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Otaku Son
31st Aug 2011, 00:13
How can a professional company put out a game that's so blatantly marred by bad spelling? I'm not writing about the poorly spelt e-mails (though I find it incredible that in an "advanced augmented society" of the future, there would still be horrible writers, since every aug should have a built-in spell check). I'm writing about playing the game with subtitles on (which seems to be the default setting), and somehow blatant spelling errors got through both the editors and the beta-testers.

Let's first start with the inconsistent spelling of things. Is it "lao wai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686605700) "laowai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686601966) or proper noun "Laowai" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687220919)? This becomes very humorous when you have inconsistent spellings back-to-back, like when "bad ass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686200094) suddenly becomes "badass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686201039). Or "G-P-L" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671252198) becomes "GPL." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671256226)

In fact, acronyms seems to be a very big problem in this game. Let's start with, "how do i spel't 'united nations' abbreviation in t3h fuchure?" it r "U-N," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686399223) "UN," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686498966) or "U.N." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686404772)? it must b u.n. bcuz load screen seyz so. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686455021) Here's a hint: look at the stock footage you included at the end of the game (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686006636). Guys also can't figure out if it's TYM (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686798040) or T-Y-M (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686793375). Then after popping out a hyphenated acronym, (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686231171) we get a perioded acronym (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686233501) (and yes, I understand the irony since "perioded" isn't a word). And the reason cybernetics work in the future is because humans have evolved beyond DNA and now use D-N-A (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686139662).

Seriously, what is up with the overuse of hyphens in this game? Hyphenating words that don't need hyphens, like "water-pressure" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686671596) and "son-of-*****," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670943702) among other hyphenated words I didn't take screenshots of. But my favorite's gotta be "bull-****" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686322238) (which "bull****ted" isn't correct grammar, either [someone "****ted" out this poor writing, or someone "shat" out this poor writing?], but that's not the point here). But like every textual inconsistency so far, there's a correction not far away (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686326856).

Maybe the guys just don't know how to use punctuation. That's why when they ended a sentence in double quotes, they left out the period because they didn't know which quote to put it in. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686250476) It's not like there's much control with both an exclamation mark and a period! . (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686096863) And is "many many" something like "hundred thousand"? (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687755569) I don't know, but I was surprised to find this one instance of the correct type of quotation marks (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319634001719), considering any other quotes in the game only use single marks. Conglaturation! Rest now our hero! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687808785)

I love how the game's attempt at being somehow grammatically correct comes out as awkward. I mean, seriously; who the hell says, "Someone "stripped me of my belongings" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670954516)? Nobody! They say, "Someone STOLE my belongings." Not that it matters, because soon after, there's another blatant grammatical error (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670959788) ("y" becomes "ie" when pluralized, unless the preceding letter is already a vowel, like the monkeys who wrote this stuff).

No, seriously, this is just laziness for three departments: the writing department for writing so horribly, the editorial department for not fixing it the first time around, and the beta-testers for not pointing it out to the writers and/or editors. Maybe even blame the programmers for including it. Maybe even the programmers for programming this stuff in, but they were probably either the writers or editors. Either way, these things went through three groups of people. And what, they didn't think gamers would notice? They didn't think poor spelling and grammar structure would reflect poorly on them? Because it's obvious these errors stood out for at least one gamer. The end of the civilized world as we know it (I'm surprised this wasn't written, "civilized-world-as-we-know-it") begins with poor writing in video games. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670967058)

Hardin
31st Aug 2011, 00:19
The game was made in Montreal where I believe they still speak primarily French. All of your complaints are so minor.

Otaku Son
31st Aug 2011, 00:24
My complaints are so minor, they stick out like a sore thumb and I made a thread about it.

Just because the game was developed in Montreal doesn't mean it couldn't be beta-tested by other branches around the globe, especially in the England branch where they speak -GASP!- English.

Enraged Penguin
31st Aug 2011, 00:25
I can't tell if you're being serious or not :scratch:. So here's my reply to both possibilities.



If joking: Haha nice one, you got me.

If not joking: FOAD. F.O.A.D. F-O-A-D. Seriously. Do it. Now.

