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GoggleboxUK
25th Jun 2012, 18:34
I was watching series 2 of US TV series Warehouse 13 this evening and in one of the episodes the team travel to Egypt to unearth an artifact.

One of the team members takes of her coat to reveal Lara's famous shorts and vest top and someone asks her what she is wearing. She flicks her hair to reveal a pony tail and says "I looked it up, apparently this is what British archaeologists are wearing these days"

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=22979088

The reference is unmistakeably a tongue in cheek nod to Tomb Raider and this got me thinking....

Can you think think of any other references to our Lara in any other media?

If you know of any, or come across any in the future, post them here.

:D

LARALOVERnr1
28th Jun 2012, 18:22
That's pretty cool actually lol

I can remember seeing one a while ago... It was in the... Donald Duck.... :lol:

GoggleboxUK
27th Jul 2012, 18:04
I was watching American Dad the other night it was the Camp Refoogie episode and Steve mentioned Lara.

There's a new show here in the UK called The Midnight Beast, it's about a group of kids who form a band and sing about all kinds of mad stuff.

Lara gets a mention in this but be warned, it's a bit rude in places but very funny:

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Thetford
30th Aug 2012, 19:17
I recall an early episode of King of the Hill where Hank complains to his friends that Bobby is playing a new game called Tomb Raider, a game where you play a girl.

WinterSoldierLTE
1st Sep 2012, 23:37
Recently read Andy McDermott's "The Hunt For Atlantis" & "The Tomb Of Hercules" and there are quite a few nods to TR in those. But then again, it's about a female archeologist trapsing across the globe stopping bad guys, so I think he kind of HAD to refference TR. Alright, I'll just say it: At times it feels as tho he straight up ripped off TR. Tho admittedly, there are some differences. But sheesh, just look up the titles of his books and tell me: "Nah, you're just being paranoid, mate."

One kind of cool thing tho: His female archelogists name is Nina, and her parents are Laura and Henry (yeah, tons of Indiana Jones referrences as well). I mean I'm not saying they're bad books, I found them to be fairly enjoyable, but man, sometimes you just go: "Oh come on! That's just a scene from 'Raiders Of The Lost Ark' mixed with the oil rig level from TR2!".

I could be a minority in that train of thought tho...

GoggleboxUK
3rd Sep 2012, 12:49
:lol: WS, I am going to have to read them now!!

:lol:

WinterSoldierLTE
7th Sep 2012, 18:41
:lol: WS, I am going to have to read them now!!

:lol:

Actually, I do recommend them. Mind you tho, I've only read 2 out the 8 or 10 of them (as of this writting, anyways. Actually picked up "The Secret Of Excaliber" just yesterday). I mean, yeah, you can tell the influence for sure, but at the same time they are a different animal. They're not bad, just sometimes not the most original.

hiropon056
24th Nov 2012, 14:04
I watched the movie "Wreck-it Ralph" a few days ago and there Lara is also mentioned :D When Ralph was asked for his name in a security check he said "Lara Croft!" ^^ Unfortunately she doesn't really have a cameo in this movie

And I re-watched "The Descent" a while ago and although Lara isn't mentioned by name, one of the girls says " I'm an English teacher, not f***ing Tomb Raider!" before climbing down the cave ^^ which is pretty funny if you remeber that this movie has big influences on the new Tomb Raider game :D

Driber
26th Nov 2012, 08:46
^ haha, awesome!

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Okay, so howcome nobody mentioned Relic Hunter yet :D

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hiropon056
29th Nov 2012, 03:11
^
Okay.... this is so obvious it's already ridicoclous lol

Cristiavano
27th Mar 2013, 04:41
My dad recently rented the movie "Wreck-it Ralph" for my younger sister. It is a disney movie but at the beginning when the main character Ralph is questioned who he is he goes "Who do you think i am Lera Croft?" (he pronounced it that way lol) but it gave me a smile because it referenced tomb raider or the main character. have there been similar cases?


P.s. Was square enix or whomever paying disney to reference it lol?

I also noticed it was released on DVD on March 5th in NA ;)

Indiana Jones
27th Mar 2013, 10:51
This scene was very prominent in the trailers of this movie. :D

In Disney's Mulan Mushu says that Mulan is acting like Lara Croft or something like this and in the movie Ali G Indahouse Ali and his gang plan to break into a manor and he explains everything about the security system and at the end he says "just like in Tomb Raider III". :D

I don't think that the movie producers get payed for those references, it's just a usual pop culture reference. ;)

DrCroft
28th Mar 2013, 15:41
Ok I have watched Mulan so many times and never noticed that! *to the DVD player!*

Driber
3rd Apr 2013, 20:30
Just saw Lara being referenced in a recent episode of How I met Your Mother! :D

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dark7angel
3rd Apr 2013, 20:45
I'm not 100% sure, but I think I remember someone telling me there was a reference on Dexter - his girlfriend Rita dresses as Lara for Halloween or something!

