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rntrndrw
7th Aug 2010, 02:54
I noticed Kane's weapon of choice is absent from the demo, he used it exclusively in the first game, hes wielding it on the box art, and the intro to the demo shows him using it.

Yet I noticed its not an unlock-able gun in multi and I haven't seen any in-game footage of him using it.

I think its an awesome gun, and would love to see it return.

joe the janitor
7th Aug 2010, 03:35
There have been other topics like this http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=111952

ThisIsWhatHappensLarry
7th Aug 2010, 20:35
Yeah somebody else mentioned it's not in. Neither is the hk mp5, fn p90, m4 carbine and all the other guns that populate every other real life shooter. So what.

Kent-45
7th Aug 2010, 20:38
It's sort of a Kane & Lynch tradition, folks.

Kane & Lynch 1's cover art had a picture of a Browning Hi-Power handgun that was nowhere to be seen in the game.

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/kane_and_lynch_boxart.jpg

MxOAgentJohnson
7th Aug 2010, 20:44
Maybe the guns absent from online because its in single, remember kane and lynch dead men didnt have shotguns in multi, nor high powered machineguns or snipers, or the magnum

ThisIsWhatHappensLarry
7th Aug 2010, 20:54
This whole thing is ridiculous, here and in the other threads people are *****ing about it. Kane and Lynch are probably two of the deepest, most fully realized characters ever in video games and people are getting their nuts in a twist over the guns? If Kane were a real person, he'd probably have a preference for certain guns, being in that line of work for so long, but let's face it, at his heart he's just a mean son of a *****. That's what makes him Kane, same goes for Lynch for that matter - they'll kill you with what they got, whether it's the SIG rifle, buckshot, a cheap Chinese knockoff or a damn broken bottle. K&L themselves are the real weapons-

maninblue
7th Aug 2010, 21:03
This whole thing is ridiculous, here and in the other threads people are *****ing about it. Kane and Lynch are probably two of the deepest, most fully realized characters ever in video games and people are getting their nuts in a twist over the guns? If Kane were a real person, he'd probably have a preference for certain guns, being in that line of work for so long, but let's face it, at his heart he's just a mean son of a *****. That's what makes him Kane, same goes for Lynch for that matter - they'll kill you with what they got, whether it's the SIG rifle, buckshot, a cheap Chinese knockoff or a damn broken bottle. K&L themselves are the real weapons-

Whats wrong with wanting specific guns in the game? Hes asking politely for something that would just make the game better, whats wrong with that?

BeardedHoplite
7th Aug 2010, 21:07
Yeah somebody else mentioned it's not in. Neither is the hk mp5, fn p90, m4 carbine and all the other guns that populate every other real life shooter. So what.

I serously only saw the SIG in Blood Money, Dead Men (duh) and Rainbow Six: Vegas 2.

ThisIsWhatHappensLarry
7th Aug 2010, 21:22
Whats wrong with wanting specific guns in the game? Hes asking politely for something that would just make the game better, whats wrong with that?

Yeah, my bad man. Not trying to knock you rntrndrw - it's just that I'm a designer, and so I really appreciate that the art direction in this series isn't just good, it's unprecedented. Pair that with a script that rivals anything Hollywood comes out with these days ( I'm sure they'll find a way to **** up the movie) and you have something really special that dozens of talented people poured hours and days into. I just hate to see all of that reduced to an argument over the firepower, which I see as treated in DD appropriately as an extension of the environment-

PirateGuy
7th Aug 2010, 22:32
I'm really only upset about this because it was Kane's signature gun, and it's just a bit dissapointing not to see it in the game. There's always mods though. :D

MxOAgentJohnson
7th Aug 2010, 22:52
I serously only saw the SIG in Blood Money, Dead Men (duh) and Rainbow Six: Vegas 2.

Counter strike and counter strike source both have the sig

ChrmoSchwinn/Terry Bogard
7th Aug 2010, 22:55
I too miss the Sig, though in the Sequel's Multiplayer it won't even be needed.