Otaku Son
31st Aug 2011, 00:32
You know what? They have localization teams for a reason. That's like writing that because a game is made in Japan, it's totally okay to write Engrish (see Zero Wing). Laziness all around.

As for Penquin, GFAD.

KingLeonShepard
31st Aug 2011, 00:32
I was too busy enjoying the game to have noticed grammatical errors.

Enraged Penguin
31st Aug 2011, 00:39
As for Penquin, GFAD.You misspelled (hmm.. will he go for it?) penguin. And unfortunately I'm not near any ponds, otherwise I would. Why not? You only live once.

sajin
31st Aug 2011, 00:41
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pi r squared
31st Aug 2011, 01:12
They didn't think poor spelling and grammar structure would reflect poorly on them? Because it's obvious these errors stood out for at least one gamer.[/URL]Amongst the hundreds of thousands of lines of dialogue and prose within the game, you've managed to find a dozen or so mistakes. Well done. I don't really think this constitutes "poor spelling" (the only spelling mistake you actually point out is "lao wei"; "sorrys" is an acceptable colloquial plural of a word that technically isn't a noun anyway and ordinarily wouldn't be pluralised), nor poor "grammar structure" (where the phrase "grammar structure" isn't particularly great English anyway). A few punctuation inconsistencies that slip through probably because you have a team of writers with their own idiosyncrasies in that respect, and you're demanding that people be fired!? Complete overreaction.

You know, I'm completely for correct English usage, and if this game were peppered with textbook errors like "its/it's" mistakes or "there/their/they're" mistakes, legitimate spelling errors and gibberish grammar then I'd give some credit to your post. But these errors are so tiny that unless you're objectively looking for them, you wouldn't even notice them.

Oh, and for the record, you surely realise that GPL and DoD are abbreviations not acronyms. Acronyms are pronounceable, like NASA or SWAT.

ArchangelX
31st Aug 2011, 01:15
Everyone has their hang-ups...I didn't really notice it, but then again I listened more than I read. The crotch thing bugs me still, but this doesn't bother me at all. The story rocks.

Doom972
31st Aug 2011, 01:35
This is not as serious a problem as Otaku is making it, but they really should fix it when they can.

Aquineas
31st Aug 2011, 01:50
Gosh I wish this forum let you rate threads/posts.

NKD
31st Aug 2011, 02:05
Gosh I wish this forum let you rate threads/posts.

I wish it let you garrote people who post stupid threads.

deusexhr
31st Aug 2011, 02:07
LMAO, is this guy serious? What a freak if so.

ufo8mycat
31st Aug 2011, 02:17
Wow talk about nitpicking.

I sure hope this doesn't ruin your enjoyment? This is worse then one guy saying 'lack of objects being interactive' or 'missing shadows here and here ruins immersion'.

I mean seriously

You really need to stop nitpicking at small things, you will enjoy gaming more.

Glyph
31st Aug 2011, 02:18
Think about it for a second; all of the emails were supposedly written by different fictional people. Each of them would make 'simple' mistakes in different ways. Some would capitalize words while others would not for example. It seems appropriate that the emails in the game would contain various errors of this nature since even the people that would have written them are not perfect. To expect every single email in the game to be perfect in every possible way would further undermine the point that humanity is imperfect by nature.

This is not a book by a single author, this is a game immitating the daily lives of many, many fictional characters. Have you seriously never worked for a corporation? Daily emails are filled with tons of various errors. Having the emails in Human Revolution contain such errors actually gives it a sense of authenticity. In the end the only issue here is that you expect people to be perfect which is the entire point of this game, trying to achieve perfection through augmentation. Sadly, no one, augmented or not, can ever be perfect so having these errors in-game is entirely appropriate.

DXM1
31st Aug 2011, 05:05
are you serious? You are complaining about acronyms? I think you should be fired... from a rocket, to the sun.

MaxxQ1
31st Aug 2011, 05:17
Oh, and for the record, you surely realise that GPL and DoD are abbreviations not acronyms. Acronyms are pronounceable, like NASA or SWAT.

And radar and laser, to name two more.

Risingred
31st Aug 2011, 05:21
Did you really suggest that they should have an "augment" in the world so people type email correctly?
This was a big concern to the world?