DrCroft
3rd Apr 2013, 21:49
I am sure in PS2 game Primal there was a gravestone that said "RIP Lara Croft"!

Cristiavano
3rd Apr 2013, 22:18
In "Mulan" mushu mentions something about Lara Croft.

GoggleboxUK
8th Apr 2013, 13:19
Have a look at this thread:

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=126757

Driber
20th May 2013, 07:53
^ merged :)

LadyZu
25th May 2013, 00:23
In the game Art Of Murder:FBI Confidential at some boss yells at the protagonist "Stop playing Lara Croft!" when she comes back from the Peru.

Wh1t3Kn1te
1st Jun 2013, 00:52
i love warehouse 13. my wife and I started watching it a couple months ago and we caught that too. we are near the middle of season 3 right now trying to get caught up lol

Driber
2nd Feb 2014, 14:56
I'm not 100% sure, but I think I remember someone telling me there was a reference on Dexter - his girlfriend Rita dresses as Lara for Halloween or something!

I started to watch Dexter recently and I just saw that episode!

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"You raid tombs like that? Impressive!"

:lol:

Murphdawg1
2nd Feb 2014, 15:15
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Lara Croft/Tomb Raider easter egg in Hitman Absolution.

AdobeArtist
2nd Feb 2014, 16:57
This scene from Wreck it Ralph always cracks me up, even with the mispronounciation :p Of course the whole movie is rife with historical gaming reference. Every gamer needs to see this :wave:

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kiadaw
2nd Feb 2014, 17:17
This scene from Wreck it Ralph always cracks me up, even with the mispronounciation :p Of course the whole movie is rife with historical gaming reference. Every gamer needs to see this :wave:

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Got to rent this movie.

Thetford
2nd Feb 2014, 17:21
http://kinomusorka.ru/views/data/images/cd3eb643a8dabe3608577210aa4fd856.jpg
I just wonder who on Earth she is based off ...

AdobeArtist
2nd Feb 2014, 19:19
http://kinomusorka.ru/views/data/images/cd3eb643a8dabe3608577210aa4fd856.jpg
I just wonder who on Earth she is based off ...

What is that?? :scratch::scratch:

Thetford
2nd Feb 2014, 19:50
What is that?? :scratch::scratch:

She is Amelia von Butch from Scooby Doo, Where's My Mummy, an adventure archaeologist who raids an plunders tombs for personal wealth and glory, trained in martial arts and has advanced knowledge of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. She is thwarted by the villain, Velma

My guess is that afterwards, she marries a nice guy named Richard and has a daughter.

Woogiemush
3rd Feb 2014, 07:15
Life With Derek.

Casey plays a game called "Babe Raider". The whole episode is actually based around the game, and how sexist it is.

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Driber
3rd Feb 2014, 13:42
She is Amelia von Butch from Scooby Doo, Where's My Mummy, an adventure archaeologist who raids an plunders tombs for personal wealth and glory, trained in martial arts and has advanced knowledge of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. She is thwarted by the villain, Velma

My guess is that afterwards, she marries a nice guy named Richard and has a daughter.

That cartoon looks kind of old. Wasn't it made before 1996? :scratch:


Life With Derek.

Casey plays a game called "Babe Raider". The whole episode is actually based around the game, and how sexist it is.

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Heh, nice find!

Though you shouldn't use the term "sexist" because it doesn't apply here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the girl in that video is talking about objectification of women. That is something quite different than sexism.

Thetford
3rd Feb 2014, 15:46
That cartoon looks kind of old. Wasn't it made before 1996? :scratch:

It was made in 2005

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Driber
3rd Feb 2014, 19:21
It was made in 2005

Ah, okay :)

Woogiemush
3rd Feb 2014, 21:38
That cartoon looks kind of old. Wasn't it made before 1996? :scratch:



Heh, nice find!

Though you shouldn't use the term "sexist" because it doesn't apply here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the girl in that video is talking about objectification of women. That is something quite different than sexism.


She is talking about sexism, not objectification. (It isn't the whole episode).

The episode is about the girl, Casey who lives in a household of men and only one girl. She see's her brother playing "Babe Raider", and is disgusted at how women are portrayed with big breasts and perfect bodies. She then starts a whole campaign against it at school.

Official Summary: Casey notices Derek, Sam and Edwin playing a sexist video game (Babe Raider) and immediately launches a campaign against the sexist attitudes in the house, and in the videogame Babe Raider.

