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Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 01:50
Well, okay then. I finally finished this damn thing. I went about it in a slightly more complicated process than I've tried before. So I decided to show you that process... just to make clear how wonderful I am.

First, I set up my composition in Smith Micro's Poser; getting the perspectives, angles and poses just right.

This is the new step in my process. I've never done this before, but I imagine I'll use it for my more complicated pieces, from now on.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/Pinky%20Art/JCvsNorrisPoser.jpg

Then I take the Poser image into Photoshop and place a grid over it. Then I draw a grid on my Prelim Page (standard printer paper; 8.5x11). And I reference the two grids as I draw the prelim.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/Pinky%20Art/JCvsNorris-PrelimS.jpg

Once that's finished, I scan it into my computer and print a larger version of it out; taking up two full sheets. Using my Lightbox, I trace that blown-up prelim onto a sheet of my high-quality BlueLine Comic Board (11x17). And from there I do all my line-work in pencil (Turquoise brand, H grade lead). And then it's all Inking until the piece is finished.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/Pinky%20Art/JCvsNorrisFinal2S.jpg

Graeme
9th Jul 2010, 01:53
Haha - that's awesome. What's your next project?

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 01:58
Your mum.

TrickyVein
9th Jul 2010, 02:09
OK, I sure as hell thought I was looking at something completely different (and rather kinky) when I saw just the initial poser-setup.

What's AJ doing off to the side there anyway? Just chillin', gonna take a drag on his cigarette/cigar/blunt/pipe/*** while JC does all the hard work.

Seriously? Censor ***? Aren't there a lot of redcoats here?

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 02:18
One interpretation could be that JC is teaching Jensen how to be awesome. Only time will tell if he learned enough.

TrickyVein
9th Jul 2010, 02:22
JC looks so smug - he's going to shoot this bastard and he's smiling.

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 02:26
He's tryin' really hard not to smile. But there's just that little curve at the corner of his mouth.

Can you really blame him?

TrickyVein
9th Jul 2010, 02:30
No, man - I don't blame the man. After the things he's seen and what he's been through - imagine not being able to smile once throughout all of that "saving the world" business - now, finally, letting off some steam by taking out this Texas Ranger punk. He's probably just starting to open up a world of hurt. The gun isn't even loaded, but he'll squeeze the trigger anyway just to feel this trash squirm.

Shadowdagger
9th Jul 2010, 06:11
You know Pinky, the way JC is holding Chuck looks really dirty somehow. :whistle:


Cool pic, btw ;)

Kodaemon
9th Jul 2010, 06:48
Creative criticism (from someone who can't draw if his life depended on it): JC's and Chuck's right hands. They look like little atrophied mutant hands. I know you were trying for perspective/foreshortening, but you overdid it.

Look at Chuck's arm in the initial 3d and compare to the sketch: you added the necessary muscle, skin etc. starting from the shoulder, but then, going towards the hand, the forearm gradually loses all of that, and is a thin as the underlying bone at the end.

Other than that, pretty cool!

Angel-A
9th Jul 2010, 06:54
This is awesome and... and strangely arousing...

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 07:23
but then, going towards the hand, the forearm gradually loses all of that, and is a thin as the underlying bone at the end.

Yeah, I think you're right.

I really think the Poser models made a number of things worse; confusing me in ways I'm not usually confused. JC's pose in general is rather mundane and not so good. If I had just let my pencil form the things out, it would have been better.

But the perspectives and general framing are better than they would have been. But the foreshortening is messed up.

So, it's sort of a give and take, and I'll have to work on my technique.

Romeo
9th Jul 2010, 07:44
I would just like to point out that JC would be unable to shoot Chuck Norris - you forgot to factor in that Mr Norris would have already ripped out JC's heart and eaten it. And ripped out Adam's mechanical arms and beat him to death with them. ;)

pringlepower
9th Jul 2010, 08:25
I would just like to point out that JC would be unable to shoot Chuck Norris - you forgot to factor in that Mr Norris would have already ripped out JC's heart and eaten it. And ripped out Adam's mechanical arms and beat him to death with them. ;)

Unless they're in Soviet Russia.