The "bad spelling" or whatever you called it in the emails is flavor text. Every book, the characters don't exercise proper grammar or syntax in dialogue, now, do they? Care to guess why?

Are these errors? Yes. Technical writing errors that only people with subtitles on will come across. Is it a big deal? Uh, no? How would it be? Did it make something difficult for you to understand? If so, then maybe they shouldn't learn how to write--perhaps you need to learn how to read.

LAST1
31st Aug 2011, 05:38
How can a professional company put out a game that's so blatantly marred by bad spelling? I'm not writing about the poorly spelt e-mails (though I find it incredible that in an "advanced augmented society" of the future, there would still be horrible writers, since every aug should have a built-in spell check). I'm writing about playing the game with subtitles on (which seems to be the default setting), and somehow blatant spelling errors got through both the editors and the beta-testers.

Let's first start with the inconsistent spelling of things. Is it "lao wai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686605700) "laowai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686601966) or proper noun "Laowai" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687220919)? This becomes very humorous when you have inconsistent spellings back-to-back, like when "bad ass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686200094) suddenly becomes "badass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686201039). Or "G-P-L" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671252198) becomes "GPL." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671256226)

In fact, acronyms seems to be a very big problem in this game. Let's start with, "how do i spel't 'united nations' abbreviation in t3h fuchure?" it r "U-N," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686399223) "UN," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686498966) or "U.N." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686404772)? it must b u.n. bcuz load screen seyz so. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686455021) Here's a hint: look at the stock footage you included at the end of the game (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686006636). Guys also can't figure out if it's TYM (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686798040) or T-Y-M (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686793375). Then after popping out a hyphenated acronym, (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686231171) we get a perioded acronym (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686233501) (and yes, I understand the irony since "perioded" isn't a word). And the reason cybernetics work in the future is because humans have evolved beyond DNA and now use D-N-A (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686139662).

Seriously, what is up with the overuse of hyphens in this game? Hyphenating words that don't need hyphens, like "water-pressure" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686671596) and "son-of-*****," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670943702) among other hyphenated words I didn't take screenshots of. But my favorite's gotta be "bull-****" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686322238) (which "bull****ted" isn't correct grammar, either [someone "****ted" out this poor writing, or someone "shat" out this poor writing?], but that's not the point here). But like every textual inconsistency so far, there's a correction not far away (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686326856).

Maybe the guys just don't know how to use punctuation. That's why when they ended a sentence in double quotes, they left out the period because they didn't know which quote to put it in. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686250476) It's not like there's much control with both an exclamation mark and a period! . (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686096863) And is "many many" something like "hundred thousand"? (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687755569) I don't know, but I was surprised to find this one instance of the correct type of quotation marks (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319634001719), considering any other quotes in the game only use single marks. Conglaturation! Rest now our hero! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687808785)

I love how the game's attempt at being somehow grammatically correct comes out as awkward. I mean, seriously; who the hell says, "Someone "stripped me of my belongings" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670954516)? Nobody! They say, "Someone STOLE my belongings." Not that it matters, because soon after, there's another blatant grammatical error (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670959788) ("y" becomes "ie" when pluralized, unless the preceding letter is already a vowel, like the monkeys who wrote this stuff).

No, seriously, this is just laziness for three departments: the writing department for writing so horribly, the editorial department for not fixing it the first time around, and the beta-testers for not pointing it out to the writers and/or editors. Maybe even blame the programmers for including it. Maybe even the programmers for programming this stuff in, but they were probably either the writers or editors. Either way, these things went through three groups of people. And what, they didn't think gamers would notice? They didn't think poor spelling and grammar structure would reflect poorly on them? Because it's obvious these errors stood out for at least one gamer. The end of the civilized world as we know it (I'm surprised this wasn't written, "civilized-world-as-we-know-it") begins with poor writing in video games. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670967058)http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes_still11.jpg

Messire
31st Aug 2011, 05:46
Lovely to read that in the morning, coffee still smoking hot... Did that otaku dude (frustrated MGS fan, I'll wager) kick in just to humiliate himself?

Man, Quebec is not about grammar and wasting time incorrectly spelling mistakes out of words, It's about fun, wit and finesse. Next time try at least to be more diplomatic and/or respectful, that will help a lot, you believe me, raging troll head!

