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handgriffsorgfaeltig
30th Dec 2010, 10:59
maybe, that'll be interesting...

Cybernetics for the Masses (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4003.en.html) is a lecture by Lepht Anonym (http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/) at the 27C3 (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Main_Page) (27th Chaos Communication Congress) in Berlin. Get the stream here (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Documentation); there will be streamdumps available later.

TIMEzone IS GMT+1 !


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9294/lepth.jpg

->update<-

the lecture HQ (h264) mp4 (http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/27C3/mp4-h264-HQ/27c3-4003-en-cybernetics_for_the_masses.mp4)

the lecture on the tubus: part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Dv6dDtdcs) part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RV_6Axb80g) part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5n2aJeAGyM)

the lecture audio grab (http://www.mediafire.com/?k6a6l5hprh2bib9) by -=fox=-


what wasn't shown at the lecture...

homebrew neodymium implant procedure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYLaDSgv0ZY)

H.D.Case
30th Dec 2010, 11:52
maybe, that'll be interesting...

Cybernetics for the Masses (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4003.en.html) is a lecture at the 27C3 (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Main_Page) (27th Chaos Communication Congress) in Berlin. Get the stream here (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Documentation); there will be streamdumps available later.

TIMEzone IS GMT+1 !

Thanks for sharing!

JCpies
30th Dec 2010, 12:49
'Chaos Communication Congress'!? What is this, Doctor Who?

SageSavage
30th Dec 2010, 12:57
It's the 27th annual summit of Germany's Chaos Computer Club - one of the oldest and most respected hacker groups around.

H.D.Case
30th Dec 2010, 13:05
Ok, but the lecturer girl is apparently crazy :D

SageSavage
30th Dec 2010, 13:08
Original cyberpunk.

handgriffsorgfaeltig
30th Dec 2010, 13:12
Thanks for sharing!

sharing is caring ^^

Happy
30th Dec 2010, 14:19
maybe, that'll be interesting...

Cybernetics for the Masses (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4003.en.html) is a lecture by Lepht Anonym (http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/) at the 27C3 (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Main_Page) (27th Chaos Communication Congress) in Berlin. Get the stream here (http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Documentation); there will be streamdumps available later.

TIMEzone IS GMT+1 !


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9294/lepth.jpg

Thanks "Thorough Handgrip" :)

ZakKa89
30th Dec 2010, 18:30
They should have modelled fedorova after her. She looks bad ass.

Fox89
30th Dec 2010, 18:41
'Chaos Communication Congress'!? What is this, Doctor Who?

Only if they start reversing the polarity of something.

Rindill the Red
30th Dec 2010, 20:06
That girl talking looks like she's dying... which she might be... I don't know.

SageSavage
30th Dec 2010, 20:55
Lepht Anonym seems to be as hardcore and real as a Cyberpunk/Transhumanist can get and she (sorry, can't unsee) links to TTLG (http://www.ttlg.com/jukebox/) on her blog, so I betcha she's a fellow DXer/SSer (lepht@trioptimum.com) as well. Treat her with respect. I don't share her enthusiasm for cybernetics, in fact I find this kind of future not desireable at all but I can't help feeling great fascination for someone so extreme.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/transcending-the-human-diy-style/


“The existing transhumanist movement is lame. It’s nano everything. It’s just ideas,” she says. “Anyone can do this. This is kitchen stuff.”

Senka
31st Dec 2010, 01:01
That chick is crazy.

I like it.

edit: her blog is pretty.. off the chain

Donvermicelli
31st Dec 2010, 09:43
+1 for the share, this will be a good watch/read

handgriffsorgfaeltig
31st Dec 2010, 10:18
she was adorable ...

still waitin for a proper encoded recording to link to...


@-=fox=- thx for the wired-article (including the central ideas), nice read to bridge the timegap ^^

SageSavage
1st Jan 2011, 14:07
You know what they say... sharing is caring ;)

Seems like the recordings of this lecture are seriously broken but I hope someone over at the CCC will come up with a cleaned up video version sometime. In the mean time, people interested in the lecture can listen to this audio grab:
http://www.mediafire.com/?k6a6l5hprh2bib9
(I edited this out of two broken stream dumps and there was a very small gap, that I bridged with a silly sample - I believe it's just a few seconds that are missing though.)

handgriffsorgfaeltig
1st Jan 2011, 17:20
what wasn't shown at the lecture...

homebrew neodymium implant procedure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYLaDSgv0ZY)

SageSavage
1st Jan 2011, 18:06
It looks awfully painful.

pha
1st Jan 2011, 18:43
...and painfully awful.

