a global conspiracy.

There’s a lot about Deus Ex that is familiar from many other games: the shared suitcase of tropes like stealth, cybernetics, and cyberpunk conspiracy theories. But it’s worth noting that Deus Ex helped establish many of those elements in the way they exist in games now, as the original 2000 release had a huge effect on game development that followed.

And unlike most game to film adaptations, which are based on games in which the primary narrative drive comes from basic player action — something that often translates poorly to the screen — Deus Ex features enough of a plotline to be a reasonable foundation for a film. Whether Derrickson and Cargill can properly mold it into a movie is a different question, but they’re starting with better material than most.

Let the 'who must play what character' beginnnn!!!!

By the way I think the choice of writer/director is extremely weird...

Zoet
16th Nov 2012, 01:23
I have a sinking feeling that the movie isn't going to be as classy as I would hope. I'm not certain on the actors, and my suggestions in the old 'who should play Jensen' thread were'nt all to great. Also, any DX:HR movie will have some competition with the Robocop remake that's comming out in 2014 (although the leaked script is pretty nasty IMO).

TheYouthCounselor
16th Nov 2012, 04:25
I know serious adult animated movies have never been successful internationally, and CGI ones have almost always bombed.

But Square Enix should give it a go with making CGI movies again. The Final Fantasy feature length movies had issues with the script, flat characters, and with the case of Advent Children some seriously iffy voice acting. The Final Flight of the Osiris segment of the Animatrix was very well done, and they already have CG assets by Goldtooth and Eidos Montreal for DX:HR.

ZakKa89
16th Nov 2012, 07:04
Final Fantasy spirits within is still some of the best CGI I have ever seen. A CGI movie would be great imo

Pinky_Powers
16th Nov 2012, 08:19
Final Fantasy spirits within is still some of the best CGI I have ever seen. A CGI movie would be great imo

My biggest issue with that film was how lifeless all the faces were. They didn't have a very sophisticated rig for facial animations. The mesh detail was amazing, but that means very little when emotions are lacking. Humans need to emote for believability.

The head-rig system developed by James Cameron for Avatar is the savior of CG humans. With that technology I'd be willing to watch another Spirits Within. But never again with simple key-framing. I can't stomach to look upon high-res CG human puppets with no souls.

Then there's the obvious question of why make something awful in CG when you could hire an actor to do it for real? Stylized animation is one thing, but there's no benefit when you're going for photo-realistic humans - especially when they always look lifeless and awkward when they're trying to emote.

I don't watch Robert Zimeckis animated features for that very reason. They're a waste of his good story-telling abilities just to produce something visually awful.

Shralla
16th Nov 2012, 08:36
Going to be crap. That man has literally never written or directed a single quality film in his life.

Senka
16th Nov 2012, 10:06
Please no. I believe it was Ashpolt who said something along the lines of:

"Video game series defined by player choice. Movie. Nope"

JCpies
16th Nov 2012, 13:19
My biggest issue with that film was how lifeless all the faces were. They didn't have a very sophisticated rig for facial animations. The mesh detail was amazing, but that means very little when emotions are lacking. Humans need to emote for believability.

The head-rig system developed by James Cameron for Avatar is the savior of CG humans. With that technology I'd be willing to watch another Spirits Within. But never again with simple key-framing. I can't stomach to look upon high-res CG human puppets with no souls.

Then there's the obvious question of why make something awful in CG when you could hire an actor to do it for real? Stylized animation is one thing, but there's no benefit when you're going for photo-realistic humans - especially when they always look lifeless and awkward when they're trying to emote.

I don't watch Robert Zimeckis animated features for that very reason. They're a waste of his good story-telling abilities just to produce something visually awful.

http://anime.frikafrax.com/wp-content/uploads/an_ova_ms_igloo2_freaky_faces.jpg

Facial expressions.

ZakKa89
16th Nov 2012, 17:05
Ethan Hawke?

http://images.nymag.com/nymetro/news/ethanhawke040621_175.jpg

Cruise?

http://i.imgur.com/ljNZZ.png

you know what, maybe this wasn't such a good idea...

Stephen Amell (from Arrow)
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/56851-stephen-amell-shirtless-gallery/1350415847_stephen-amell-467.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fR8BQOzYbok/0.jpg

Jerion
16th Nov 2012, 17:42
Ethan Hawke?

http://images.nymag.com/nymetro/news/ethanhawke040621_175.jpg

Cruise?

http://i.imgur.com/ljNZZ.png

you know what, maybe this wasn't such a good idea...

Stephen Amell (from Arrow)
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/56851-stephen-amell-shirtless-gallery/1350415847_stephen-amell-467.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fR8BQOzYbok/0.jpg

Abort! Abort!

My vote goes to Nathan Fillion. If they get the hair right, he could pull it off. It's all about the hair with him.

Shralla
16th Nov 2012, 20:36
Nathan Fillion? No way in hell. There's nothing Malcolm Reynolds about Jensen at all.

SageSavage
16th Nov 2012, 20:56
Meh.

EricaLeeV
16th Nov 2012, 21:22
No thank you.


I'm sure a talented team with a LOT of money could work with the basic ideas of the game and make it something amazing but with this news...it's a stretch to say the least.

b1skit
16th Nov 2012, 21:35
Cruise?

http://i.imgur.com/ljNZZ.png


bwahahahahahah THIS IS AWESOME. It actually kinda works, right? :)

Jerion
16th Nov 2012, 21:38
Nathan Fillion? No way in hell. There's nothing Malcolm Reynolds about Jensen at all.

I just want to see Malcom Reynolds with robotic arm swords and retracting shades. Can you really fault me for that?

Edit:

You know what? Why not just cast Elias Toufexis, the man himself? He's obviously got the right voice, and he's even pretty close to looking the part.

JCpies
16th Nov 2012, 22:43
Elias as Adam Jensen, JJB as the stunt double.

Deal.

Unstoppable
17th Nov 2012, 03:46
Sylvester Stallone is Adam Jensen! I AM THE LAW!

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j395/Orcclubs/sylvester_stallone.jpg

Pinky_Powers
17th Nov 2012, 03:55
No thank you.


I'm sure a talented team with a LOT of money could work with the basic ideas of the game and make it something amazing but with this news...it's a stretch to say the least.

Agreed. If it isn't a project on-par with Blade Runner, with lots of coin behind it and a true genius in the director's chair and at the writer's desk, this film is doomed for failure.

What we're probably going to get: a heavily CG action flick with a terribly effete conspiracy "story", and just enough nonsensical plot twists to keep the pointless set-pieces rolling on until the credits.

I can't wait! :rolleyes:

sonicsidewinder
17th Nov 2012, 04:16
Straight to VHS.

Spyhopping
17th Nov 2012, 11:16
Good to hear it's actually going to happen. I reckon they'll pick up a story with a protagonist that we haven't met before. Or rather, I hope this will be the case. It'd be tricky to cast Jenson.

Also, Nathan Fillion? Nooo! :P

Lady_Of_The_Vine
17th Nov 2012, 12:13
Just added this to news updates too. :thumb:

DX MOVIE - DERRICKSON WILL DIRECT
2012-11-15 16:31:00 by Eidos Montréal


CBS Films announced today that Scott Derrickson (Sinister, The Exorcism of Emily Rose) will direct the screen adaptation of the iconic Square Enix video game Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Derrickson will also write the screenplay for the film with C. Robert Cargill (Sinister). Roy Lee and Adrian Askarieh are attached to produce the film with John P. Middleton serving as Executive Producer. Deus Ex: Human Revolution will serve as the primary template for the film.