Angel-A
9th Jul 2010, 09:07
I would just like to point out that JC would be unable to shoot Chuck Norris - you forgot to factor in that Mr Norris would have already ripped out JC's heart and eaten it. And ripped out Adam's mechanical arms and beat him to death with them. ;)
HERETIC
Shun the non-believer.




Chuck Norris doesn't have augmentations, nor does he have really cool sunglasses, neither are any "facts" about him even quasi true. I think someone needs to have a long sit in the "What a Shame" corner...

Cylon
9th Jul 2010, 10:47
BURN HER!!!!!!! ;)


Seriously though; impressive Pinky!

JC looks like hes going 'LOL U n00b! THIS is how U pwn in PVP!!!'

itsalladream
9th Jul 2010, 13:35
I would just like to point out that JC would be unable to shoot Chuck Norris - you forgot to factor in that Mr Norris would have already ripped out JC's heart and eaten it. And ripped out Adam's mechanical arms and beat him to death with them. ;)

Except...no.****

Romeo
9th Jul 2010, 13:54
HERETIC
Shun the non-believer.




Chuck Norris doesn't have augmentations, nor does he have really cool sunglasses, neither are any "facts" about him even quasi true. I think someone needs to have a long sit in the "What a Shame" corner...
My name isn't Charlie!

I'm sorry gents, but I was watching Texas Ranger before I was playing Deus Ex, and there's waaay more Chuck Norris fans that Deus Ex fans. It is just the way it is.

Also, JC doesn't have awesome beardz.

Kodaemon
9th Jul 2010, 14:06
Also, JC doesn't have awesome beardz.

Aha! Now we know why Adam is in the pic, he's neutralizing Chuck's beard with his goatee.

Dead-Eye
9th Jul 2010, 16:09
That's really good, however I kinda wanna take it into Photoshop and "remix" it a little. JC seems a littler Thin and tall which makes me think he's Neo instead of JC. Besides that everything else is fantastic.

Edit: Although what's with all the holes?


I would just like to point out that JC would be unable to shoot Chuck Norris - you forgot to factor in that Mr Norris would have already ripped out JC's heart and eaten it. And ripped out Adam's mechanical arms and beat him to death with them. ;)

You forget that we (The Deus Ex Community) have officially determined, via telepathic vote, that JC is cooler then Chuck Norris.
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=110567
http://jcdentonfacts.110mb.com/
http://blog.esaba.com/projects/facts/index.php?n=JC%20Denton&g=male

hem dazon 90
9th Jul 2010, 16:26
Aha! Now we know why Adam is in the pic, he's neutralizing Chuck's beard with his goatee.


You know you spend too much time on /b/ when you read "goatee" as "goatse"

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 16:55
Edit: Although what's with all the holes?

What "holes"?

Angel-A
9th Jul 2010, 16:58
My name isn't Charlie!

I'm sorry gents, but I was watching Texas Ranger before I was playing Deus Ex, and there's waaay more Chuck Norris fans that Deus Ex fans. It is just the way it is.

Also, JC doesn't have awesome beardz.

"Shun the non-believer" has existed in pop culture long before "Charlie the Unicorn"...

Fans=/=Chuck being more awesome. J.C. would still pwn Chuck IRL.

Uh... Paul has the goatee. As such, J.C. does not need one.



Edit: Although what's with all the holes?

Snow...

Pinky_Powers
9th Jul 2010, 17:01
Snow...

Thank you. I figured that's what he meant, but I would let someone else answer him... I was confident the effect wasn't lost on everybody.

Exian
9th Jul 2010, 17:25
Brilliant stuff Pinky :)

Dead-Eye
9th Jul 2010, 17:30
Snow...

ooooooOOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhhhhh... I see it now.

Romeo
9th Jul 2010, 22:44
1)"Shun the non-believer" has existed in pop culture long before "Charlie the Unicorn"...

2) Fans=/=Chuck being more awesome. J.C. would still pwn Chuck IRL.

3) Uh... Paul has the goatee. As such, J.C. does not need one.


Snow...
1) Pics or it didn't happen. Nah but seriously, I can't think of any other way to read those four fantastic little word but in that annoying voice. :p

2) Nah man, impossible. Chuck Norris is bullet-proof, aug-proof, and just generally everything-proof.