JCpies
1st Jan 2011, 20:16
What exactly are those implants?

handgriffsorgfaeltig
1st Jan 2011, 20:36
What exactly are those implants?

what do you mean; layout or function?

JCpies
1st Jan 2011, 21:33
what do you mean; layout or function?

Function?

SageSavage
1st Jan 2011, 21:38
From the Wired-article:

An American body-modification artist of a similar mindset has created small metal discs of neodymium metal, coated in gold and silicon, which give off mild electric current when in a electromagnetic field. When inserted under the fingertips, this current stimulates the fingers’ nerve endings, allowing the bearer to literally feel the shape and strength of electromagnetic fields around power cords or electronic devices.

To be honest, I don't see why someone would want that but who am I to judge...

handgriffsorgfaeltig
1st Jan 2011, 21:40
she talked about sensors for RFID, temperature, electromagnetic fields and a new project; a compass ^^

SageSavage
1st Jan 2011, 21:49
Yeah, but she also said that RFID turned out to be rubbbish and that the temperature thing went wrong. I can't see much appeal in a subdermal compass either.

JCpies
1st Jan 2011, 22:09
How useful is feeling magnetic fields anyway? I mean, what do they use it for... Trying to find the TV remote when it's hidden under cushions?

SageSavage
2nd Jan 2011, 00:23
I think it's primarily about how (much) one can do implant surgery DIY-sytle and not so much about the the implants themselves. Slashing the dermis for fun and profit and all that.

JCpies
2nd Jan 2011, 09:37
'My fingers are augmented, I will be able to find your magnetic marbles in no time.' +100 xp

SageSavage
3rd Jan 2011, 01:59
Someone finally came up with a proper video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Dv6dDtdcs

handgriffsorgfaeltig
3rd Jan 2011, 11:39
nice catch -=fox=-, there is a point in watchin on shifts ^^

about the sense/nonsense of the sensors; it's not so much important which function they provide - it's important that they work flawless and open the range to next gen procedures.


-> lepht updated her blog; she had trouble with the gmailcrash, there'll be more info comming up !

-> the h264 encoded file is online (finally ^^) updated the 1st post for total media flood.

El_Bel
3rd Jan 2011, 14:27
Can someone quote here every bad ass line she said?

JCpies
3rd Jan 2011, 14:39
'They asked me to do a talk, so I'm doing a talk'.

Spyhopping
3rd Jan 2011, 18:27
Edging on unhinged, but I suppose it's not too much of a leap from tattoos and body piercing.

SageSavage
3rd Jan 2011, 18:39
I'd like to hear more opinions about the lecture from all the self-declared Transhumanists on this board. I'm looking at you, MyImmortal... ;)

Shralla
3rd Jan 2011, 18:57
I'm just going to go ahead and post this little bit that the comic book writer Warren Ellis wrote for Suicide Girls a year or two ago.

Link here: http://suicidegirls.com/news/culture/21863/

(that particular page is SFW)


Can you imagine being stabbed in the eyeball forty times? For fun? No, no, even better – for Art. And, of course, for The Future.

An acquaintance of mine has recently gotten his eyeballs tattooed.

Now, actual ocular decoration isn’t new. Contact lenses count, of course, and in Holland they’ve been doing decorative eye implants for three or four years, surgically placing jewels in the conjunctiva. Intraocular implants have been around for donkey’s years, of course, but it was only in the new years of the 21st Century that some Dutch surgeon muttered around a lungful of Red Leb, “I have thought of a way to bring more bling to this cataract surgery gig.” See, this is what we have to look forward to in the 21C. In previous years, people with too much time to think didn’t usually have access to high-end surgical tools, and when they revealed what they wanted to use them for, they were usually sterilized and locked up in a basement. But it’s only this year that someone could say to themselves, “I’ve got no ******* space left on my body now that I’ve had that map of the Isle of Man inked on the inside of my foreskin – it’s time to investigate how to get my eyeballs tattooed.” And then get it done.