"Deus Ex is a phenomenal cyberpunk game with soul and intelligence,” said Derrickson, who continued, “By combining amazing action and tension with big, philosophical ideas, Deus Ex is smart, ballsy, and will make one hell of a movie. Cargill and I can't wait to bring

http://www.eidosmontreal.com/news/Deus-Ex-Movie-Director-Derrickson

AlexOfSpades
19th Nov 2012, 15:48
http://i.imgur.com/NbyVg.png


Edit: Some factual reasons why i'm not looking forward to this too:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Supermariobros.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2ODY0NDMyOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDQ4NDAzMQ@@._V1._SY317_CR2,0,214,317_.jpg

http://www.everybodysucksbutus.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/street_fighter_poster2.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/maxpayneposters2.jpg

Dentrick
19th Nov 2012, 16:34
Just wanted to mention that the creation of a movie, no matter how terrible, doesn't necessarily have to ruin your experience of the game. The idea that nobody should even try to make a movie with it because it will just ruin everything is poor reasoning. Deciding how good the movie is going to be before anyone knows anything about it is ridiculous. So relax. It might be good.

SageSavage
19th Nov 2012, 16:53
Movies based on games are a bad idea. Without the interactivity, the experience will be totally different. Even if the movie is well executed, it will feel like watching someone else play the character you're used to be. Especially a game that provides so many player choices like DX will suffer badly.

McFlabbergasty
19th Nov 2012, 18:00
Nathan Fillion's a fine actor, but I just can't see him fitting the role of Adam Jensen.

Seriously, Internet. I like Firefly and Serenity too, but you all need to stop fellating Captain Reynolds.

Stellazira
19th Nov 2012, 20:28
I just want to see Malcom Reynolds with robotic arm swords and retracting shades. Can you really fault me for that?

Edit:

You know what? Why not just cast Elias Toufexis, the man himself? He's obviously got the right voice, and he's even pretty close to looking the part.

They'd have to find a way to make him appear taller, because AJ is over 6' tall and Elias is not 6' tall. :p

HERESY
19th Nov 2012, 21:50
I can't wait for this.


Of course, the most obvious challenge from the get-go is that they're dealing with a video game as their sole source material. "That comes with its own host of problems," he continued. "Every fan of the game has a very specific idea in what they want to see in a movie -- casting, visuals, favorite parts of the game. At the same time, we're also making a film for people who haven't played the game... The way we've approached it is that we've decided not to make a video game movie. We're making a cyberpunk movie."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/17/deus-ex-writer-on-adapting-the-game-for-film

This will be in good hands.

Pinky_Powers
20th Nov 2012, 05:06
Nathan Fillion's a fine actor, but I just can't see him fitting the role of Adam Jensen.

Seriously, Internet. I like Firefly and Serenity too, but you all need to stop fellating Captain Reynolds.

I don't know. His work as Captain Hammer is really only one degree away from Adam Jensen. I think he'd nail it... or hammer it. Like, hammer the nail. Carpentry metaphors... you understand.

Tverdyj
20th Nov 2012, 10:02
Abort! Abort!

My vote goes to Nathan Fillion. If they get the hair right, he could pull it off. It's all about the hair with him.

Just give the role to Keanu Reeves. He's in the Cowboy Bebop movie already, and a gruff, never happy smiling lone-wolf supra-normal protagonist fits his role description to a T.

El_Bel
20th Nov 2012, 13:20
I don't know. His work as Captain Hammer is really only one degree away from Adam Jensen. I think he'd nail it... or hammer it. Like, hammer the nail. Carpentry metaphors... you understand.

I just found a tagline for the movie.


His armblades are not the Hammer..

Shralla
20th Nov 2012, 21:07
Just give the role to Keanu Reeves. He's in the Cowboy Bebop movie already, and a gruff, never happy smiling lone-wolf supra-normal protagonist fits his role description to a T.

That movie got indefinitely postponed for a reason.

TheYouthCounselor
22nd Nov 2012, 16:08
http://anime.frikafrax.com/wp-content/uploads/an_ova_ms_igloo2_freaky_faces.jpg

Facial expressions.

Your image takes up the entire page and the link doesn't even load.


My biggest issue with that film was how lifeless all the faces were. They didn't have a very sophisticated rig for facial animations. The mesh detail was amazing, but that means very little when emotions are lacking. Humans need to emote for believability.

The head-rig system developed by James Cameron for Avatar is the savior of CG humans. With that technology I'd be willing to watch another Spirits Within. But never again with simple key-framing. I can't stomach to look upon high-res CG human puppets with no souls.

Then there's the obvious question of why make something awful in CG when you could hire an actor to do it for real? Stylized animation is one thing, but there's no benefit when you're going for photo-realistic humans - especially when they always look lifeless and awkward when they're trying to emote.

I don't watch Robert Zimeckis animated features for that very reason. They're a waste of his good story-telling abilities just to produce something visually awful.

Well the lifeless faces complimented the lifeless characters. If the characters in that movie weren't emotionless robots then they were cornball comic relief.

As for facial capture, I'm divided on that. While Cameron's image based facial capture is impressive, there were still moments in Avatar that creeped the hell out of me. Also Pixar and Dreamworks animate exclusive by hand as well as video game animation darlings VALVe and Naughty Dog compared with say Quantic Dream with their extensive facial capture on Heavy Rain.

JCpies
22nd Nov 2012, 21:55
Your image takes up the entire page and the link doesn't even load.

Sorry that you have a tiny monitor. ;)

AlexOfSpades
23rd Nov 2012, 12:46
Your image takes up the entire page and the link doesn't even load.




http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/e/e9/4chan-troll-seal.gif

Dead-Eye
29th Nov 2012, 18:05
I have been waiting for a Deus Ex movie for years. Now that there is a good chance of actually getting... something, that is at lest called Deus Ex, I'm rather disappointed.

Deus Ex is still far superior to Human Revolution, when it comes to depth, plot, style, theme, and character development. Yet, because games that are made into movies are based off sales of the specific game, the movie industry has decided to make a Deus Ex movie based off Human Revolution and not Deus Ex, because HR was more successful financially. They aren't even taking into consideration the vastly different markets when the two games came out at the time.

After learning of this I am completely uninterested in this movie now. I don't mean to be a jackass but EM really just doesn't get Deus Ex as a theme. They think it's about Human Augmentation and what it means to be human. Yet, they are completely missing that it is also about Nanotechnology, Men in Black, Illuminati Lore, secret underground laboratories in everything, inter-government politics, brotherhood, alternative history and the color blue (which correlates to the deepest depths in the ocean).

Maybe a movie will help get the idea of Deus Ex out their to the masses, but I doubt it. If anything I feel this is only going to tarnish the DX franchise further and segregate the community further.

The only upshot is that if the movie dose good, and I mean really good, they might decide it's a good idea to make the original Deus Ex into a movie and they might do it in 3 parts (as I believe they should) to maximize profits and get the whole Deus Ex story across.

Other then that, I don't see anything good here. Deus Ex is dead as it was. We aren't gonna get another Deus Ex game until the game industry pulls it head our of the you know where, and starts making games for the art again!

But, that gets into the heart of the real issue, which is that the Illuminati have engineered society to make all corporations motivated by profit and nothing else. This has the side effect of pretty much killing all art. And without art, we have no culture, and without culture, we have nothing to fight for, nothing to believe in, which is exactly what the Illuminati wants btw.

Senka
30th Nov 2012, 01:54
the Illuminati have engineered society to make all corporations motivated by profit and nothing else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

HERESY
30th Nov 2012, 02:06
I have been waiting for a Deus Ex movie for years. Now that there is a good chance of actually getting... something, that is at lest called Deus Ex, I'm rather disappointed.

Deus Ex is still far superior to Human Revolution, when it comes to depth, plot, style, theme, and character development. Yet, because games that are made into movies are based off sales of the specific game, the movie industry has decided to make a Deus Ex movie based off Human Revolution and not Deus Ex, because HR was more successful financially. They aren't even taking into consideration the vastly different markets when the two games came out at the time.