3) Beard > Mustache > Goatee. As such, Paul would still find himself lower on the scale that say Romeo Crennel, or Jesus. :lmao:

SlySpy
10th Jul 2010, 00:48
I like the artwork overall, but something bothers me about JC. He seems too damn skinny to me for some reason. Adam and Norris are drawn pretty good though.


1) Pics or it didn't happen. Nah but seriously, I can't think of any other way to read those four fantastic little word but in that annoying voice. :p

2) Nah man, impossible. Chuck Norris is bullet-proof, aug-proof, and just generally everything-proof.

3) Beard > Mustache > Goatee. As such, Paul would still find himself lower on the scale that say Romeo Crennel, or Jesus. :lmao:

Bruce Lee scared Chuck Norris' beard off his face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqzQ2qrtBeg

Anyway, people who are still with that bs Chuck Norris fad = dumb. It was a dumb fad even when it was new. Get off Norris' jock.

Pinky_Powers
10th Jul 2010, 01:03
I like the artwork overall, but something bothers me about JC. He seems too damn skinny to me for some reason. Adam and Norris are drawn pretty good though.



Bruce Lee scared Chuck Norris' beard off his face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqzQ2qrtBeg

Anyway, people who are still with that bs Chuck Norris fad = dumb. It was a dumb fad even when it was new. Get off Norris' jock.

You're hereby banned from my thread.

TrickyVein
10th Jul 2010, 02:18
Ahhhhh...Chuck Norris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4NqL5udFnI&feature=related

FrankCSIS
10th Jul 2010, 02:34
Norris has one predator on top of him in the food chain. It's Steve McQueen who got Norris into movies. He was training with Bruce Lee and Norris at the time.

Then again, it's McQueen. He just outcools everyone.

TrickyVein
10th Jul 2010, 02:45
Great Escapin' bullit-blobin Muthahumpin' Steve MCQUEEN??!!!?

Romeo
10th Jul 2010, 03:01
Norris has one predator on top of him in the food chain. It's Steve McQueen who got Norris into movies. He was training with Bruce Lee and Norris at the time.

Then again, it's McQueen. He just outcools everyone.
And more importantly - Bullitt.

Mustang = WII11111NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

I like the artwork overall, but something bothers me about JC. He seems too damn skinny to me for some reason. Adam and Norris are drawn pretty good though.



Bruce Lee scared Chuck Norris' beard off his face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqzQ2qrtBeg

Anyway, people who are still with that bs Chuck Norris fad = dumb. It was a dumb fad even when it was new. Get off Norris' jock.
You were a dumb fad even when you were new.

No, but seriously, it was an awesome fad, and still is. You get off your high horse and lighten up a little, obviously we're just screwing around in here.

You're hereby banned from my thread.
Agreed. This thread is for dorks with a sense of humour only. :p

TrickyVein
10th Jul 2010, 03:24
Oh yeah - why's it snowing, Pinky? Snow is great, and I luff it like sauteing garlic and onion together but - and I'm asking probably because I'm suffering through a heat wave on the East Coast this side of the globe - why the cold stuff?

Norris attacked JC at his Antarctic winter refuge along with the penguins?

Norris was seeking the secret of some martial arts and was training at high elevations when JC attacked him?

Pinky_Powers
10th Jul 2010, 03:38
Oh yeah - why's it snowing, Pinky? Snow is great, and I luff it like sauteing garlic and onion together but - and I'm asking probably because I'm suffering through a heat wave on the East Coast this side of the globe - why the cold stuff?

The answer to this is... well...

I originally intended to paint the sky pitch black and spangle it with bright stars. White over black makes for a very vivid image. But the brush I was using to ink the sky was making this lovely cloud effect, and I liked it. But I couldn't very well have thick clouds AND stars. So the thought of adding in snow came to me, and I got very excited by it. I think it works even better than the stars would have.

TrickyVein
10th Jul 2010, 14:27
:thumb:

Ashbery76
10th Jul 2010, 14:32
Chuck norris getting raped?

xsamitt
10th Jul 2010, 15:40
good old Chuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=WVzc680Z2JU&feature=related

Pinky_Powers
11th Jul 2010, 01:26
Right O. I finally did some fixing of that arm and small-hands issue. It's not perfect. It's hard working over that much white-out. But it's significantly better than The Old One (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/JCvsNorrisFinalS.jpg).