The Multiplayer is all about close to medium range fire fights. If you were busy concentrating, looking down your fine-aim sights in the Sequel for too long, someone will probably run up behind you and place their Left Arm around your Neck and their Right Hand on your Buttcheek, throw you to the ground and KILL YOU.

rntrndrw
7th Aug 2010, 23:39
Yeah, my bad man. Not trying to knock you rntrndrw - it's just that I'm a designer, and so I really appreciate that the art direction in this series isn't just good, it's unprecedented. Pair that with a script that rivals anything Hollywood comes out with these days ( I'm sure they'll find a way to **** up the movie) and you have something really special that dozens of talented people poured hours and days into. I just hate to see all of that reduced to an argument over the firepower, which I see as treated in DD appropriately as an extension of the environment-

I think this game looks amazing, im not knocking the art direction, Im also not trying to start an argument.

I went out and bought k&l dead men as soon as I played the DD demo and beat it. I wanted to know as much about these two guys as I could find (which isnt much since the first game left out a lot it seems.)

One thing I noticed was there choice of weapons. Lynch wields a shotgun which I think is perfect for his style. And Kane being much more calculated used an automatic rifle, the SIG 552.

I guess it makes sense he wouldn't bring it to shanghai with him on board a plane(im assuming thats how he got there)

I also think the SCAR seems more out of place then the Sig would be, but thats just IMO.

Again not trying to argue, I love the guns they have now. They all seem to handle A LOT better then the first game.

Vulture
8th Aug 2010, 00:46
It's sort of a Kane & Lynch tradition, folks.

Kane & Lynch 1's cover art had a picture of a Browning Hi-Power handgun that was nowhere to be seen in the game.

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/kane_and_lynch_boxart.jpg

now that you mention it. Dead Men had one of the best boxarts .

JackGordon
8th Aug 2010, 01:14
now that you mention it. Dead Men had one of the best boxarts .
Feckin' seconded. One day, I will have it hanging as a poster on my wall.

joe the janitor
8th Aug 2010, 01:47
I didn't like all the white on the Dead Men box Art..... Imagine if it were black and gray city with purple lights, OH and it took place in Shanghai, and Kane was screaming, also Lynch could be holding a shotgun! Man, that would be sooooo cool!

ohitspatty
8th Aug 2010, 03:21
I didn't like all the white on the Dead Men box Art..... Imagine if it were black and gray city with purple lights, OH and it took place in Shanghai, and Kane was screaming, also Lynch could be holding a shotgun! Man, that would be sooooo cool!

http://www.platformnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Kane-and-Lynch-2-PC-Box.jpg
Like that? I just threw that together in Paint.

Brackstone17
8th Aug 2010, 03:53
There is still a faint hope. The light machine gun that is in the single player game wasn't in the fragile alliance selection. Just throwing that out there.

rntrndrw
8th Aug 2010, 04:31
Nice, there he is, in shanghai with the Sig... pretty awesome box art IMO

I never played the first one online so I didn't know that certain guns didn't make it online.

Hopefully for the single-player at least...

War Thrash
8th Aug 2010, 08:12
now that you mention it. Dead Men had one of the best boxarts .

Yeah, but I was always bothered by Lynch's full head of hair. He's not balding like he's supposed to be.

SovietAmerika
8th Aug 2010, 08:21
Yeah, but I was always bothered by Lynch's full head of hair. He's not balding like he's supposed to be.
when you have the game in the xbox 360 the picture on Disk In Tray has Lynch completely bald.

ohitspatty
8th Aug 2010, 09:07
Yeah, but I was always bothered by Lynch's full head of hair. He's not balding like he's supposed to be.

Or the fact they don't really look like Kane & Lynch in game? :scratch:

maninblue
8th Aug 2010, 12:22
There is still a faint hope. The light machine gun that is in the single player game wasn't in the fragile alliance selection. Just throwing that out there.

I think your right, we still havent seen all the weapons. Keeping my fingers crossed.

sigrun
8th Aug 2010, 20:46
This really annoys me in games. When they have something in a trailer or on box art that isn't any where in the game. Not because I want that particular item or what ever, but because it's so inconsistent and gives the impression that they don't really see these details...

It just annoys me. I mean doesn't the whole team communicate about the content of the game so they don't represent it incorrectly or put something where it shouldn't??

It's not the end of the world, but it seems such a simple thing to avoid...

Unpaid Intern
8th Aug 2010, 22:54
It just annoys me. I mean doesn't the whole team communicate about the content of the game so they don't represent it incorrectly or put something where it shouldn't??