"One look at Babe Raider says everything; it's sexist, it's degrading, it creates impossible to live up images of women and gives boys the wronge impression that this is what girls are supposed to look like. It has the potential to turn boys into drooling pigs, but, the point is I love this game. Yes, Babe Raiders clothes are to tight and her chest is to big, but, as a girl I found playing this game empowering, this game is about a strong strategic woman who defends herself and is stronger against her oppressor."
- Casey

Overall, I guess we are both right.

Driber
4th Feb 2014, 12:55
She is talking about sexism, not objectification. (It isn't the whole episode).

The episode is about the girl, Casey who lives in a household of men and only one girl. She see's her brother playing "Babe Raider", and is disgusted at how women are portrayed with big breasts and perfect bodies. She then starts a whole campaign against it at school.

Official Summary: Casey notices Derek, Sam and Edwin playing a sexist video game (Babe Raider) and immediately launches a campaign against the sexist attitudes in the house, and in the videogame Babe Raider.

"One look at Babe Raider says everything; it's sexist, it's degrading, it creates impossible to live up images of women and gives boys the wronge impression that this is what girls are supposed to look like. It has the potential to turn boys into drooling pigs, but, the point is I love this game. Yes, Babe Raiders clothes are to tight and her chest is to big, but, as a girl I found playing this game empowering, this game is about a strong strategic woman who defends herself and is stronger against her oppressor."
- Casey

Overall, I guess we are both right.

Sorry to disagree again, but that description you gave me shows that I was right and that the girl in the show indeed is talking about objectification.

Now, she may have used the word "sexist", but that doesn't mean she was correct that the fictional game in that show (which is obviously a 1:1 comparison of TR) was sexist. And that was my point.

Does the game promote stereotypical gender roles for women? Does the show discriminate against women? I have only seen the clips you showed us and not the entire episode, but I bet it doesn't. If I'm incorrect, I'll happily admit that I assumed wrong.

I don't blame the writers of that show for their ignorance, though - it's a common misconception that objectification = sexism. But it isn't. And I think it's important for people to understand the critical difference between these two terms. I don't like TR being accused of sexism, because it is a serious accusation. You wouldn't like it if people call the devs racist, either, would you?

Woogiemush
4th Feb 2014, 18:01
Sorry to disagree again, but that description you gave me shows that I was right and that the girl in the show indeed is talking about objectification.

Now, she may have used the word "sexist", but that doesn't mean she was correct that the fictional game in that show (which is obviously a 1:1 comparison of TR) was sexist. And that was my point.

Does the game promote stereotypical gender roles for women? Does the show discriminate against women? I have only seen the clips you showed us and not the entire episode, but I bet it doesn't. If I'm incorrect, I'll happily admit that I assumed wrong.

I don't blame the writers of that show for their ignorance, though - it's a common misconception that objectification = sexism. But it isn't. And I think it's important for people to understand the critical difference between these two terms. I don't like TR being accused of sexism, because it is a serious accusation. You wouldn't like it if people call the devs racist, either, would you?

Listen, I put a comment in here to put input, not be told what's right and wrong. So if you could kindly not respond to my reply's any more, that'd be great.

mahey31
4th Feb 2014, 18:03
Sorry to disagree again, but that description you gave me shows that I was right and that the girl in the show indeed is talking about objectification.

Now, she may have used the word "sexist", but that doesn't mean she was correct that the fictional game in that show (which is obviously a 1:1 comparison of TR) was sexist. And that was my point.

Does the game promote stereotypical gender roles for women? Does the show discriminate against women? I have only seen the clips you showed us and not the entire episode, but I bet it doesn't. If I'm incorrect, I'll happily admit that I assumed wrong.

I don't blame the writers of that show for their ignorance, though - it's a common misconception that objectification = sexism. But it isn't. And I think it's important for people to understand the critical difference between these two terms. I don't like TR being accused of sexism, because it is a serious accusation. You wouldn't like it if people call the devs racist, either, would you?
If you think about it, objectification and sexism are hand in hand. Objectification could be defined as seeing women as merely objects, here for their looks and aesthetic appeal. Sexism, like you said, promotes stereotypical gender roles. If objectification implies that a woman's role is to be a (sexy) object, could that not be seen as sexism, as well?
My thoughts are scattered here, but hopefully my point of view is somewhat clear.

pirate1802
4th Feb 2014, 18:18
I'm not 100% sure, but I think I remember someone telling me there was a reference on Dexter - his girlfriend Rita dresses as Lara for Halloween or something!

Yes and idiot Dexter couldn't recognize who she was dressed as. I was facepalming.

Woogiemush
4th Feb 2014, 20:06
If you think about it, objectification and sexism are hand in hand. Objectification could be defined as seeing women as merely objects, here for their looks and aesthetic appeal. Sexism, like you said, promotes stereotypical gender roles. If objectification implies that a woman's role is to be a (sexy) object, could that not be seen as sexism, as well?
My thoughts are scattered here, but hopefully my point of view is somewhat clear.