After learning of this I am completely uninterested in this movie now. I don't mean to be a jackass but EM really just doesn't get Deus Ex as a theme. They think it's about Human Augmentation and what it means to be human. Yet, they are completely missing that it is also about Nanotechnology, Men in Black, Illuminati Lore, secret underground laboratories in everything, inter-government politics, brotherhood, alternative history and the color blue (which correlates to the deepest depths in the ocean).

Maybe a movie will help get the idea of Deus Ex out their to the masses, but I doubt it. If anything I feel this is only going to tarnish the DX franchise further and segregate the community further.

The only upshot is that if the movie dose good, and I mean really good, they might decide it's a good idea to make the original Deus Ex into a movie and they might do it in 3 parts (as I believe they should) to maximize profits and get the whole Deus Ex story across.

Other then that, I don't see anything good here. Deus Ex is dead as it was. We aren't gonna get another Deus Ex game until the game industry pulls it head our of the you know where, and starts making games for the art again!

But, that gets into the heart of the real issue, which is that the Illuminati have engineered society to make all corporations motivated by profit and nothing else. This has the side effect of pretty much killing all art. And without art, we have no culture, and without culture, we have nothing to fight for, nothing to believe in, which is exactly what the Illuminati wants btw.

When companies try to cater to people such as yourself they go belly up.

Dentrick
30th Nov 2012, 06:04
I have been waiting for a Deus Ex movie for years. Now that there is a good chance of actually getting... something, that is at lest called Deus Ex, I'm rather disappointed.

Deus Ex is still far superior to Human Revolution, when it comes to depth, plot, style, theme, and character development. Yet, because games that are made into movies are based off sales of the specific game, the movie industry has decided to make a Deus Ex movie based off Human Revolution and not Deus Ex, because HR was more successful financially. They aren't even taking into consideration the vastly different markets when the two games came out at the time.

After learning of this I am completely uninterested in this movie now. I don't mean to be a jackass but EM really just doesn't get Deus Ex as a theme. They think it's about Human Augmentation and what it means to be human. Yet, they are completely missing that it is also about Nanotechnology, Men in Black, Illuminati Lore, secret underground laboratories in everything, inter-government politics, brotherhood, alternative history and the color blue (which correlates to the deepest depths in the ocean).

Maybe a movie will help get the idea of Deus Ex out their to the masses, but I doubt it. If anything I feel this is only going to tarnish the DX franchise further and segregate the community further.

The only upshot is that if the movie dose good, and I mean really good, they might decide it's a good idea to make the original Deus Ex into a movie and they might do it in 3 parts (as I believe they should) to maximize profits and get the whole Deus Ex story across.

Other then that, I don't see anything good here. Deus Ex is dead as it was. We aren't gonna get another Deus Ex game until the game industry pulls it head our of the you know where, and starts making games for the art again!

But, that gets into the heart of the real issue, which is that the Illuminati have engineered society to make all corporations motivated by profit and nothing else. This has the side effect of pretty much killing all art. And without art, we have no culture, and without culture, we have nothing to fight for, nothing to believe in, which is exactly what the Illuminati wants btw.

The only appropriate response to this is as follows:


"Oh freddled gruntbuggly/thy micturations are to me/As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes. And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

Dead-Eye
8th Dec 2012, 14:16
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

I'm not a big fan of the Razor, people always use him as a justification for why they don't need to accept a complex explanation for the root of the world's problems. Thus, I find it highly ironic that in the link you sent me the very last quot is:
"Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the ****-up theory." Almost like the article needs to inform you that this literary topic is suppose to be applied to any beliefs that one might have about a secret government conspiracy theory and, basically, nothing else.

You know, those conspiracy theories that have been well proven with scientific fact: It's right here! (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html) Yeah those conspiracy theories.

Also don't quot from the above article and tell me the author said:
One thing won't chime with some of the protesters' claims: the super-entity is unlikely to be the intentional result of a conspiracy to rule the world. "Such structures are common in nature," says Sugihara. The journalist who wrote this is trying to use misdirection, the quote is wayy- out of context.

TheYouthCounselor
13th Dec 2012, 05:20
I have been waiting for a Deus Ex movie for years. Now that there is a good chance of actually getting... something, that is at lest called Deus Ex, I'm rather disappointed.

Deus Ex is still far superior to Human Revolution, when it comes to depth, plot, style, theme, and character development. Yet, because games that are made into movies are based off sales of the specific game, the movie industry has decided to make a Deus Ex movie based off Human Revolution and not Deus Ex, because HR was more successful financially.

It's not just sales but producers shopping for intellectual properties to turn into motion pictures also look for strong art direction.

A lot of directors and producers look at source material and go "That looks nice" and do their best to capture the look. Many video games and comics translated into movies manage to be eye catching and look pretty without capturing the soul of the work. Many young directors are hired just for creating beautiful looking demo reels.

Deus Ex 1 may have been one of the great greatest games of all time but it's art style and direction was never a strong point.

Galaxus
17th Dec 2012, 04:34
Hope they make a good movie!

El_Bel
18th Dec 2012, 10:07
Deus Ex 1 may have been one of the great greatest games of all time but it's art style and direction was never a strong point.

Goth-punk is a very interesting art style. It's just that Deus Ex did not have the graphic fidelity to portrey it very well. But it was in there.

Take a look at Nicolette for example

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110705205544/deusex/en/images/0/0c/NicoletteDuclare.jpg

or this gal

http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/deusex/hongkong2/41.jpg

or the tight leather corset of Anna Navarre

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110705202042/deusex/en/images/5/5c/AnnaNavarre.jpg

This billboard.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=114122034



Take a look at the protagonist and everyone else who is wearing a trenchcoat.

The humurous references about the state of the world. The chocolate has recycled humans in it! Legal euthanasia for just 10.000 credits. All this give the world it's style.

thelastdisciple
24th Dec 2012, 02:53
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9230/deusexmovie.jpg

It's actually harder than i thought to find actors who could remotely even resemble Adam Jensen (if this was the character they'd be using in the movie).

I rounded up a few shots to compare and see actors that could pass for his likeness, keep in mind i wasn't searching for whether they'd do the role justice or anything based on their acting skills but just going off of the looks department this is the best i could come up with. Was trying to find young-ish actors... at least in their mid 30s to mid 40s with dark brown to jet black hair and at least see them with some facial hair.

In this image we've got Keanu Reeves, Christian Bale, Dominic Purcell, Wes Bentley, Ray Park, Matthew Fox and Craig Parker.

Arvuti
24th Dec 2012, 08:22
How about just Elias Toufexis

He is an actual actor, has been adam jensen for 4 years and kind of looks like him.

SageSavage
24th Dec 2012, 08:42
From the pic above, Dominic Purcell. Doesn't look like Adam but he has the appropriate hard ass look for that kind of setting.

thelastdisciple
24th Dec 2012, 09:09
How about just Elias Toufexis

He is an actual actor, has been adam jensen for 4 years and kind of looks like him.

True but no offense to Toufexis as i think he looks the least like his character in comparison to the others i thought of in the graphic i posted.

That's just me though... *shrugs*

It'd be just like casting Nolan North to play Nathan Drake in a live adaptation of Uncharted.. wouldn't work....

Sevket
24th Dec 2012, 09:19
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9230/deusexmovie.jpg

It's actually harder than i thought to find actors who could remotely even resemble Adam Jensen (if this was the character they'd be using in the movie).

I rounded up a few shots to compare and see actors that could pass for his likeness, keep in mind i wasn't searching for whether they'd do the role justice or anything based on their acting skills but just going off of the looks department this is the best i could come up with. Was trying to find young-ish actors... at least in their mid 30s to mid 40s with dark brown to jet black hair and at least see them with some facial hair.

In this image we've got Keanu Reeves, Christian Bale, Dominic Purcell, Wes Bentley, Ray Park, Matthew Fox and Craig Parker.

I'd say
http://wallpaper.finder101.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/The_Expendables_2_Scott-Adkins_Wallpaper_03.jpg

thelastdisciple
24th Dec 2012, 09:31
Totally forgot about Scott Adkins, great choice!