Angel-A
11th Jul 2010, 02:19
Looks much better; the level of awesome in this thread has now increased several dozen times.


1) Pics or it didn't happen. Nah but seriously, I can't think of any other way to read those four fantastic little word but in that annoying voice. :p

2) Nah man, impossible. Chuck Norris is bullet-proof, aug-proof, and just generally everything-proof.

3) Beard > Mustache > Goatee. As such, Paul would still find himself lower on the scale that say Romeo Crennel, or Jesus. :lmao:

1) ShhhhhuunnnNNNNNNNNNNN

2) O RLY, NAO?

3) http://www.chucknorris.com/images/flagman.jpg Goatee> Stubble.
And: J.C.D.= Jesus Christ Denton. Everybody knows that...

Romeo
11th Jul 2010, 07:10
Looks much better; the level of awesome in this thread has now increased several dozen times.



1) ShhhhhuunnnNNNNNNNNNNN

2) O RLY, NAO?

3) http://www.chucknorris.com/images/flagman.jpg Goatee> Stubble.
And: J.C.D.= Jesus Christ Denton. Everybody knows that...
1) LOL!!! Oh Christ, they took my liver...

2) omgwtfbbq. ya, 4 rly.

3) Oh god damn, I missed that conspiracy. Time for yet another playthrough! =P

Ilves
11th Jul 2010, 11:49
I feel sorry for Chuck in that pic. That can't be right?

edit: I love the gritty look of the inks in the night sky, Pinky. Digital inking ought to be banned! :p

Angel-A
11th Jul 2010, 14:38
1) LOL!!! Oh Christ, they took my liver...

2) omgwtfbbq. ya, 4 rly.

3) Oh god damn, I missed that conspiracy. Time for yet another playthrough! =P

1) That's what you get for denying J.C.'s awesomeness...

2) Well cool story, bro.

3) Oh yes, bug Walton Simons enough and he'll say J.C.'s real name. :p

Romeo
11th Jul 2010, 18:28
1) That's what you get for denying J.C.'s awesomeness...

2) Well cool story, bro.

3) Oh yes, bug Walton Simons enough and he'll say J.C.'s real name. :p
1) Oh he's awesome, Chuck's just awesome-er.

2) ya, thot so.

3) Jesus Christ, Denton. lol

Kodaemon
11th Jul 2010, 18:40
The answer to this is... well...

I originally intended to paint the sky pitch black and spangle it with bright stars. White over black makes for a very vivid image. But the brush I was using to ink the sky was making this lovely cloud effect, and I liked it. But I couldn't very well have thick clouds AND stars. So the thought of adding in snow came to me, and I got very excited by it. I think it works even better than the stars would have.

Of course it does. After all, Snow Means Death. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnowMeansDeath)

Angel-A
11th Jul 2010, 21:04
1) Oh he's awesome, Chuck's just awesome-er.

2) ya, thot so.

3) Jesus Christ, Denton. lol

1) Liar, stop lying.

2) Very well.

3) He's nano-augmented Jesus, healing the sick, and directing traffic!

KSingh77
11th Jul 2010, 22:58
Chuck Norris doesn't need auto health regen.

Health regen needs Chuck Norris.

Romeo
12th Jul 2010, 02:15
1) liar, stop lying.

2) very well.

3) he's nano-augmented jesus, healing the sick, and directing traffic!
I really feel like these senseless list rebuttles have brought us closer together. LOL

chuck norris doesn't need auto health regen.

health regen needs chuck norris.
WIN!!!

Dead-Eye
19th Jul 2010, 19:26
Man, I love this picture.

Angel-A
21st Jul 2010, 21:07
This thread should be stickied.

Pinky_Powers
21st Jul 2010, 21:24
This thread should be stickied.

Because of my awesome drawing? Or because of all the random yammering?

Ps. The correct answer is "because of the drawing".

Romeo
22nd Jul 2010, 01:02
Because of my awesome drawing? Or because of all the random yammering?

Ps. The correct answer is "because of the drawing".
Hehehe. NORRIS KNOWS NO LIMITS. :lol:

APostLife
22nd Jul 2010, 10:07
Awesome drawing. Great talent there. ^_^. But just one thing, JC Denton looks too skinny if you ask me. I swear he's abit more buff than in the drawing. Adam looks absolutely fine.