"The end of the civilized world as we know it (I'm surprised this wasn't written, "civilized-world-as-we-know-it") begins with poor writing in video games."

You're wrong again, man! The end of civilisation as we know it (the philosophical nonsense you unveiled here is pretty deep) begins when peeps try to save Ferodova BECAUSE she looks like some prominent public live shouting whore we all heard about. Just mentionning this because is shox me.

Poor damned kids, lost generation...

zorphon
31st Aug 2011, 05:47
For the love of god I hope you're not serious.

Daedatheus
31st Aug 2011, 05:50
Hey guys, remember that the lead writer and probably most of the writers are native English speakers, because despite the studio being in a French-speaking province, their games are always going to be marketed globally with English-speaking markets at the forefront. DXHR was designed in English from the ground up, and they hired the appropriate people to make it so. The game would have suffered A LOT if the writers were not well-versed in the English language as far as writing norms and dialogue styles are concerned, and the team KNOWS THAT FACT.


I'm writing about playing the game with subtitles on (which seems to be the default setting), and somehow blatant spelling errors got through both the editors and the beta-testers.

You do realize that subtitles are simply there to aid you in understanding the in-game communication? And, so long as you actually can read and understand what is being said, regardless of spelling or syntax errors, the subtitles have SUCCEEDED in their goal?

The main focus here is the speech itself. If that is done properly, then the writing is fine. The subtitling is not the primary mode of communication for the player, unless the player is deaf.

Personally I prefer the more realistic experience, I actually play with subtitles off. Even in Hengsha, I wanted that "foreign" feeling...

ricardosamuel1961
31st Aug 2011, 06:06
Lol, might want to practice what you preach:

"And the end of the civilized world be be brought by game developers who can't write proper English."

Messire
31st Aug 2011, 07:16
Lol, might want to practice what you preach:

"And the end of the civilized world be be brought by game developers who can't write proper English."

I'll second to that, Sir!

shm0
31st Aug 2011, 07:25
How can a professional company put out a game that's so blatantly marred by bad spelling? I'm not writing about the poorly spelt e-mails (though I find it incredible that in an "advanced augmented society" of the future, there would still be horrible writers, since every aug should have a built-in spell check). I'm writing about playing the game with subtitles on (which seems to be the default setting), and somehow blatant spelling errors got through both the editors and the beta-testers.

Let's first start with the inconsistent spelling of things. Is it "lao wai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686605700) "laowai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686601966) or proper noun "Laowai" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687220919)? This becomes very humorous when you have inconsistent spellings back-to-back, like when "bad ass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686200094) suddenly becomes "badass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686201039). Or "G-P-L" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671252198) becomes "GPL." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671256226)

In fact, acronyms seems to be a very big problem in this game. Let's start with, "how do i spel't 'united nations' abbreviation in t3h fuchure?" it r "U-N," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686399223) "UN," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686498966) or "U.N." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686404772)? it must b u.n. bcuz load screen seyz so. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686455021) Here's a hint: look at the stock footage you included at the end of the game (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686006636). Guys also can't figure out if it's TYM (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686798040) or T-Y-M (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686793375). Then after popping out a hyphenated acronym, (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686231171) we get a perioded acronym (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686233501) (and yes, I understand the irony since "perioded" isn't a word). And the reason cybernetics work in the future is because humans have evolved beyond DNA and now use D-N-A (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686139662).

Seriously, what is up with the overuse of hyphens in this game? Hyphenating words that don't need hyphens, like "water-pressure" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686671596) and "son-of-*****," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670943702) among other hyphenated words I didn't take screenshots of. But my favorite's gotta be "bull-****" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686322238) (which "bull****ted" isn't correct grammar, either [someone "****ted" out this poor writing, or someone "shat" out this poor writing?], but that's not the point here). But like every textual inconsistency so far, there's a correction not far away (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686326856).