Sevket
24th Dec 2012, 10:40
Totally forgot about Scott Adkins, great choice!

I think so.

nsf001
24th Dec 2012, 13:37
http://photos.posh24.com/p/1383225/z/keanu_reeves/keanu_reeves_khaki_jacket_brow.jpg
:whistle:

hybridex
27th Dec 2012, 00:34
You guys are making me going bonkers with all these pre-disillusions about the movie and development. Hadn't been to a theater in a decade, but this is worth going to see on the big screen.

Shralla
27th Dec 2012, 04:34
If you haven't been to the theater in a decade, the fact that you would come out of retirement for a video game adaptation is downright offensive to the film medium.

FrankCSIS
29th Dec 2012, 16:37
The thing the movie industry needs to understand is that despite all the attempts from the gaming industry to make games look like interactive movies, the root of gaming actually comes from books, and it shows in their structure and blueprints. The day a game is approached and treated as would a book adaptation, instead of a simple visual adaptation, we might get something decent out of it.

Hell, the movie doesn't even have to be in the same visual style to do the game any justice. That's the whole point of adaptation. And that's why movies like Max Payne were doomed to fail. Style over substance, really. There just wasn't any point in trying to adapt that game, especially the way they did. Mel Gibson's Payback already covered every aspect of this kind of noir film one could hope to make with a story similar to Max Payne.

That's also mostly why Grim Fandango, the best story line ever put together for gaming, would never get made. What would be the point anyway? Might as well just put all the cutscenes together back to back and enjoy the show! Although I will admit, I've been seriously considering doing Grim Fandango: The Musical. You know that would be ridiculously awesome!

ZakKa89
29th Dec 2012, 16:41
Payback is definitely the closest to a max payne movie. Love that flick. Check out Get the Gringo a.k.a how I spent my summer vacation. It is basically payback 2

FrankCSIS
29th Dec 2012, 16:56
Thanks for the heads up! Not sure why I've never heard of this release, but I'll be sure to catch it. Really enjoyed Payback.

ZakKa89
29th Dec 2012, 19:42
Thanks for the heads up! Not sure why I've never heard of this release, but I'll be sure to catch it. Really enjoyed Payback.

You have never heard of it because nobody wants to 'invest' in Mel Gibson anymore since he's been in the news so negatively. He has to fund his own movies, and the movie didn't get a wide release. Enjoy!

hybridex
1st Jan 2013, 15:57
If you haven't been to the theater in a decade, the fact that you would come out of retirement for a video game adaptation is downright offensive to the film medium.

This is the only time I will entertain your offensive comment. You need to get off your high toilet and cease criticizing others on here. The mere fact of your reply is downright offensive to this forum medium.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
1st Jan 2013, 16:00
Play nice please. :)

Ilves
3rd Jan 2013, 10:40
Just pondering options for the AJ casting call here: I keep getting Jensen vibes whenever I see Peter Franzén. He has the metro thing going, and has gotten a bit of a darker edge over the past years. Plus he's Finnish, so you know he's got the introspective brooding down to perfection. :p




Not entirely convincved about his acting chops- last action flick I saw him in was pretty terrible- but visually I think there´s some potential Jensen material there.

http://i2.listal.com/image/2505390/600full-peter-franzen.jpg


http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/horizontal/1135228792497.jpeg


I mean look at those two, that´s his on screen & real life partner Irina Björklund. Squint, and tell me that´s not Meghan and Jensen!

Rainbow6Team
11th Jan 2013, 03:58
They could give Jensen a bit more personality in the movie.

I understand what happened to him and all but lets not make him a cold stiff,alright?

Next hopefully they give Barrett screentime,he was killed off to early in the game so maybe movie will chang that.

And lets not bother casting an actress for Megean Reed,she only showed up in the beginning and near the end of the game,the game wants us to believe she is an important character but in reality she's not.Save some money and throw in a briefcase full of important documents and flashdrives,the whole boyfriend and girlfriend plot was just dumb.

CyberP
11th Jan 2013, 06:54
They could give Jensen a bit more personality in the movie.

I understand what happened to him and all but lets not make him a cold stiff,alright?
.

Jensen being a "cold stiff" in the movie would be staying true to the game.

Well Jensen had personality. An excellent character, imo. DX:HR had it's flaws but Jensen wasn't one of em.

Anyway, the idea of a DX movie makes me cringe, because it will most likely be bad if previous video game adaptations are anything to go by + the current trash hollywood produces. But at least it would bring more attention to the Deus Ex franchise, which is long overdue.

ROCK STARTIST
28th Feb 2013, 19:50
I'm really excited about this, unfortunately its not going to be directed by Ridley Scott, but this Scott Derickson director sounds like he knows what he's talking about, for example he played the games and wants to make it a cyberpunk FILM vs a video game MOVIE.

Shralla
28th Feb 2013, 21:41
This is the only time I will entertain your offensive comment. You need to get off your high toilet and cease criticizing others on here. The mere fact of your reply is downright offensive to this forum medium.

I missed this reply, and I kind of see what you're trying to do here, but you failed pretty miserably, especially since the entire last sentence doesn't make any sense at all. And it's still offensive that you would skip all the fantastic films that have come out in the last ten years to see a ****ty video game adaptation by a crappy director.

FreedomForever
28th Feb 2013, 21:44
Kind of sucks if they make a movie about Jensen.


It pisses me off that Deus Ex/JC Denton doesn't get the respect it should because it came out before video games were super mainstream......This is the only reason Jensen is getting attn, because he way too mainstream.


In my opinion they need to focus on JC Denton/around the time of the first Deus Ex storyline.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
28th Feb 2013, 23:50
I missed this reply....

Just as well, we've moved on since mods suggested we all play nice.
If you wish to continue with personal comments/attacks, do so via PM. :thumb:

El_Bel
1st Mar 2013, 04:59
Kind of sucks if they make a movie about Jensen.


It pisses me off that Deus Ex/JC Denton doesn't get the respect it should because it came out before video games were super mainstream......This is the only reason Jensen is getting attn, because he way too mainstream.


In my opinion they need to focus on JC Denton/around the time of the first Deus Ex storyline.

Well, they tried, back in the days of the original. Too bad it got canceled.

TheYouthCounselor
6th Mar 2013, 08:48
Goth-punk is a very interesting art style. It's just that Deus Ex did not have the graphic fidelity to portrey it very well. But it was in there.

[Images snipped]


Take a look at the protagonist and everyone else who is wearing a trenchcoat.

The humurous references about the state of the world. The chocolate has recycled humans in it! Legal euthanasia for just 10.000 credits. All this give the world it's style.

I'm sorry but all of those are a dime a dozen! If this was done even earlier it would have dismissed as another Matrix, Ghost in the Shell, Equilibrium, Underworld knock off and probably gone direct to video. (It does borrow extensively from The Matrix and Ghost in the Shell.

In 2000 when I (actually my cousin while I watched) first booted up the Deus Ex demo I admittedly thought "Damn this looks like an ugly game. Why is everyone so stiff?" I had been spoiled by the gorgeous graphics and amazing animation found in Half-Life, Tribes, Unreal Tournament, and Quake 3.

But it was the story, story options, characters, and freedom of play that drew us in and made us purchase the game. (Well he did, but the Amazon (or was it NewEgg?) order came with two copies of the game and two instruction manuals! Score! I wonder if anyone complained of getting an empty box?)

It wasn't until we reached Hong Kong's Tonnochi Road that we saw what all that hoity toity next-gen Unreal Engine hype was all about.

Shralla
6th Mar 2013, 10:11
Deus Ex looks significantly better than literally all of those games you named, due in no small part to having come out several years after all of them.