Exactly, thanks. Finally, someone understands where I'm coming from. :)

-Roli-
4th Feb 2014, 20:49
Pamela Anderson as Lara Croft in my most beloved series, V.I.P.! :D:

http://i.imgur.com/rMQYl5O.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rAFPmVA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BrZdRU5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/izC5HOS.jpg

Asterix & Obelix XXL 2: Mission Las Vegum:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/942774_723632017663335_1319201726_n.jpg

Ally Ally McBeal:

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1/167682_195124883847387_6666933_n.jpg

Pucca:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/q71/s720x720/1012515_709555169071020_480031837_n.jpg

Shadow Warriors:

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Duke Nukem: Time to Kill

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mahey31
4th Feb 2014, 21:59
Exactly, thanks. Finally, someone understands where I'm coming from. :)
Lol. I had to give my two cents on that one. And I had forgotten all about Life with Derek. I kind of got all nostalgic. :)

Woogiemush
4th Feb 2014, 22:57
Lol. I had to give my two cents on that one. And I had forgotten all about Life with Derek. I kind of got all nostalgic. :)

I loved that show when I was little. It's very nostalgic for me.

LaraC2mbRaider7
5th Feb 2014, 08:06
Lola in The Looney Tunes Show

http://youtu.be/cN_Wmbz-hLo

Driber
5th Feb 2014, 19:33
Listen, I put a comment in here to put input, not be told what's right and wrong. So if you could kindly not respond to my reply's any more, that'd be great.

Considering the discussion we had in PM, I'm assuming you no longer feel this way? :)


If you think about it, objectification and sexism are hand in hand. Objectification could be defined as seeing women as merely objects, here for their looks and aesthetic appeal. Sexism, like you said, promotes stereotypical gender roles. If objectification implies that a woman's role is to be a (sexy) object, could that not be seen as sexism, as well?
My thoughts are scattered here, but hopefully my point of view is somewhat clear.

I get the point you're trying to make, but that's a wrong way of looking at it.

Objectification and sexism can go hand in hand, but they do not exclusively do so. For example, you can be a sexist who objectifies women. But you can also be someone who objectifies women without being sexist. Not all sexists objectify women. And not all people who objectify women are sexist.

It's the same ignorant thing as assuming that all registered sex offenders are pedophiles (which happens a lot!). Yes, a lot of registered sex offenders are pedophiles, and yes, a lot of sexists objectify women, but not all of them are and not all of them do. And to make generalized statements like that is offensive.

And no, objectification does not "imply that a woman's role is to be a (sexy) object".

Most people objectify other people. How do I come to that conclusion? Simple - men objectify women when they watch a porn movie (and I think we can all be honest here and say that most men have watched a porn at least once in their life). Women objectify men when they hire a male stripper for bachelor parties or when they go see the Chippendales, or drooling over the god knows how many boy bands out there, or just look at the gazillion Bieber fans or the massive amount of female Tinder members who manage to make objectification super efficient by simply swiping away the inner qualities of men by the dozens in a 2 minute session.

So having established that most people objectify others, can you still reasonably make the claim that therefore most people are sexist? :)

mahey31
6th Feb 2014, 18:03
Considering the discussion we had in PM, I'm assuming you no longer feel this way? :)



I get the point you're trying to make, but that's a wrong way of looking at it.

Objectification and sexism can go hand in hand, but they do not exclusively do so. For example, you can be a sexist who objectifies women. But you can also be someone who objectifies women without being sexist. Not all sexists objectify women. And not all people who objectify women are sexist.

It's the same ignorant thing as assuming that all registered sex offenders are pedophiles (which happens a lot!). Yes, a lot of registered sex offenders are pedophiles, and yes, a lot of sexists objectify women, but not all of them are and not all of them do. And to make generalized statements like that is offensive.

And no, objectification does not "imply that a woman's role is to be a (sexy) object".

Most people objectify other people. How do I come to that conclusion? Simple - men objectify women when they watch a porn movie (and I think we can all be honest here and say that most men have watched a porn at least once in their life). Women objectify men when they hire a male stripper for bachelor parties or when they go see the Chippendales, or drooling over the god knows how many boy bands out there, or just look at the gazillion Bieber fans or the massive amount of female Tinder members who manage to make objectification super efficient by simply swiping away the inner qualities of men by the dozens in a 2 minute session.

