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ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 17:13
Anybody know this? I noticed that they are "activated" in every ingame screenshot.

I hope he "takes them off" in some conversations, because we know the camera will switch to him sometimes like in mass effect right?

EDIT: lol I forgot the main reason why I wanted to post this thread: The emotions will look better without his glasses on in conversations.

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 17:37
Well, my idea is that those glasses provide light while at night. Its like, F12 button in DX1 :D.
Those glasses are augmented after all :D

Fluffis
20th Jun 2010, 17:41
Well, my idea is that those glasses provide light while at night. Its like, F12 button in DX1 :D.
Those glasses are augmented after all :D

My idea is that they are there to look cool. :)

Ilves
20th Jun 2010, 17:51
What's the point of designing those glasses in the first place if you can't put 'em on/off at the press of a button while in 1st person view? :cool:

remmus
20th Jun 2010, 17:51
well JC always wore his shades...

my guess they are part of his attempt to hide his augmentation so they might be on in public spots and flip back in combat moments.

Or there tied to one/several augmentations and slip in/out when you turns those augs on/off

Fluffis
20th Jun 2010, 17:55
What's the point of designing those glasses in the first place if you can't put 'em on/off at the press of a button while in 1st person view? :cool:

Looking cool in the third person switches.

KSingh77
20th Jun 2010, 18:36
I wonder how those shades stay on him.

Glue?

Fluffis
20th Jun 2010, 18:40
I wonder how those shades stay on him.

Glue?

Looks like they're augmented in. Makes you wonder why JC had to make do with a pair of regular ones, when a mech can have his installed. Nanites do so much else, you'd think the lazy little buggers could create a couple of sunglasses in between activations. :nut:

pringlepower
20th Jun 2010, 19:14
better question: where do they go when retracted
and why do the shades have the motorola symbol on them

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 19:15
better question: where do they go when retracted
and why do the shades have the motorola symbol on them

Good question :D
btw, they have Eidos Logo on them.

Fluffis
20th Jun 2010, 19:19
better question: where do they go when retracted


Yeah... that is interesting. Are we talking intermittent lobotomy here, or what? It all does seem a bit too much work, to just have a couple of specs.

ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 19:22
In the trailer we see adam without them, And I like that look. I don't want to look at his glasses everytime I see him in a cutscene or dialogue scene.

Don't get me wrong, they are awesome, but not if the keeps them on 24/7.

KSingh77
20th Jun 2010, 19:22
Lets hope Adam's hi tech shades have anti virus software.

It's a pain dealing with pop up ads,imagine those popping up while in the middle of a gunfight.

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 19:25
Lets hope Adam's hi tech shades have anti virus software.

It's a pain dealing with pop up ads,imagine those popping up while in the middle of a gunfight.

Maybe u can upgrade those glasses to lvl 2 with a antivirus so the viagra pop-ins wont be a problem anymore. :D

Shadowdagger
20th Jun 2010, 19:26
Adam without the glasses? Blasphemy!

TheYouthCounselor
20th Jun 2010, 19:33
Yeah personally, I think Adam looks cooler with them retracted.

I'm also hoping for some shirtless gameplay.

ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 19:34
Adam without the glasses? Blasphemy!

You take that back :D

http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/1/1/8/6/2/4/ss_preview_21.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 19:38
I'm also hoping for some shirtless gameplay.

Wow dude, that is going somewhere......:whistle:

ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 19:38
lol I forgot the main reason why I wanted to post this thread: The emotions will look better without his glasses on in conversations.

KSingh77
20th Jun 2010, 19:40
I'm also hoping for some shirtless gameplay.

Will Adam's chest sparkly and shine?

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 19:41
Will Adam's chest sparkly and shine?

I doubt it. It will be white and hairy.

Algarys
20th Jun 2010, 19:45
His chest is augmented. <.<

Fluffis
20th Jun 2010, 20:00
His chest is augmented. <.<

You mean "shaved"...

It's interesting. Almost no video game heroes have a hairy chest. Or back, for that matter. :)

Artfunkel
20th Jun 2010, 20:14
He'll keep the glasses on when he doesn't want to be recognised as augmented, which may well be a lot of the time.

ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 20:18
He'll keep the glasses on when he doesn't want to be recognised as augmented, which may well be a lot of the time.


You know the giant hexagon/octagon on his forehead kinda gives it away...

Corpus
20th Jun 2010, 20:21
You know the giant hexagon/octagon on his forehead kinda gives it away...

Less recognizable. Most of the basic ones you can see when he's in his coat don't give the idea away that he's heavily augmented. The head aug might just be for better integration with computer systems, which anyone could very well have.

ZakKa89
20th Jun 2010, 20:27
Less recognizable. Most of the basic ones you can see when he's in his coat don't give the idea away that he's heavily augmented. The head aug might just be for better integration with computer systems, which anyone could very well have.

Makes sense.

So I guess that that^ is socially excepted and arms with hidden bladed and a hand that spins people 360 degrees not. Understandable.

Badmaker
20th Jun 2010, 20:30
So I guess that that^ is socially excepted and arms with hidden bladed and a hands that spins people 360 degrees not. Understandable.

Understandable, when comparable.......with a skull gun ;)

Algarys
20th Jun 2010, 20:53
You mean "shaved"...

It's interesting. Almost no video game heroes have a hairy chest. Or back, for that matter. :)

Yeah indeed.
Here, it may indicate that the trend of shaved chests will be much more popular in the future ! Huhu \o/

(...or maybe it is just because of the heavy surgery :D )

Chansu
21st Jun 2010, 01:19
I agree that Adam without shades has more emotional depth. With them, he pretty much ranges from bad-ass to bad-ass, which is fine for moments when you want to be bad-ass.

If they do come and go, though, it will be automatic. There are simply not enough buttons on a console controller for this. That is the price you pay for ergonomics and simplicity.

On the subject of shirtless gameplay: power to you, whatever your reasons. 'Fan service' is so common for female game characters, and so rare for male ones, that is the price we pay for disproportionately sized demographics.

Jerion
21st Jun 2010, 01:22
'Fan service' is so common for female game characters, and so rare for male ones, that is the price we pay for disproportionately sized demographics.

Given the orgy-desiring reaction had to seeing Adam shirtless, I'd say that it's not unappreciated when it does go for the male characters.

TrickyVein
21st Jun 2010, 01:26
I just can't wait for the scene when AJ's glasses finally crap out on him and poke him in the eyes during a conversation. Or maybe some guy from his past comes up behind him and gives him a hearty slap on the back, causing his eye wear to jam and send sparks flying out of his tear ducts. But the shades should never come off, not ever, not really.

jtr7
21st Jun 2010, 03:03
I wonder how those shades stay on him.

Glue?

Haven't seen the trailers, yet?

KSingh77
21st Jun 2010, 03:57
Uhhh duh

Angel-A
21st Jun 2010, 20:50
Shirtless Adam?
SHIRTLESS ADAM?!
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n202/Starsiege_/Sun-Dragons/smilies/iloveitplz.png



I just can't wait for the scene when AJ's glasses finally crap out on him and poke him in the eyes during a conversation. Or maybe some guy from his past comes up behind him and gives him a hearty slap on the back, causing his eye wear to jam and send sparks flying out of his tear ducts. But the shades should never come off, not ever, not really.

Now why would you want such a horrible thing to happen?

Shadowdagger
21st Jun 2010, 21:21
Shirtless Adam?
SHIRTLESS ADAM?!
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n202/Starsiege_/Sun-Dragons/smilies/iloveitplz.png


http://dancestothebeetofherowndrum.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/moz-screenshot-8.jpg


Adam shirtless IRL, OMG!

TrickyVein
21st Jun 2010, 21:26
I don't like where his hand is going.

ZakKa89
21st Jun 2010, 21:33
Guys keep it about his glasses please lol. I am really scared where this is going...

Shadowdagger
21st Jun 2010, 21:36
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/The-Dragonlugia/180px-Zeldatyp.jpg

Corpus
21st Jun 2010, 21:50
Makes sense.

So I guess that that^ is socially excepted and arms with hidden bladed and a hand that spins people 360 degrees not. Understandable.