Sjors
1st Apr 2013, 13:06
I think Barry Weiss (see him on the tv-show Storage Wars) would be a good cast for playing David Sarif. So please get him in the movie! :) His voice and character fits perfect to this role. I think he also have a great sence of humor, which could be usefull in this movie.

http://postimg.org/image/enibst76p/

http://marikoh.tumblr.com/image/19620310542

hybridex
26th Jun 2013, 19:32
Anybody hear anymore on this? Any updates?

Lady_Of_The_Vine
5th Aug 2014, 23:27
The latest article was last month:

Predators writer to work on Deux Ex screenplay as Scott Derrickson exits


There haven’t been many updates on the Deus Ex movie since the big-screen adaptation of the hit game franchise was announced by Eidos Montreal and CBS Films back in 2012, but apparently the project is still moving forward — albeit with a new writer and director....

Read full article here:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/predators-writer-work-deux-ex-screenplay-scott-derrickson-exits/#!bwJuYX

BridgetFisher
5th Aug 2014, 23:44
The predator writer is a good choice, this is right up his alley. Im excited to hear some ongoing news... He should drop by and say Hi so we can say hi back :D

Shralla
6th Aug 2014, 01:34
The predator writer is a good choice, this is right up his alley. Im excited to hear some ongoing news... He should drop by and say Hi so we can say hi back :D

You do know this is Predators we're talking about, not Predator? Predators was terrible 21st century sci-fi schlock.

This isn't any better, especially considering Derrickson clearly bailed for a vastly superior project.

CyberP
6th Aug 2014, 01:58
Predators was terrible 21st century sci-fi schlock.

It wasn't bad considering. Better than AVP at least.


This isn't any better, especially considering Derrickson clearly bailed for a vastly superior project.

IF you say so...

Shralla
6th Aug 2014, 02:12
There is no chance this turns out better than Dr. Strange. All of the Marvel movies have been pretty good, with Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 being the weak points, but still acceptable given that better movies came out after both of them.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 02:12
Two very different movies, and each has the potential to be weird and wonderful. :cool:
Apparently Doctor Strange will be heavily influenced by Ditko and Lee's original comics and Marvel Studios' president has stated that the movie will be a "crazy acid trip".

WildcatPhoenix
6th Aug 2014, 03:08
Let's be real here. The Derrickson/Cargill combination didn't inspire much enthusiasm, but you're not going to sell me on this project by tacking on "from the writer of Predators (2010)."

I guess I'll withhold final judgment until we hear who is going to be directing the film. The planned February 2015 release should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of this production, however.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 10:04
Let's be real here... nobody is trying to sell you anything. :p

There is no release date set for Deus Ex at this point; but even if there was, it does NOT tell me "all I need to know about the quality of the movie".
I will have to wait for completion and watch it before I can judge fairly.

WildcatPhoenix
6th Aug 2014, 13:50
Let's be real here... nobody is trying to sell you anything. :p

They most certainly are. They're trying to sell me on the price of a movie ticket and/or DVD or digital copy.



There is no release date set for Deus Ex at this point; but even if there was, it does NOT tell me "all I need to know about the quality of the movie".


I apparently misread a couple of the articles, which said that Michael Finch (new screenwriter) also wrote Hitman: Agent 47, which comes out in February 2015.



I will have to wait for completion and watch it before I can judge fairly.

Obviously, but you can't possibly think the signs are pointing in a positive direction at this point, can you? Oh wait, who am I kidding, of course you can.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 14:36
Try to stick to discussing the actual topic in hand and not the people posting. When you make posts personal... it just comes across like you think you're all elitist and superior, which nobody is; of course. ;)
But to answer. I haven't made my mind up whether its a negative or positive direction at this point.

So, back to the topic itself.

They're trying to sell me on the price of a movie ticket and/or DVD or digital copy.
Being offered something is nothing to worry about, is it? A sale isn't a sale until the exchange of goods and money.


I apparently misread a couple of the articles...
Oh okay, fair enough.

Shralla
6th Aug 2014, 19:20
Being offered something is nothing to worry about, is it? A sale isn't a sale until the exchange of goods and money.

Who's worrying? The movie's going to be crap. It was a decision out of left field, was suddenly put into production at a mediocre studio, and given a mediocre director. Square Enix is not Marvel. They don't have a giant multimedia conglomerate backing them up, providing them with the experienced staff and resources necessary to take a quality leap onto the silver screen. Every single video game to movie adaptation has been terrible. Every single one! There is nothing about this project to suggest anything is different, and like I said the director bailed for a project where he could get the support to make a quality movie. If he had thought he could make anything good out of Deus Ex, I'm sure he would have stayed.

The entire decision was clearly made in haste, with Square Enix trying to figure out any way that they could squeeze more money out of their franchises. Unfortunately they gave no real thought as to which of their franchises would be best suited for a movie adaptation, or how to best adapt them to the screen, instead opting with whatever the cheapest and easiest option they came across was. That's now how you get a solid film in any circumstances.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 20:51
The movie's going to be crap.
You could be right... you could be wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, regardless. :p


Unfortunately they gave no real thought as to which of their franchises would be best suited for a movie adaptation..
I think the DX franchise is perfectly suitable for a movie adaptation.

Shralla
6th Aug 2014, 20:59
There is far FAR too much content in Deus Ex (even Human Revolution) for it to make a good movie. That's exactly why the original never got turned into a movie, because they would have to cut dozens of characters and locations just to make it fit the ridiculously constrictive format of a feature film. We're not going to get a Deus Ex-like story out of a two hour movie. That is not enough time to tell that sort of tale.

I would be all about Deus Ex as a TV show, as long as it wasn't on a stupid network. Books and video games are, for the most part, far better off being adapted into TV shows as it provides significantly more time to tell the story, introduce characters, etc. That is exactly why The X-Files (huge inspiration for Deus Ex) was a TV show. Unraveling a conspiracy on the level of Deus Ex wouldn't fee at all meaningful after a two hour movie, but after a season of a show? Just the conspiracy nature of the story alone makes it a poor candidate for a movie adaptation.

CyberP
6th Aug 2014, 21:05
There is far FAR too much content in Deus Ex (even Human Revolution) for it to make a good movie. That's exactly why the original never got turned into a movie, because they would have to cut dozens of characters and locations just to make it fit the ridiculously constrictive format of a feature film. We're not going to get a Deus Ex-like story out of a two hour movie. That is not enough time to tell that sort of tale.

I would be all about Deus Ex as a TV show, as long as it wasn't on a stupid network. Books and video games are, for the most part, far better off being adapted into TV shows as it provides significantly more time to tell the story, introduce characters, etc. That is exactly why The X-Files (huge inspiration for Deus Ex) was a TV show. Unraveling a conspiracy on the level of Deus Ex wouldn't fee at all meaningful after a two hour movie, but after a season of a show? Just the conspiracy nature of the story alone makes it a poor candidate for a movie adaptation.

What conspiracy? It will be about rescuing the protagonist's girlfriend and feature a bucketload of cinematic takedowns. :p
Seriously though, well argued.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 21:08
There is far FAR too much content in Deus Ex (even Human Revolution) for it to make a good movie....We're not going to get a Deus Ex-like story out of a two hour movie. That is not enough time to tell that sort of tale.
Must the 'entire' tale be told in any case?
Many movie and television adaptations make selective cuts; it doesn't mean they're going to end up being crap.

WildcatPhoenix
6th Aug 2014, 22:20
As far as I can see, there are really only two options to make the original Deus Ex as a feature film:

Option 1
Go the Doom, Max Payne, Resident Evil, etc route. Take the basic premise of the game and maybe a handful of key characters and produce a single, contained, far more limited version of the story.

Option 2
Go the Wing Commander route. Introduce the primary conflict and set up your characters' origins, leaving the ending on a cliff-hanger in hopes of starting a franchise. One would imagine such a film would begin with JC's arrival at Liberty Island and end with his escape from the MJ12 prison cell.