So having established that most people objectify others, can you still reasonably make the claim that therefore most people are sexist? :)
I can totally see both of our thought processes on this, and I can see how they differ. My way of looking at it is not "wrong", and neither is yours. But in response, I never said that everyone who objectifies is sexist. Nor vice versa. I'm saying that the two terms go hand in hand, in certain contexts. Now, I know it's not relative to this discussion, but both sexism and objectification are wrong. Saying that everyone objectifies doesn't make it okay. I've been following the forums for a while now, and I've seen how debates go with you. Lol. I want no part!!! *Waves white flag*

And P.S. I don't know why men always get bashed with the porn-watching thing. I'm sure women do it, too! :D

Driber
7th Feb 2014, 09:48
I can totally see both of our thought processes on this, and I can see how they differ. My way of looking at it is not "wrong", and neither is yours. But in response, I never said that everyone who objectifies is sexist. Nor vice versa.

Well, keep in mind that we are talking about the video woogymush posted. In that video there there was definitely an incorrect usage of the term "sexism", because the girl said something like "this videogame [that is exactly like TR] is sexist and you guys are sexists for playing this game".

That, in my view, is just wrong, plain and simple.

If you disagree on that (regarding the video in question) I would love to know why :)


I'm saying that the two terms go hand in hand, in certain contexts.

Okay, I grand you that. The terms sometimes go hand-in-hand.

However, the only reason I felt like correcting woogymush on the terms in this particular case was because it was used wrong in this instance (the video), and people in general are using it wrong on a massive scale, so I thought it would be good to educate the general public on this matter. Ignorance can only be cured with constructive education, not retaliation (which unfortunately happens all too often, if you know where I'm getting at *cough* YT *cough*).

So I think it's best to just keep the terms separate, entirely. It only muddies the water. Like I said earlier, you don't go around calling every sex offender a paedophile, just because a few (or a lot, or most, what have you) are paedophiles.


Now, I know it's not relative to this discussion, but both sexism and objectification are wrong. Saying that everyone objectifies doesn't make it okay.

Well I don't quite agree with you there.

Yes, sexism, in the purest sense of the word (i.e. discrimination against women) is wrong; I'm sure we can all agree on that.

However, objectification is not inherently wrong and it entirely depends on the context; who is being objectified, who is doing the objectifying, and what is the setting?

For example, objectification in the form of pornography is not inherently wrong. Like you said yourself, people getting bashed for watching porn is BS. And don't let FEMEN tell you otherwise, folks. They are fighting some good causes, but they are extremists.

If my GF and I videotape ourselves having sex and we decide to upload it to redtube and we get a kick out of that and neither of us gets hurt in the process, no one on this entire planet has the right to tell us, nor the viewers of said video, that we/they are doing something wrong, or promoting sex trafficking, exploiting women, yada yada yada :rolleyes:

Another example - buying a Playgirl magazine (objectification of men) is not inherently wrong. If women get a kick out of looking at chizzled, half naked dudes in cowboy hats on big black stallions with a suggestive waterfall in the background, then power to them! Who are any of us to tell them they shouldn't be doing that?


I've been following the forums for a while now, and I've seen how debates go with you. Lol. I want no part!!! *Waves white flag*

Oh? And what is wrong about debating with me? Are we not having a friendly and constructive discussion right now about our views on sexism and objectification?

I may not agree with you on all points, but I'm genuinely interested to hear them and to discuss them with you, as long as the discussion is kept civil :)


And P.S. I don't know why men always get bashed with the porn-watching thing. I'm sure women do it, too! :D

Exactly :thumb:


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PS. As this discussion draws out, we might move it to the humble abode thread, so to avoid a derailment of the "Lara in unexpected places" topic here :)

mahey31
7th Feb 2014, 17:58
Well, keep in mind that we are talking about the video woogymush posted. In that video there there was definitely an incorrect usage of the term "sexism", because the girl said something like "this videogame [that is exactly like TR] is sexist and you guys are sexists for playing this game".

That, in my view, is just wrong, plain and simple.

If you disagree on that (regarding the video in question) I would love to know why :)



Okay, I grand you that. The terms sometimes go hand-in-hand.

However, the only reason I felt like correcting woogymush on the terms in this particular case was because it was used wrong in this instance (the video), and people in general are using it wrong on a massive scale, so I thought it would be good to educate the general public on this matter. Ignorance can only be cured with constructive education, not retaliation (which unfortunately happens all too often, if you know where I'm getting at *cough* YT *cough*).

So I think it's best to just keep the terms separate, entirely. It only muddies the water. Like I said earlier, you don't go around calling every sex offender a paedophile, just because a few (or a lot, or most, what have you) are paedophiles.



Well I don't quite agree with you there.

Yes, sexism, in the purest sense of the word (i.e. discrimination against women) is wrong; I'm sure we can all agree on that.

However, objectification is not inherently wrong and it entirely depends on the context; who is being objectified, who is doing the objectifying, and what is the setting?