Normally, the publisher and their marketing team have a lot to say about box art and advertising material. If the devs and marketing aren't synched, seeing eye-to-eye, you get this strange dissonance in what should be a unified message. The Freedom Fighters box art was a perfect example:

yeah..........
http://students.cup.edu/kal5419/freedomWallpaper4_800.jpg

ScarletSnake
9th Aug 2010, 00:45
I noticed Kane's weapon of choice is absent from the demo, he used it exclusively in the first game, hes wielding it on the box art, and the intro to the demo shows him using it.

Yet I noticed its not an unlock-able gun in multi and I haven't seen any in-game footage of him using it.

I think its an awesome gun, and would love to see it return.

We've talked about this already... Why don't you look up the weapons thread before actually posting something that already exists?

maninblue
9th Aug 2010, 13:41
We've talked about this already... Why don't you look up the weapons thread before actually posting something that already exists?


Hey, the more people we have voicing their opinion on this the better, so why dont stop posting this kind of **** and let people do their thing? Its not like hes making a new thread or something, hes just posting.

ScarletSnake
9th Aug 2010, 15:18
Generally on forums when you re-post existing things you'll get flamed. Some forums will even have mods. send you warnings in PM to stop re-posting already existing threads. I was kindly suggesting something, take your attitude somewhere else. :rasp:

rntrndrw
9th Aug 2010, 17:29
Normally, the publisher and their marketing team have a lot to say about box art and advertising material. If the devs and marketing aren't synched, seeing eye-to-eye, you get this strange dissonance in what should be a unified message. The Freedom Fighters box art was a perfect example:

yeah..........

Wait... I dont see it. I played the **** out of that game, cover looks about right... Bunch of ragtag soldiers having to duke it out in war torn america.

Might have gone over my head... :scratch:

LUCKYDOGSLEVIN
9th Aug 2010, 20:14
Im not sure if its been mentioned before but kane and lynch are in china this time, and guns would reflect where the game takes place, to go with the story line. This was what i heard from an online interview with one of the devos.

Unpaid Intern
9th Aug 2010, 23:44
Wait... I dont see it. I played the **** out of that game, cover looks about right... Bunch of ragtag soldiers having to duke it out in war torn america.

Well, the theme is right of course but the style is way off. Even if they didn't want to use in-game graphics, they could have been much more faithful to the style.

And as far as what the cover image is actually trying to convey: what is it? Bunch of rebels posing for the camera? They could have done something more inspired and having much more impact IMO.

ChrmoSchwinn/Terry Bogard
10th Aug 2010, 00:51
Jeebers, deal with it Ladies! No M4. No SIG 552. No Body Armour. No Grenades. It's a different Game, SET IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. Enough!

rntrndrw
10th Aug 2010, 16:10
Well, the theme is right of course but the style is way off. Even if they didn't want to use in-game graphics, they could have been much more faithful to the style.

And as far as what the cover image is actually trying to convey: what is it? Bunch of rebels posing for the camera? They could have done something more inspired and having much more impact IMO.

Oh ok, I see... yea the cover is pretty stupid. I guess I never really looked too deep into it.

maninblue
10th Aug 2010, 18:07
Jeebers, deal with it Ladies! No M4. No SIG 552. No Body Armour. No Grenades. It's a different Game, SET IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. Enough!

but there is a LMG;):rasp:

ChrmoSchwinn/Terry Bogard
10th Aug 2010, 21:15
but there is a LMG;):rasp:

Can it be used in Multiplayer?

SovietAmerika
10th Aug 2010, 21:32
Well, the theme is right of course but the style is way off. Even if they didn't want to use in-game graphics, they could have been much more faithful to the style.

And as far as what the cover image is actually trying to convey: what is it? Bunch of rebels posing for the camera? They could have done something more inspired and having much more impact IMO.

maybe something with kane down on his back shooting and screaming and lynch freaking out behind cover?

Unpaid Intern
10th Aug 2010, 21:58
Are we still talking about Freedom Fighters? :)

As far as the DD box art, I much preferred the first high-res image released; the one with psychotic, bloodied Lynch smiling and Kane on the phone. It has more attitude and says everything you need to know about the game.

The one that was chosen isn't bad per se, just very middle of the road. Less like to trigger a shopper to pick up the box and look it over IMO.