Neither of these two options get me very excited. In the case of Option 1, you get a watered down, barely recognizable facsimile of the characters and world of the games. In the case of Option 2, you're banking on a franchise which may never come about (such as Wing Commander).

Now, if the producers of Wing Commander had chosen not to cast Freddie Prinze, Jr. and Matt Lillard as their leads, and had they chosen not to release so close to friggin' Star Wars, and had they not butchered the story and characters in similar fashion to Option 1, perhaps this approach would've worked.

Human Revolution, on the other hand, lends itself better to a film format since the story is so self-contained (read: "small") and hits all the current, cliché action movie beats:
-vengeance-based quest
-reluctant protagonist
-hero learning to acclimate to newfound super-powers (I can see the training montage already)
-zombies
-lots of wire-fu and elaborate martial arts takedowns

With all the cinematics and third person animations, DXHR felt more like a movie than DX1 did anyway.

AdrianShephard
6th Aug 2014, 22:22
There is far FAR too much content in Deus Ex (even Human Revolution) for it to make a good movie. That's exactly why the original never got turned into a movie, because they would have to cut dozens of characters and locations just to make it fit the ridiculously constrictive format of a feature film. We're not going to get a Deus Ex-like story out of a two hour movie. That is not enough time to tell that sort of tale.

I would be all about Deus Ex as a TV show, as long as it wasn't on a stupid network. Books and video games are, for the most part, far better off being adapted into TV shows as it provides significantly more time to tell the story, introduce characters, etc. That is exactly why The X-Files (huge inspiration for Deus Ex) was a TV show. Unraveling a conspiracy on the level of Deus Ex wouldn't fee at all meaningful after a two hour movie, but after a season of a show? Just the conspiracy nature of the story alone makes it a poor candidate for a movie adaptation.

:thumb:

X-Files is my favorite TV series.



Must the 'entire' tale be told in any case?
Many movie and television adaptations make selective cuts; it doesn't mean they're going to end up being crap.

Not much of a tale to tell with HR. If you are referring to DX, then I don't think there would be any justified selective cuts. All the characters have a strong role in the story...though I can see someone like Harley Filben or Green (reporter dude) not be featured.

As Wildcat said, HR is a generic story, so making it into a movie wouldn't be hard. I can already confidently say that it will bomb, and potentially hurt the franchise name.

WildcatPhoenix
6th Aug 2014, 22:26
Not much of a tale to tell with HR. If you are referring to DX, then I don't think there would be any justified selective cuts. All the characters have a role in the story.

Not necessarily all of them. Guys like The Smuggler or Sam Carter or Tiffany Savage could all easily be left out of a film adaptation. Not that they're boring characters or anything, but they don't factor in very importantly in the overall plot of the game.

AdrianShephard
6th Aug 2014, 22:32
Not necessarily all of them. Guys like The Smuggler or Sam Carter or Tiffany Savage could all easily be left out of a film adaptation. Not that they're boring characters or anything, but they don't factor in very importantly in the overall plot of the game.

Yeah I sorta realized this after I wrote my comment. Let's just say I would be offended if those people weren't featured in a DX adaptation.

Sam Carter, though...he's a nice foil in the story. He's the only good guy at UNATCO that has experienced violence first hand and knows the turmoil and agent goes through when they are handed tough orders.

WildcatPhoenix
6th Aug 2014, 22:35
Yeah I sorta realized this after I wrote my comment. Let's just say I would be offended if those people weren't featured in a DX adaptation.

Sam Carter, though...he's a nice foil in the story. He's the only good guy at UNATCO that has experienced violence first hand and knows the turmoil and agent goes through when they are handed tough orders.

Sure, I love Carter (and The Smuggler and all the rest). I'd much, much rather see DX1 as a mini-series or a full season TV show, with time to explore the fascinating side characters and really dig into the world.

I'm just saying, in a 2 hour film, you wouldn't have even remotely enough screentime for characters like Carter to make an appearance.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 22:43
Not much of a tale to tell with HR.
There is a lot to HR's tale to be told; human augmentation is the next big thing.


If you are referring to DX, then I don't think there would be any justified selective cuts. All the characters have a strong role in the story...though I can see someone like Harley Filben or Green (reporter dude) not be featured.
I wasn't referring to DX simply because I thought it was confirmed last year that the movie is based on HR. Do I remember this correctly? :scratch:

AdrianShephard
6th Aug 2014, 22:45
There is a lot to HR's tale to be told; human augmentation is the next big thing.

HR barely told us anything about augmentation and society. It was mostly a revenge quest with a few comments on what the general population thought about the advancing tech.



I wasn't referring to DX simply because I thought it was confirmed last year that the movie is based on HR. Do I remember this correctly? :scratch:

My fault. Just started participating in this thread and wasn't paying attention.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 23:13
I find HR's characters, factions and plot to be extensive enough to use in a movie.

AdrianShephard
6th Aug 2014, 23:18
I find HR's characters, factions and plot to be extensive enough to use in a movie.

You are right; everyone falls under the categories of good guy and bad guy relatively early on. That would fit in nicely into the crap movies out today.:)

CyberP
6th Aug 2014, 23:21
everyone falls under the categories of good guy and bad guy relatively early on.

Except Sarif. I wasn't sure where EM was going with him. Megan also, maybe I missed the signs but I didn't see that coming. And of course Pritchard, you are made to think he is a snarky arrogant prick to begin with, well, which he is, but you warm to him a little over time and of course he is an alright guy in the end.

I really don't like the idea of a DX film. Nothing can match what the games can.
We already had our Deus Ex film, that short indie production. That's what we'll get from Hollywood.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 23:33
You are right; everyone falls under the categories of good guy and bad guy relatively early on.

Keeping it real, there was a lot more to the plot than just good guy, bad guy. :p

AdrianShephard
6th Aug 2014, 23:36
Except Sarif. I wasn't sure where EM was going with him. Megan also, maybe I missed the signs but I didn't see that coming. And of course Pritchard, you are made to think he is a snarky arrogant prick to begin with, well, which he is, but you warm to him a little over time and of course he is an alright guy in the end.

I really don't like the idea of a DX film. Nothing can match what the games can.
We already had our Deus Ex film, that short indie production. That's what we'll get from Hollywood.

TBH, I was sort of expecting Pritchard to be a double agent. Sarif also was an uneasy character but EM decided that doing nothing with him was the best.



Keeping it real, there was a lot more to the plot than just good guy, bad guy.

Oh how I wish, Viktoria. Educate me.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
6th Aug 2014, 23:42
Oh how I wish, Viktoria. Educate me.

No problems. Check Wiki. Its quicker than me typing it all. :p

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 01:22
No problems. Check Wiki. Its quicker than me typing it all. :p

I did. In the wikia page of HR, I see a "synopsis" heading that doesn't mention any twists, no big reveal, no interconnected conspiracy. All I see is a washed up, angry, obedient police dog that chases after the girl (using the excuse of 'rescuing scientists') who dumped him while using his newly acquired augmentations to cover up for his lack of intelligence during the frequent conversations that are peppered in so that EM can add the "social approach" and label the game as being 'revolutionary' (it's not). HR is riding high on the success of the original DX but ironically doesn't want customers to play DX because then they'll see what a hack job EM's writing department is. Then I mosey on down to the DX wikia page where I'm greeted with the "backstory" tab and the "plot" tab...because DX is much more than one straightforward linear line of missions. We...you know...get some insight to what kind of world we are being put in. We learn about what the common folk are going through, we learn about the conflict between rebels and the government, mass surveillance etc. And the beauty of it is that none of the backstory is forced on the player. Ah...but if HR had backstory, EM would be plastering it on the walls, showing the player that hours and hours of work was put into the game so you sure as hell better read it. Our favorite grunt is told of his screw up from his previous job right at the beginning and is constantly mocked throughout the entire game, his only response to this is threatening people...because he is a stupid grunt. Contrast this with a character like JC who can hold his own in a philosophical discussion and provide valid points in an argument instead of intimidation, and you'll see why scratchy-voice is unworthy of a movie. All the poorly developed characters in HR are miles smarter than the main joke, and the developers had no problem with this. The only complicated part about HR's story is figuring out a reason why all the endings are the same stock footage of random things with our police dog (EDIT: washed up police dog) all of the sudden earning a philosophy degree from the same online university where he got his criminal justice degree.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
7th Aug 2014, 01:37
I presumed you had played the game, so didn't need to search Wiki.
If you missed the underlying plot points, I recommend checking out all the interviews with narrative director, Mary DeMarle.