For example, objectification in the form of pornography is not inherently wrong. Like you said yourself, people getting bashed for watching porn is BS. And don't let FEMEN tell you otherwise, folks. They are fighting some good causes, but they are extremists.

If my GF and I videotape ourselves having sex and we decide to upload it to redtube and we get a kick out of that and neither of us gets hurt in the process, no one on this entire planet has the right to tell us, nor the viewers of said video, that we/they are doing something wrong, or promoting sex trafficking, exploiting women, yada yada yada :rolleyes:

Another example - buying a Playgirl magazine (objectification of men) is not inherently wrong. If women get a kick out of looking at chizzled, half naked dudes in cowboy hats on big black stallions with a suggestive waterfall in the background, then power to them! Who are any of us to tell them they shouldn't be doing that?



Oh? And what is wrong about debating with me? Are we not having a friendly and constructive discussion right now about our views on sexism and objectification?

I may not agree with you on all points, but I'm genuinely interested to hear them and to discuss them with you, as long as the discussion is kept civil :)



Exactly :thumb:


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PS. As this discussion draws out, we might move it to the humble abode thread, so to avoid a derailment of the "Lara in unexpected places" topic here :)
Nice post! Lol. I agree on a lot of things. Like the clip from the show. You're right: Playing a game that objectifies women does not make you sexist. It's how you see that game and women in general. It's a wishy washy subject, after all. I won't clutter up this thread anymore, and I think we came to a substantial agreement here.
And in regards to debating with you, I don't much care for arguing, especially online. ^_^ It makes me feel nervous. Hehe. Although I DO have some thoughts on the TRDE face brewing in my head...That topic has been beaten to pieces, though.

Driber
8th Feb 2014, 11:13
Nice post! Lol. I agree on a lot of things. Like the clip from the show. You're right: Playing a game that objectifies women does not make you sexist. It's how you see that game and women in general. It's a wishy washy subject, after all. I won't clutter up this thread anymore, and I think we came to a substantial agreement here.
And in regards to debating with you, I don't much care for arguing, especially online. ^_^ It makes me feel nervous. Hehe. Although I DO have some thoughts on the TRDE face brewing in my head...That topic has been beaten to pieces, though.

Yes, we came to a substantial agreement :)

Regarding debating online in general - it al depends where you do it, I'd say. I would never, EVER recommend engaging in a discussion on YT, for example. That place is the pits because everything is practically anonymous and completely unmoderated. You really see the most hateful and disgusting comments on there :/

But over here, the discussions are most of the time fairly mild and respectful. (And if they are not, the staff will intervene). I think here you can feel much safer to hold a constructive discussion, so you should not feel nervous on this forum :)

Just want to end with a little clarification, if necessary - most of the time when I'm using the term "argue" or "argument", I mean it in the sense of "debate" or "discussion", not "arguing" as in being angry and fighting. Heh.

ItsAdventureTime
17th Feb 2014, 19:00
I was re-watching Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World TV series, and realized how strikingly similar Finn looks to Lara in Season 3!

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Unfortunately I could not find a full body shot, but you can kind of get the idea from the waist up, she in fact does sport a full "Angelina Jolie" inspired outfit from the TR movies.

OrangeFr3ak
13th Nov 2014, 15:27
Cradle of Life Lara in Totally Spies

http://youtu.be/oIKDiHx7gD0

AdeleDazeem
10th Jan 2015, 20:50
So I really like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was kinda awesome to see the refrence in Ten Thousand Immortals (with Willow and Xander). What could possibly top that? What about a Tomb Raider ánd Buffy reference on one page in a non-related book?

It's a 600+ page book, so you better appreciate I went through all the pages to find it again. :p

Watch your Back - Karen Rose

BeastCallisto
22nd Mar 2015, 20:51
I loved it, when Simon Peggs character played TR3 in his wonderful TV series Spaced.
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Driber
5th Apr 2015, 08:16
So I really like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was kinda awesome to see the refrence in Ten Thousand Immortals (with Willow and Xander). What could possibly top that? What about a Tomb Raider ánd Buffy reference on one page in a non-related book?

It's a 600+ page book, so you better appreciate I went through all the pages to find it again. :p

Watch your Back - Karen Rose



I loved it, when Simon Peggs character played TR3 in his wonderful TV series Spaced.
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Nice find, guys!

Error96_
5th Apr 2015, 21:12
I was watching an old episode of one of these fear factor type gameshows called Ford Boyard yesterday and they were saying imagine you are Lara Croft to give confidence to the contestant. Is nice when we see Lara used as a figure of strength.

On this sexism/ objectification debate. Lara Croft has changed the demographic of gamers massively bring more women into playing games. She has done more good for the role of women in video games than any other game series or character. Those who see/saw as her as being an example of objectification of women overlook the huge positive impact she has had.