You got anymore drawings? :)

Pinky_Powers
23rd Jul 2010, 00:24
Awesome drawing. Great talent there. ^_^. But just one thing, JC Denton looks too skinny if you ask me. I swear he's abit more buff than in the drawing. Adam looks absolutely fine.

You got anymore drawings? :)

Tons and tons. But only a few on Photobucket. I used to have a dedicated host, where I had all my stuff uploaded. But no more.

http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/Pinky%20Art/

Jerion
23rd Jul 2010, 00:33
It's great, though JC's too tall. :)

Romeo
23rd Jul 2010, 04:43
'Everybody is a critic...'

lol

Pinky_Powers
23rd Jul 2010, 04:54
He's mostly just too thin. Those damn Poser models messed me up a good bit.

Romeo
23rd Jul 2010, 05:06
LOL.

I'm not a fashion guru, but isn't the saying "Thin is in?" Doesn't translate well into cars though. Give me a sexy, wide, fat car any day. =P

Pinky_Powers
23rd Jul 2010, 05:15
You can see in my other (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/JCKnifeS.jpg) drawings (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/TheDentonstealthkill-pencilS.jpg) that I do understand JC's proportions. But it all got lost in the complication of the new method.

Algarys
23rd Jul 2010, 09:13
So you would attack a MJ12 commando with just a knife ^^
You are very talented, love the snow effect you put on the JC VS Chuck drawing :)
Who is JC attacking here (http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/?action=view&current=TheDentonstealthkill-pencilS.jpg) ?

Pinky_Powers
23rd Jul 2010, 09:30
So you would attack a MJ12 commando with just a knife ^^

I would if Deus Ex had realistic stealth takedowns. A huge sharp piece of metal would have no trouble cutting through that armor if handled correctly.


Who is JC attacking here (http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Pinky_Powers/?action=view&current=TheDentonstealthkill-pencilS.jpg) ?

Roland Biggles from Hong Kong. Paul ate the bloke's cat and wore his skins for underwear. And as always, JC has to clean up his brother's mess.

Jerion
23rd Jul 2010, 17:55
I'm serious, he looks too tall to me. JC isn't a tall dude. He's usually as tall as or shorter than most of the people he talks to.

Angel-A
23rd Jul 2010, 17:55
I'm serious, he looks too tall to me. JC isn't a tall dude. He's usually as tall as or shorter than most of the people he talks to.
DX actually specified that J.C. is 6' 2''



Because of my awesome drawing? Or because of all the random yammering?

Ps. The correct answer is "because of the drawing".

The drawing, duhr.

Sticky This Thread 'cause it has J.C. Denton kicking Chuck Norris's ass. While Adam Jensen watches.




*And if that's not enough*
http://picture.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5904/Sticky-this-thread.jpg

Pretentious Old Man.
23rd Jul 2010, 18:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLQ2MHuzYo4

Jumpt to near the end. You will see why Denton > Norris.

Romeo
24th Jul 2010, 05:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLQ2MHuzYo4

Jumpt to near the end. You will see why Denton > Norris.
But what you fail to see is that the cameraman who can walk on air is Norris. He was actually the one who killed everyone in that complex. :rolleyes:

PizzaNo1
25th Jul 2010, 12:12
Impressive picture Pinky_powers! But doesn't that picture violate some major rule of physics/coolics Pinky?

The rule that states: 'two forces of cool cannot be at the same spot at the same time'?
Then again as someone pointed out, the relation of coolity and beard: Adams beard helps neutralise chuck's, since 'two beards in close proximity to each other will enhance cool factor by powers of two, unless one beard equals goatee, then cool factor will decrease.'

Romeo
25th Jul 2010, 22:33
No law is strong enough to restrain Chuck Norris, laws of physics included.

FrankCSIS
25th Jul 2010, 23:47
two forces of cool cannot be at the same spot at the same time

This explains why there has never been a movie with Sam Jackson and Chris Walken doing scenes together.

This law must've been passed after 1959 though. Or they just couldn't stop Sinatra and McQueen from appearing together in Never so Few.