I doubt your everyday person is going to be able to tell the difference between a utility aug and military grade. I mean you're only seeing the exterior, before we thought those red disc things on his arms were for show, turns out their the claymore aug.

Pinky_Powers
21st Jun 2010, 22:35
lol I forgot the main reason why I wanted to post this thread: The emotions will look better without his glasses on in conversations.

I'm not sure that Adam emoting is a good thing at all. You put that voice, with those shades, and I'm a happy camper. I'd prefer all the other characters to show some quality facial animations. But Jensen should remain as Denton-like as possible... stoic and bad-ass.

TrickyVein
22nd Jun 2010, 00:38
And quite illiterate.

I'm not big into books.

On at least two separate occasions.

K^2
22nd Jun 2010, 00:46
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Pinky_Powers
22nd Jun 2010, 00:54
And quite illiterate.

I'm not big into books.

On at least two separate occasions.

That always seemed to contradict his actual personality. He was rather smart and well spoken. And whenever I got behind those shaded eyes, he read every book he came across.

So...

"He should looked like he could kick ass then go home and read a good book." This is quite Denton-like in my reality. And since it is "my reality", I always took JC's "I'm not big on books" to be him lying in order to get people to underestimate him.

That is my reality... and it's not without foundation. :cool:

TrickyVein
22nd Jun 2010, 00:57
Yes, it is strange isn't it, JC going out of his way just to make it clear that he don't read good.

Then there was that whole scene in HK where he was hitting on the Aussie bartender for like half an hour, talking about world politics and systems of government. It just adds to his alluring, dark, impenetrable nature.

MaxxQ1
22nd Jun 2010, 07:19
I always took JC's "I'm not big on books" to be him lying in order to get people to underestimate him.

I took it as him being a smartass, which, of course, is *much* better than being a dumbass. :cool:

luminar
24th Jun 2010, 04:05
Personally JC is one of my favorite characters ever. In any medium. And the personification of deus ex. So adam should be as JC-like as possible while still being different enough to not be a JC ripoff. Thus keep the shade's on at ALL times. And please, please, no shaved body. That's for *****'s.

Icarus7
24th Jun 2010, 04:28
wait why they say it augmented?and not cyborg he looks like cyborg to me...but if he was cyborg he would clinicly dead anyway maybe for style i dont know maybe he gets them off sometime

Angel-A
24th Jun 2010, 05:09
I agree, while J.C. says he's not much of a reader, he comes off as very intelligent and knowledgable (which is highly awesome). I dunno, one doesn't necessarily have be reading a lot to be intelligent.
:hmm: Now this all has me thinking was J.C. does for hobbies... The apartment he lived in looked pretty boring, wonder if he even had time to do anything with the whole UNATCO military training thing. This also reminds me of what Jaime said about J.C.'s brain cells all being modified giving him very good memory.



*pic*

Adam shirtless IRL, OMG!
Why does that not look like Adam?



Guys keep it about his glasses please lol. I am really scared where this is going...
Oh but you know you like it.



Personally JC is one of my favorite characters ever. In any medium. And the personification of deus ex. So adam should be as JC-like as possible while still being different enough to not be a JC ripoff. Thus keep the shade's on at ALL times. And please, please, no shaved body. That's for *****'s.
Not having it doesn't mean it's been shaved, maybe he just, you know, doesn't actually have it.
Besides, I find body hair gross and horrible. All curly and weird looking, and always falling off... Ewww. Disgusting just thinking about it.
D:



wait why they say it augmented?and not cyborg he looks like cyborg to me...but if he was cyborg he would clinicly dead anyway maybe for style i dont know maybe he gets them off sometime
Augmentation is defined as "modification", I hope you realize that it's an actual word and not just from DX.
They're called augs becaue they are modifications of the body, which means Adam has mechanical augs. The mechanical augs also do technically make them cyborgs.

Pinky_Powers
24th Jun 2010, 05:14
The apartment he lived in looked pretty boring, wonder if he even had time to do anything with the whole UNATCO military training thing.