Driber
7th Apr 2015, 00:11
I was watching an old episode of one of these fear factor type gameshows called Ford Boyard yesterday and they were saying imagine you are Lara Croft to give confidence to the contestant. Is nice when we see Lara used as a figure of strength.

Ha, that's so awesome. I love Ford Boyard. One of my fav gameshows from my childhood. Great memories of that show!


On this sexism/ objectification debate. Lara Croft has changed the demographic of gamers massively bring more women into playing games. She has done more good for the role of women in video games than any other game series or character. Those who see/saw as her as being an example of objectification of women overlook the huge positive impact she has had.

Completely agree :thumb:

Hotsam1
11th Apr 2015, 15:47
James Bond: The World is not Enough (1999)

http://www.thefancarpet.com/uploaded_assets/images/gallery/1633/The_World_Is_Not_Enough_20898_Medium.jpg

Every time I watch this film, I keep thinking that Denise Richards is based on Lara Croft and her character is called Jones. A nice reference too!

Treeble
11th Apr 2015, 15:58
I totally missed that one, but, actually, that just may be true (that the character drew heavily from Lara Croft). I think it's in the AOD Official Companion book, I'll dig it up soonish to get the actual quote, but before Paramount got the rights for the TR movies, MGM had the idea of inserting Lara Croft as a cameo in the ending of a 007 movie (I am going to say GoldenEye) and then off to star her own movie. :)

Driber
11th Apr 2015, 16:53
James Bond: The World is not Enough (1999)

http://www.thefancarpet.com/uploaded_assets/images/gallery/1633/The_World_Is_Not_Enough_20898_Medium.jpg

Every time I watch this film, I keep thinking that Denise Richards is based on Lara Croft and her character is called Jones. A nice reference too!

I remember Richards' character in that film. She was awesome and kicked some serious arse :thumb:

But I didn't have the feeling that she was based on Lara. Would be interesting to get to know if the creators indeed had Lara in mind or not :)

Treeble
11th Apr 2015, 17:46
Here, from the Official AOD Companion Book:

http://abload.de/img/img_20150411_14405755o3jzu.jpg

I was under the impression The World is not Enough was the sequel to GoldenEye, but I'd forgotten about Tomorrow Never Dies. Still, as it was a 1999 movie, maybe there was an everlasting influence...

OR... second thoughts here. GoldenEye came out in 1995. Maybe JHS meant Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)?

Hotsam1
11th Apr 2015, 19:22
I'm pretty sure that it was early days even for James Bond to consider a cameo for Lara Croft in 'Tomorrow Never Dies' as the release date of the film is close to the release of TR2.

Maybe you could argue otherwise :p

Treeble
11th Apr 2015, 19:29
It's nothing but speculation. If we look at it more objectively, maybe Denise Richard's Jones was actually that Lara appearance prior to her own movie? That would make more sense, as it was 1999.

Hotsam1
11th Apr 2015, 20:22
It's nothing but speculation. If we look at it more objectively, maybe Denise Richard's Jones was actually that Lara appearance prior to her own movie? That would make more sense, as it was 1999.

Agreed. I would have loved Denise to do a Tomb Raider movie. Nevertheless Angelina Jolie did a good job.

Driber
12th Apr 2015, 10:01
Here, from the Official AOD Companion Book:

http://abload.de/img/img_20150411_14405755o3jzu.jpg



Hmm I see. That's interesting. Thanks :)


Agreed. I would have loved Denise to do a Tomb Raider movie. Nevertheless Angelina Jolie did a good job.

Oeee yeah, Richards might've been a great Lara in the films!

AdeleDazeem
13th Apr 2015, 12:12
I'm not sure where else to post this, but this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxDS106Xf-E) sounds familiar (https://youtu.be/R-uyBViwAVw?t=1m57s).

d1n0_xD
13th Apr 2015, 13:31
^ Yeah, the first couple of seconds sound almost exact, but it's different. Haven't heard the whole song tho.

Ah, gotta love TRL music, great memories :3

IvanaKC
13th Apr 2015, 15:32
I'm not sure where else to post this, but this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxDS106Xf-E) sounds familiar (https://youtu.be/R-uyBViwAVw?t=1m57s).

Recognized it without even seeing which TRL it was similar to. :eek: Man, I want to go home and play Legend now...

WinterSoldierLTE
13th Apr 2015, 22:26
Ah, gotta love TRL music, great memories :3

Still the TR soundtrack I listen to the most after all these years. It's aged just as well as the game has.

AdeleDazeem
14th Apr 2015, 07:52
Man, I want to go home and play Legend now...

Yeah, I had the same feeling. The Legend theme is still my favorite track in Tomb Raider history, it's so unique and has a great feel to it that I can't describe with words.