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 02:03
I presumed you had played the game, so didn't need to search Wiki.
If you missed the underlying plot points, I recommend checking out all the interviews with narrative director, Mary DeMarle.

I haven't played HR in about a year and a half, so I didn't know if I was remembering the game correctly (and sadly I did). If I have to rely on developers interviews to learn the underlying plot points, then that's some bad writing. Of course the advertisements and interviews will mention "chaos and conspiracy", though the only conspiracy I recognized was the real reason why Sarif hired Jensen and didn't promote someone marginally smarter to be chief of security. A shame that JC and Paul are somehow related to Jensen (I still don't fully understand this as I thought JC was a clone of Paul, who was a normal child). I bet we would've gotten more fruitful dialogue if Sarif kept Jensen locked up in a guinea pig cage somewhere and we were given a much more insightful, intelligent protagonist

Lady_Of_The_Vine
7th Aug 2014, 02:16
If I have to rely on developers interviews to learn the underlying plot points, then that's some bad writing.
Different people; different reasons. One might forget details because of poor memory, or from not paying enough attention to conversations or readables etc. Your reason is that the writing is bad, that's fine. ;)

Bringing it all back to the original discussion - there is definitely enough content in the game to translate into a movie.

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 02:33
Bringing it all back to the original discussion - there is definitely enough content in the game to translate into a movie.

And I clearly detailed why a 2 hour movie could summarize HR's plot ;)

WildcatPhoenix
7th Aug 2014, 03:21
And I clearly detailed why a 2 hour movie could summarize HR's plot ;)

In competent hands, DXHR might even turn out to be better as a movie than as a game. I'm just not convinced there's enough creativity or willpower behind this particular project to get it done properly.

I think, at best, we'll see another Resident Evil: slick, relatively cheap (by action movie standards), with a couple of interesting scenes dragged down by cookie-cutter characters and dialogue written exclusively to sound cool in the trailers.

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 03:32
dialogue written exclusively to sound cool in the trailers.

They could hire EM for this.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
7th Aug 2014, 07:44
And I clearly detailed why a 2 hour movie could summarize HR's plot ;)
You clearly said there was not much of a tale to tell with HR. :p


In competent hands, DXHR might even turn out to be better as a movie than ....
Yep. And this is true of anything. :thumb:

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 15:36
You clearly said there was not much of a tale to tell with HR.

Which is why it would fit into a 2 hour movie.

Shralla
7th Aug 2014, 18:05
Yep. And this is true of anything. :thumb:

Haha what? No it absolutely isn't. The vast majority of anything would be terrible as anything else, and even if done right would never be as good as the original, never mind better.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
7th Aug 2014, 18:43
Which is why it would fit into a 2 hour movie.
Cool. Movie duration time not an issue then. I thought you were originally claiming there wasn't any story in HR to make a movie, period.


Haha what? No it absolutely isn't. The vast majority of anything would be terrible as anything else, and even if done right would never be as good as the original, never mind better.
Haha what? I agreed with the term "might be" not "definitely would be" and stated that this would be true of everything, not just a video game.
In the right hands, games/movies/books/song/gadgets/designs etc etc might turn out to be better than the original. It just depends... so you can never say never. :p

Shralla
7th Aug 2014, 19:06
We're talking about adapting one medium to another. Provided the source material was genuinely any good, adapting it to any other medium will never yield as good a result, because the original will have been made in such a way that it could only be expressed through that medium.

Perfect example, The Giver is going to be mediocre movie at best because the entire twist of the book is given away the second you start watching. The only way that story can effectively be communicated is via text. Watchmen was made into the best movie it could have been, which wasn't very good because Alan Moore wrote and designed it to be a comic in a way that it would never work in any other medium. Any genuinely great video game relies on the fact that it is interactive to tell a story in a way that you could not with other mediums.

AdrianShephard
7th Aug 2014, 19:48
Cool. Movie duration time not an issue then. I thought you were originally claiming there wasn't any story in HR to make a movie, period.

The fact that movie duration is not an issue with a Deus Ex game speaks for itself. Even Invisible War couldn't be made into a 2-3 hour movie.

HR feels like a movie already with it's relatively unoriginal plot. Would fit in nicely with the recent films made.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
7th Aug 2014, 21:16
I really like the idea of an IW movie. So many questions left unanswered. :naughty:
HR should easily fit into a movie; agreed.


Provided the source material was genuinely any good, adapting it to any other medium will never yield as good a result, because the original will have been made in such a way that it could only be expressed through that medium.
I don't disagree that certain elements might not/will not translate very well to other medium; same as I would agree that certain elements might. It depends on many things really and I would not expect the movie to be exactly the same experience as the game in any case.

FrankCSIS
8th Aug 2014, 00:54
+1 to the notion that HR would be ridiculously easy to adapt. The narrative is structured like a film. The problem is the tech is a lot more interesting than the story, and so we can already predict with ease, in details, how the film will turn.

As to a DX film, I personally see only one way to approach it, albeit a very incomplete one. There is absolutely no point in attempting to tell a classically-structured DX story in this format. You can't tell the story of JC. You can't explore the whole conspiracy. You cannot go in details over all of the social commentaries. Instead what I would do is try, as much as possible, to provide an experience of the DX world, with most of it happening off-screen. The simplest way to picture this is Alien. I really don't know how else to properly explain it!

CyberP
8th Aug 2014, 01:02
As to a DX film, I personally see only one way to approach it, albeit a very incomplete one.

Deus Ex: Adventures of Paul [working title]

The story begins as in the below animation. Then we discover everything he gets up to right until JC merges with Helios (which, if you take IW seriously, is canon).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJo3jdtcjWE

^Awesome, except I dislike that Paul punches JC and throws him out the window into a conveniently-placed dumpster a lethal distance down. That's dumb.

What I like about this animation the most? Action done right. No Hollywood bull****. Brutal action, almost no slow-mo, no shaky cam.

AdrianShephard
8th Aug 2014, 01:13
The only way I would see a HR movie:

Search "Disaugmentations" in YouTube. First video that pops up.

^contains swear words if you are afraid of those...

Lady_Of_The_Vine
8th Aug 2014, 01:24
Seen this video before. Its really funny.
Unfortunately the content isn't ToU-friendly so we had to delete the link.

AdrianShephard
8th Aug 2014, 01:28
Seen this video before. Its really funny.
Unfortunately the content isn't ToU-friendly so we had to delete the link.

Damn, sorry didn't know links counted too. Can I at least mention how to watch the video i.e. what to search?

Lady_Of_The_Vine
8th Aug 2014, 01:35
Damn, sorry didn't know links counted too.
Not to worry... its a common mistake.
All content posted via the Eidos boards fall under the rules... even private messages.



Can I at least mention how to watch the video i.e. what to search?
Yes of course. :cool:
Its well worth watching.... would be a shame for anyone to miss out.

AdrianShephard
8th Aug 2014, 01:39
... even PMs

Even PMs?

YAAGHHHH!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dmoHm5YF5E#t=18sec)

Lady_Of_The_Vine
8th Aug 2014, 01:40
Hehe. :D

FrankCSIS
8th Aug 2014, 01:47
Deus Ex: Adventures of Paul [working title]

The story begins as in the below animation. Then we discover everything he gets up to right until JC merges with Helios (which, if you take IW seriously, is canon).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJo3jdtcjWE

^Awesome, except I dislike that Paul punches JC and throws him out the window into a conveniently-placed dumpster a lethal distance down. That's dumb.