Maybe the guys just don't know how to use punctuation. That's why when they ended a sentence in double quotes, they left out the period because they didn't know which quote to put it in. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686250476) It's not like there's much control with both an exclamation mark and a period! . (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686096863) And is "many many" something like "hundred thousand"? (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687755569) I don't know, but I was surprised to find this one instance of the correct type of quotation marks (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319634001719), considering any other quotes in the game only use single marks. Conglaturation! Rest now our hero! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687808785)

I love how the game's attempt at being somehow grammatically correct comes out as awkward. I mean, seriously; who the hell says, "Someone "stripped me of my belongings" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670954516)? Nobody! They say, "Someone STOLE my belongings." Not that it matters, because soon after, there's another blatant grammatical error (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670959788) ("y" becomes "ie" when pluralized, unless the preceding letter is already a vowel, like the monkeys who wrote this stuff).

No, seriously, this is just laziness for three departments: the writing department for writing so horribly, the editorial department for not fixing it the first time around, and the beta-testers for not pointing it out to the writers and/or editors. Maybe even blame the programmers for including it. Maybe even the programmers for programming this stuff in, but they were probably either the writers or editors. Either way, these things went through three groups of people. And what, they didn't think gamers would notice? They didn't think poor spelling and grammar structure would reflect poorly on them? Because it's obvious these errors stood out for at least one gamer. The end of the civilized world as we know it (I'm surprised this wasn't written, "civilized-world-as-we-know-it") begins with poor writing in video games. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670967058)


I gotta be honest... I read like 2.5 paragraphs, and then realized your some kind of elitist idiot complaining just because you feel the need to complain. Since when do people talk and type in proper english? That doesn't happen now... you're complaining that a sci-fi game set in the future isn't realistic enough for you?? :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Just... no. stop, grow up. please.:wave:

numinous
31st Aug 2011, 07:31
I wish it let you garrote people who post stupid threads.

You'd be a pile of mush by now if we could do that. ;)

Also - OP, are you referring to the emails and such? A lot of that is intentional. You realize that right?

Romeo
31st Aug 2011, 07:46
You'd be a pile of mush by now if we could do that. ;)

Also - OP, are you referring to the emails and such? A lot of that is intentional. You realize that right?
Nah, NKD is alright. Can think a few members though who'd have been gibbed by now.

And no, I don't think he does.



I feel like this would be a good Oprah episode. "And if you look under your seats, you'll all find notices of termination. Screw everyone at Eidos!"

JCpies
31st Aug 2011, 07:55
It's not a book, the writers have to imitate many different people. The people are spread out through different wealth divides, professions and countries are are going to spell things differently and make mistakes. I'm pretty sure it's intentional, aside from the odd mistake.

http://i.imgur.com/EKN4c.jpg

MaxxQ1
31st Aug 2011, 08:26
[COLOR="Red"] Since when do people talk and type in proper english? That doesn't happen now...

I do... at least proper American English (no superflous "u" in words like honor or color, pronouncing the "sch" in school and schedule the same, etc.), and have even been known to go all spelling/grammar Nazi on folks here and other places. In a humorous way, of course.

One guy here even made it into the CopyPasta thread (see my sig) due to his contantly calling Human Revolution Human Revaluation. Granted, english isn't his native language, but it's funny how it's written correctly everywhere on the forum, and he still couldn't quite get it right. He's still here, BTW, but due to other reasons, I have him on ignore.

Even texting, I rarely use abbreviations. It irritates me. Mark my words - someday, the British will stop adding the letter "u" to words because they will have all been used up by everyone texting "u" instead of "you".

Romeo
31st Aug 2011, 08:51
I do... at least proper American English (no superflous "u" in words like honor or color, pronouncing the "sch" in school and schedule the same, etc.), and have even been known to go all spelling/grammar Nazi on folks here and other places. In a humorous way, of course.

One guy here even made it into the CopyPasta thread (see my sig) due to his contantly calling Human Revolution Human Revaluation. Granted, english isn't his native language, but it's funny how it's written correctly everywhere on the forum, and he still couldn't quite get it right. He's still here, BTW, but due to other reasons, I have him on ignore.

Even texting, I rarely use abbreviations. It irritates me. Mark my words - someday, the British will stop adding the letter "u" to words because they will have all been used up by everyone texting "u" instead of "you".
As a Canadian, I'm insulted by some of your more colourful statements. Four 'u's in the first sentence. MUA HA HA HA.