IvanaKC
14th Apr 2015, 19:37
Yeah, I had the same feeling. The Legend theme is still my favorite track in Tomb Raider history, it's so unique and has a great feel to it that I can't describe with words.

Not just the main theme. Every single Bolivia soundtrack amazes me every time I hear it ingame.

AlexWeiss
16th Apr 2015, 00:14
I don't know how unexpected this is because they're both SE published, but Life Is Strange had a moment where Max mentioned LC:
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d1n0_xD
16th Apr 2015, 06:42
^ When will all the episodes of that game be released?

AdeleDazeem
16th Apr 2015, 07:47
Edit

^ When will all the episodes of that game be released retail (on disc)?

Driber
16th Apr 2015, 11:07
^ It's not going to be on disc :(

@AW: Definitely a worthy addition to this thread! Nice find :thumb:

AdeleDazeem
16th Apr 2015, 11:24
^ It's not going to be on disc :(

Sorry to ask this in the wrong threat, but I read SE considered a retail release. I'd hoped they would eventually release the full game on disc. Like The Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us etc. Did they confirm there will never be such a release?

Driber
16th Apr 2015, 11:31
Sorry to ask this in the wrong threat, but I read SE considered a retail release. I'd hoped they would eventually release the full game on disc. Like The Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us etc. Did they confirm there will never be such a release?

No problem.

Last thing I heard was no full retail release. If you show me the source of what you wrote I'll check to see which statement was more recent :)

AdeleDazeem
16th Apr 2015, 13:03
Thanks! I think it was this one :)
http://gamingbolt.com/square-enix-considering-retail-release-for-life-is-strange

Driber
16th Apr 2015, 14:08
Okay mine is a bit newer. But reading it again it is indeed not really ruling out the possibility, so there might be hope :)

http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=14646&p=2099089#post2099089

Foundered
29th Apr 2015, 19:34
Free Comic Book Day is May 2nd. One of the free books is Bongo Comics (Simpsons). They have the whole story of Comic Book Guy dating a Lara Croft cosplayer!

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You can get the full story at your local comic shop on Saturday.

Driber
1st May 2015, 00:07
Free Comic Book Day is May 2nd. One of the free books is Bongo Comics (Simpsons). They have the whole story of Comic Book Guy dating a Lara Croft cosplayer!

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You can get the full story at your local comic shop on Saturday.

Bwahaha that's awesome :D

AdeleDazeem
1st May 2015, 07:22
Ha, that's cool! I hope I can find a complete PDF. or something in the future, I'd love to read the whole thing :)

Gitb97
3rd May 2015, 00:48
Tyler, The Creator mentions her in Goblin (x (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emh5Z0-n55Y))
Lyric: In the Tombs of Lara Croft
It's around 2 mins in.

AdeleDazeem
3rd May 2015, 09:44
Tyler, The Creator mentions her in Goblin (x (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emh5Z0-n55Y))
Lyric: In the Tombs of Lara Croft
It's around 2 mins in.

Nice find, I barely caught it. Here's a quick link:
https://youtu.be/Emh5Z0-n55Y?t=2m14s

Blue-616
3rd May 2015, 21:45
An episode from Off Their Rockers - A comedy about OAPs pranking younger people :lol:

http://41.media.tumblr.com/2e5e137a1d73ec4c5e80e368a06185ed/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo2_500.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/dd9a34771f18299f00b95e658b724581/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo3_500.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/cbdcf9e9950d119a38b344e2d0248e0b/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo4_500.png

http://40.media.tumblr.com/ca43f8a57a37af09c9a242b325809e1e/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo5_500.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/11d82ac6e65f08cc91e549bc94f06119/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo6_500.png

http://41.media.tumblr.com/5270c99d1599ec03f4a331f570ed7b8c/tumblr_nlmr9bRCrW1s7fyufo7_500.png

http://classictombraider.tumblr.com/post/114340738441/off-their-rockers-is-one-of-the-funniest-shows-on

IvanaKC
3rd May 2015, 23:09
An episode from Off Their Rockers :lol:

http://classictombraider.tumblr.com/post/114340738441/off-their-rockers-is-one-of-the-funniest-shows-on

I expect my neighbors knocking at my door in a moment and asking why am I laughing so loud at 1 am! This is brilliant! :lol: :lol:

AdeleDazeem
4th May 2015, 07:17
That's incredible! That last pic... wow. :p

AlexWeiss
4th May 2015, 23:47
The writers of Off Their Rockers know what they're doing :vlol:

Driber
5th May 2015, 13:01
Haha, that's awesome :lol:

Thanks for posting, Blue. I've just inserted the actual images into your post, in case that blogpost goes down in the future :)

Also, funny how they associate TR with AJ rather than Lara from the games, lol.