Now, apparently corneal tattooing has been around for ages, covering up scars and leucomas and other disgusting ****. But it took Shannon Larratt, of the indispensable ModBlog and the BME online community of body-modification fanciers, to ask the question – what about scleral tattooing? Well, a specialist told him that tattooing your eyeball is basically dangerous and stupid. Shannon, being Shannon, decided that this was Condition Win and set out along with two friends to get stabbed in the eyemeat.

One of said cronies, of course, was Pauly Unstoppable, the boy who looks like his head has been attacked by three drunken carpenters and has occasionally been called “the man with the biggest nostrils in the world.” The funny thing about Pauly Unstoppable is that his facial modifications make him look somehow sorrowful all the time. He maintains he’s a happy guy, but every photo you see of him just makes you want to pat him on the head. Or give him some money.

Anyway. As documented on ModBlog in this month of July 2007, Shannon, Pauly and fellow gambler Josh had the whites of their eyes tattooed. Now, they’re not after fine detail. They’re after a blanket of alien colour: they want to stain the entire white of the eye. Forty needle strikes into Pauly’s eyes. Literally, some bloke poking a bit of metal into some other bloke’s eyeball forty times. Ah, but this wasn’t enough for Josh and Shannon. Josh and Shannon had their eyeballs injected with ink mixed with antibiotics. There is, on ModBlog, an oddly disturbing photo of run-off ink flowing back out of the syringe puncture. A man’s eye oozing blue pus.

That’s right. Blue. The Fremen look, from DUNE. Which is, as the original specialist told them, much more easily and safely accomplished with a custom contact lens.

So, is this just a staggeringly retarded thing to do? Well... possibly. I think the spirit of the thing is absolutely correct. Why have a bicycle and only ever ride it on the pavement? The body-modification community is doing important work in pushing the envelope of the human body. We’re only ever going to be issued one each, so we may as well find out what it can do. (Personally, I just like finding out how much whisky and wakey-wakey-stuff it can hold, but I never claimed to be hardcore.) So, yes, we laugh at people with permanently blue eyeballs, and Stelarc with the ear on his arm and Orlan and her surgically-grafted bone horns. But the point of these procedures is entirely serious – without these ever so slightly mental stab-o-nauts hellbent on wrecking their bodies in artistic ways, we’ll never define the edges of how the body can be made to look and operate. Already, bodymod homebrewers have given themselves a sixth sense by implanting into their hands devices sensitive to magnetic fields – feeling when they walk past hidden security devices, sensing electric motors. The stuff of science fiction, really, and perfect, even necessary, for these science fiction years we now find ourselves living in.

So, this Sunday, lift your hair of the dog to the mad scientists of the human meat business. And then think about being struck in the eyeball with a needle forty times for the sake of The Future.

handgriffsorgfaeltig
3rd Jan 2011, 19:09
reminds me of this line in the lecture 'hope you love needles' ;)

btw; i contacted lepht


...maybe you want to drop an exclusive statement ^^...

the reply will answer some conjectures


...i try not to get involved in threads discussing my
work, unless someone specifically asks me for comment. i will simply say
that i am glad you were looking forward to the lecture, and i am very
flattered that anyone would call me cyberpunk. i grew up playing Deus Ex,
System Shock and Doom and it's obviously rubbed off on me...

happy New Year

L


feel free to ask lepht your questions (lepht@trioptimum.com) or get in touch on her blog (http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/),
maybe we could collect some thoughts faq-like in here too...

Senka
4th Jan 2011, 03:22
Funny how that vid is 13.37 min long.

JCpies
4th Jan 2011, 09:37
It's a conspiracy!

Senka
5th Jan 2011, 00:42
No.

It's just someone who thought leet was a funny reference.

Red
6th Jan 2011, 16:39
Sexy.

Abram730
8th Jan 2011, 07:48
I Vote to.... Put her in the game!!!!

Come on imagine bumping into her talking about her DIY implant mishaps in game.

JCpies
8th Jan 2011, 11:19
I don't like being a 'normal', it sounds boring.