Don't fight though, we Canadians arn't known for our armoured platoons. :D

vallux
31st Aug 2011, 09:21
I never second guessed the way things are spelled in the game. I really don't give two ****s if it's spelled T-Y-M instead of TYM, I know what it means either way.

jaywalker2309
31st Aug 2011, 09:31
Congrats :) roughly 390k words in the game and you complain about a few :) As someone nicely pointed out, most of the `errors` are in texts written by `people in the game` so therefore intentional :)

And what is wrong with ending a sentence with .. :) I've done it as long as i can remember, but i don't see my life being shortened by a few years :)

kasier
31st Aug 2011, 10:22
This is the first I've ever seen a thread complaining about grammar in a video game lol. Nice joke.

a2moosh
31st Aug 2011, 10:38
I can't tell if you're being serious or not :scratch:. So here's my reply to both possibilities.



If joking: Haha nice one, you got me.

If not joking: FOAD. F.O.A.D. F-O-A-D. Seriously. Do it. Now.

;-) haha

RedFeather1975
31st Aug 2011, 11:36
This is a good topic for people to read over as it teaches us how to be more good at grammer well.

AlexOfSpades
31st Aug 2011, 11:52
The guy ignored the ENTIRE GAME, and nitpicked just a few minor errors.

Ignored the storyline, ignored the character development, ignored the amazing soundtrack and gameplay, ignored everything, just to complain about the smallest detail.

Whats the name we give to people who ignore stuff?

Heheheeh.

Exactly.

By the way, how can you manage to sleep? I mean, seriously, you seem pretty pissed that someone wrote Bad Ass instead of Badass.

How long did it take for you to save all of those screenshots and link them perfectly to those dozens of linked sentences in your post? One hour? You know, there was a lot of great stuff that you could have done in that hour. But instead, you used it to create your first, probably last, and most embarassing thread. Talk about waste.

I've seen graphics whore, but grammar whores are new to me! Lol!

redial
31st Aug 2011, 13:17
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

Nexevo
31st Aug 2011, 13:44
I found the Nigerian scam/spam email to be far too well written to be a legitimate scam/spam mail :D

deusexhr
31st Aug 2011, 14:37
OP getting DECIMATED!

MaxxQ1
31st Aug 2011, 16:31
As a Canadian, I'm insulted by some of your more colourful statements. Four 'u's in the first sentence. MUA HA HA HA.

At least there are no extra ones that do nothing.


Don't fight though, we Canadians arn't known for our armoured platoons. :D

Did we miss a letter? ;)

Agent Denton
31st Aug 2011, 17:10
R U F'ing KIdd1ng M3???? L00k at h0W bad ppl spell & abbreviat3 already with txting on celly's and what not? I wuold imagine that in futre soci3ty its even worse than today......

Arksun
31st Aug 2011, 17:14
I was too busy enjoying the game to have noticed grammatical errors.

Yup, and the first thing I did was disable subtitles, so errr, didn't even notice.

vallux
31st Aug 2011, 17:25
Also, David Sarif's emails. That guy has some maad grammar.

Pulseczar
31st Aug 2011, 17:50
:lol: That was great, Otaku Son. Thanks.

AlexOfSpades
31st Aug 2011, 17:55
Just by having Otaku in the forum handle, i already expected a spectacle

Erogath
31st Aug 2011, 21:27
edit: eh nvm. not worth the effort.

p.s. Otaku, chill out son.

knicks21
31st Aug 2011, 23:22
How can a professional company put out a game that's so blatantly marred by bad spelling? I'm not writing about the poorly spelt e-mails (though I find it incredible that in an "advanced augmented society" of the future, there would still be horrible writers, since every aug should have a built-in spell check). I'm writing about playing the game with subtitles on (which seems to be the default setting), and somehow blatant spelling errors got through both the editors and the beta-testers.