What I like about this animation the most? Action done right. No Hollywood bull****. Brutal action, almost no slow-mo, no shaky cam.

I see what you're getting at, but even that may be biting more than it can chew in a film format. Already a much better attempt than the classical approach I'd normally expect to see, though. I'm sure we can meet halfway and find a worthy agreement!

Weird, I saw Trouble at the Ton 2-3 years ago, but never knew of this one! It's a great scene that gives out a lot of info on the world without needlessly trying to explain anything. Right there you've saved about 30 minutes of contextual narrative! Placing Gunther at the scene is extremely clever.

And you're right, the action is classic. Reminds me of Spawn. Works really well with animation. Tough to do in films, but still very much possible.

CyberP
8th Aug 2014, 02:07
Tough to do in films, but still very much possible.

I strongly disagree. There's many great realistic brutal action films. I'd post examples but Viktoria will probably censor them.

FrankCSIS
8th Aug 2014, 02:31
I've seen a good many myself. Still doesn't make it any simple. But you know what I mean...Animations have a way of exaggerating the brutality while remaining fluid and not being too gory. You get more bang for your bang, so to speak. It's a lot easier to frame the shots just right too, and the quick-cut close-ups don't feel like a cheap trick to disguise slow moves into fast-pack punches, but are really there for impact or artistic value.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
8th Aug 2014, 10:03
...but Viktoria will probably censor them.
:eek:
Not that I don't like to be the centre of attention, but I'm not the only moderator on the boards you know. :p

AdrianShephard
11th Aug 2014, 00:34
Even PMs?

YAAGHHHH!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dmoHm5YF5E#t=18sec)

Wow. Just learned that the actor, Peter Marquardt, that made this famous DX yell passed away in late-July :(. Hope he went out with a YAGHH (I would want to). You'll be missed.

LeMoN_LiMe
11th Aug 2014, 06:05
Wow. Just learned that the actor, Peter Marquardt, that made this famous DX yell passed away in late-July :(. Hope he went out with a YAGHH (I would want to). You'll be missed.


May he RIP. I want that scream played at my funeral.

ROCK STARTIST
15th Aug 2014, 14:39
And that the producers and writers stay authentic to the material while maintaining the DE soul By not making any concessions to popcorn audiences.

I am starting to have faith in this film, at least when Scott Derrickson was attached to it , he's making this a "Cyberpunk film versus a video game movie" is good to know!

WildcatPhoenix
15th Aug 2014, 15:48
And that the producers and writers stay authentic to the material while maintaining the DE soul By not making any concessions to popcorn audiences.

I am starting to have faith in this film, at least when Scott Derrickson was attached to it , he's making this a "Cyberpunk film versus a video game movie" is good to know!

Derrickson has moved on from the project. They announced a new writer (Michael Finch, of Predators) who is supposedly re-writing the script. No word yet on who will direct.

AdrianShephard
15th Aug 2014, 15:51
Don't know why but if I was in charge of the movie I would want Neill Blomkamp (District 9, Elysium) to direct.

WildcatPhoenix
15th Aug 2014, 17:49
Don't know why but if I was in charge of the movie I would want Neill Blomkamp (District 9, Elysium) to direct.

I'd rather see Blomkamp tackle something like Halo or MechWarrior. He usually finds the perfect balance between practical effects and CGI, and he obviously has a good eye for action direction and visual design.

I'm not yet convinced he has the subtlety or restraint to make something like Deus Ex work on screen, though. DX's plot, while incredible in the format of a video game, could end up looking pretty silly if not approached carefully (the Illuminati? Area 51? Grays? albino-skinned M/WIBs with robotic voices?).

Shralla
15th Aug 2014, 17:54
To be fair, this is a Human Revolution movie, not a Deus Ex movie. There's significantly less wackiness to contend with in HR.

I do want Neill Blomkamp on Halo though. To be honest I'm way too excited about his next movie to even be thinking about that, though. The guys from one of my favorite bands in a movie by one of my favorite directors? Sign me up.

Mousehunt
5th Sep 2014, 03:17
Certainly has interesting cybernetics and a great Blade Runner-ish style to make into a really great movie.

At best it could be one of the great films, at worst it will be another forgettable hollywood version of a good video game. I hardly even consider movies like Resident Evil, Max Payne or Hitman within the canon of the videogames, almost entirely unrelated, to me anyway.

For Director I might like to have chosen the Drive director Nicolas Winding Refn.

Lady_Of_The_Vine
9th Sep 2014, 19:42
My cybernetic fingers are crossed/ Hope it turns out to be a very good movie.

Miyavi
3rd Oct 2014, 19:41
My cybernetic fingers are crossed/ Hope it turns out to be a very good movie.

Sadly, I can already see failure to appeal to their audience, which leads to a flop, OR maybe they'll get the something like the set production right, and music, which are easy, but dialogue, casting, and oh man story will prob. ruin it,

9x out of 10 it'll revolve around some love story to attract non target audience females, to increase the date attendance

unless its a director that doesn't already have a name, the director chosen will follow industry rules and traditional money making schemes, as well as the screenwriters, and who ever approves the screenplay

I should be happy, but id only really be happy if it were me writing the script, directing, and casting, and along w/ deus ex hr artist having a say on production

many games couldve/could be made into awesome films but other factors come into play, and the only way to get rid of that is to market, plan revenue around the target audience, b/c if the real fans like theyll buy it, the merch, etc. as opposed to trying to create a new audience, that leaves the question, does only the box office matter?

in the case of star wars it didnt, and although box office is important for revenue, widening the audience isn't always the solution

as you can see im already in low hopes

Shralla
3rd Oct 2014, 23:06
How can you build up a global conspiracy, introduce and flesh out all the necessary players, and bring it all to a conclusion in two hours?

FrankCSIS
4th Oct 2014, 00:01
You can't. But TV has spoiled us a little with its multi-season format. Realistically, there is a LOT of ground you can cover in a well-made film, providing scenes are not wasted to address one tiny portion of the story at a time. A good, well-made production manages to flesh out a world in 5 to 10 minutes. I always bring up the same examples, but Robocop or Matrix certainly fleshed out their respective universe in a single film, all the while providing ample characterization of various protagonists. Were they super fleshed out? Not really, no. But they were not entirely superficial either, and certainly more fleshed out than a massive amount of games, HR included.

As for content and a global story, Nolan crammed a hell of a lot of material in Inception, and even had some spare time to throw in some rather long action scenes that sometimes very slightly overstayed their welcome. Gattaca, Dark City, they made their wolrds from scratch and told a great story within the constraint of two hours.

The real issue is we are probably looking at a traditional and inefficient narration coupled with unnecessary and repetitive action scenes with a banal and superficial characterization. In this regard, you can't fit anything in two hours. Especially not a global conspiracy and some transhumanist philosophy.

Miyavi
4th Oct 2014, 03:47
How can you build up a global conspiracy, introduce and flesh out all the necessary players, and bring it all to a conclusion in two hours?

Conclusion? That's the first mistake in your thought process right there.

For one, I wouldn't dare think one film, but I wouldn't go about making the film w/ Hollywood's mindset, so I couldn't imagine a flop w/ a fan base such as this, where there could be tons of feedback, a general inspiration, for ideas, and I'd focus on a specific target audience.

With that settled everything else is simple, being bold for the theory, stay away from typical Hollywood draws

W/ that said lol none of this will happen, sigh

Lady_Of_The_Vine
2nd Mar 2015, 19:12
In the meantime..... anyone else looking forward to viewing "CHAPPiE"?

Shralla
2nd Mar 2015, 21:21
Yes, way more than I'm looking forward to the Deus Ex movie that probably doesn't even exist anymore.