Let's first start with the inconsistent spelling of things. Is it "lao wai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686605700) "laowai," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686601966) or proper noun "Laowai" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687220919)? This becomes very humorous when you have inconsistent spellings back-to-back, like when "bad ass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686200094) suddenly becomes "badass" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686201039). Or "G-P-L" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671252198) becomes "GPL." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319671256226)

In fact, acronyms seems to be a very big problem in this game. Let's start with, "how do i spel't 'united nations' abbreviation in t3h fuchure?" it r "U-N," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686399223) "UN," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686498966) or "U.N." (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686404772)? it must b u.n. bcuz load screen seyz so. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686455021) Here's a hint: look at the stock footage you included at the end of the game (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686006636). Guys also can't figure out if it's TYM (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686798040) or T-Y-M (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686793375). Then after popping out a hyphenated acronym, (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686231171) we get a perioded acronym (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686233501) (and yes, I understand the irony since "perioded" isn't a word). And the reason cybernetics work in the future is because humans have evolved beyond DNA and now use D-N-A (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686139662).

Seriously, what is up with the overuse of hyphens in this game? Hyphenating words that don't need hyphens, like "water-pressure" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686671596) and "son-of-*****," (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670943702) among other hyphenated words I didn't take screenshots of. But my favorite's gotta be "bull-****" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686322238) (which "bull****ted" isn't correct grammar, either [someone "****ted" out this poor writing, or someone "shat" out this poor writing?], but that's not the point here). But like every textual inconsistency so far, there's a correction not far away (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686326856).

Maybe the guys just don't know how to use punctuation. That's why when they ended a sentence in double quotes, they left out the period because they didn't know which quote to put it in. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686250476) It's not like there's much control with both an exclamation mark and a period! . (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319686096863) And is "many many" something like "hundred thousand"? (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687755569) I don't know, but I was surprised to find this one instance of the correct type of quotation marks (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319634001719), considering any other quotes in the game only use single marks. Conglaturation! Rest now our hero! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319687808785)

I love how the game's attempt at being somehow grammatically correct comes out as awkward. I mean, seriously; who the hell says, "Someone "stripped me of my belongings" (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670954516)? Nobody! They say, "Someone STOLE my belongings." Not that it matters, because soon after, there's another blatant grammatical error (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670959788) ("y" becomes "ie" when pluralized, unless the preceding letter is already a vowel, like the monkeys who wrote this stuff).

No, seriously, this is just laziness for three departments: the writing department for writing so horribly, the editorial department for not fixing it the first time around, and the beta-testers for not pointing it out to the writers and/or editors. Maybe even blame the programmers for including it. Maybe even the programmers for programming this stuff in, but they were probably either the writers or editors. Either way, these things went through three groups of people. And what, they didn't think gamers would notice? They didn't think poor spelling and grammar structure would reflect poorly on them? Because it's obvious these errors stood out for at least one gamer. The end of the civilized world as we know it (I'm surprised this wasn't written, "civilized-world-as-we-know-it") begins with poor writing in video games. (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977724668/screenshot/577806319670967058)

1. this might be the dumbest thread ever on a forum.
2.GFAD go **** a duck? really for such a anal ***** im suprised you'd say something like that.
3. who in the **** cares if some things mispeeled ime two bizzie havving a grate tyme witht teh gayme tu ****ign noetice.
4. C'MON MAN GET THE **** OUT ITS A DAMN GAME!
5. lol
6.trolololo

dbgager
31st Aug 2011, 23:41
This thread seriously game me a good chuckle. How can people be so anal as to make such a big deal out of almost nothing..Otaku how do you enjoy any game. I suggest you find another hobby.

KingNL
1st Sep 2011, 00:28
Don't feed the troll

Aguacater
1st Sep 2011, 15:20
Where you see a company making things wrong by allowing a few grammar mistakes into the final product, I see a hateful nerd who will never have friends who stand him because he rages over stupid meaningless stuff.

coehl
1st Sep 2011, 15:34
I was too busy enjoying the game to have noticed grammatical errors.

This.

ecto69
1st Sep 2011, 17:31
Turn off sub-titles problem solved...

DarkKnightDanny
1st Sep 2011, 17:38
Sorry O.P but turn on the news mate. Then come here complaining about such a trivial thing as grammer in a computer game.

JCpies
1st Sep 2011, 17:59
Sorry O.P but turn on the news mate. Then come here complaining about such a trivial thing as grammer in a computer game.

I think you mean "grammar".