That was Paul's apartment. And you're right, it was a very boring place. Though it did have a convenient back exit. :cool:

Angel-A
24th Jun 2010, 05:33
That was Paul's apartment. And you're right, it was a very boring place. Though it did have a convenient back exit. :cool:
Paul was off in Hong Kong, not doing his UNATCO missions, so J.C. would presumably have been living alone there. It also looked like it was intended for merely one person.
The apartment was only basically functional for living, too. IIRC, it didn't have certain things, such as refrigerators.
Wait, did J.C. actually live there? Paul had to tell J.C. where it was and all and everyone was refering to it as if J.C. was coming there for the first time in several months or longer... Okay now this is entirely too confusing, where the hell does J.C. live?

MaxxQ1
24th Jun 2010, 05:49
Paul was off in Hong Kong, not doing his UNATCO missions, so J.C. would presumably have been living alone there. It also looked like it was intended for merely one person.
The apartment was only basically functional for living, too. IIRC, it didn't have certain things, such as refrigerators.
Wait, did J.C. actually live there? Paul had to tell J.C. where it was and all and everyone was refering it as if J.C. was coming there for the first time in several months or longer... Okay now this is entirely too confusing, where the hell does J.C. live?

JC grew up pretty much only in boarding schools, and I assume while training at UNATCO, was living in barracks or something similar. After that, he's out on his own and Paul offered to let him stay at his place. In fact, I think one of the first emails you read either in JC's office or on Paul's comp, is Jaime asking JC if he wants to get together for a beer, but maybe hold off until JC is unpacked.

Pinky_Powers
24th Jun 2010, 05:49
Okay now this is entirely too confusing, where the hell does J.C. live?

Good question. Fresh out of the Academy? Maybe he lived nowhere. He would have had a bed in the Academy, but once you take on Liberty Island... he must have crashed in Paul's place... on the floor probably. Wasn't there a couch?

Kohtalo
24th Jun 2010, 06:09
I wonder how those shades stay on him.

Glue?

I just got the idea that maybe the frames of the glasses are attached via strong magnets or a similar system. That way they would hold in place tight, but would be quite easily removable and/or exchangable. That's how I would do it.

pringlepower
24th Jun 2010, 06:29
I just got the idea that maybe the frames of the glasses are attached via strong magnets or a similar system. That way they would hold in place tight, but would be quite easily removable and/or exchangable. That's how I would do it.

I swear magnets in the head leads to bad things happening to the brain. And won't they attract the cybernetic eyes and that weird hexagon implant in his forehead

Angel-A
24th Jun 2010, 06:37
JC grew up pretty much only in boarding schools, and I assume while training at UNATCO, was living in barracks or something similar. After that, he's out on his own and Paul offered to let him stay at his place. In fact, I think one of the first emails you read either in JC's office or on Paul's comp, is Jaime asking JC if he wants to get together for a beer, but maybe hold off until JC is unpacked.
That makes sense. I'm guessing then that J.C. was coming more-or-less fresh out of the UNATCO boarding when we start the game.


Good question. Fresh out of the Academy? Maybe he lived nowhere. He would have had a bed in the Academy, but once you take on Liberty Island... he must have crashed in Paul's place... on the floor probably. Wasn't there a couch?
From the game, it sounded like it was his first time in a long time just setting foot in there, I'm not sure his stuff would even have arrived to Hell's Kitchen. And there was a couch there but I don't think J.C. ever had to use it.


I just got the idea that maybe the frames of the glasses are attached via strong magnets or a similar system. That way they would hold in place tight, but would be quite easily removable and/or exchangable. That's how I would do it.
That makes no sense since the lenses still have to go inside his head. The shades are bolted to his skull.

Pinky_Powers
24th Jun 2010, 06:49
And there was a couch there but I don't think J.C. ever had to use it.

He sure as $h1t used it when I played the game. First night in Paul's place, I jumped up and down on that couch for hours, shooting up the walls with my slightly modified 10mm.

Kohtalo
24th Jun 2010, 07:24
That makes no sense since the lenses still have to go inside his head. The shades are bolted to his skull.

Oh they are. I didn't pay attention to them going inside his head, I just thought that the lenses just contracted somehow in the frames.

And what comes to the magnets, they don't do any harm to normal humans, why would they do harm to Adam (except sticking onto his head). Well, actually the eyes could be a problem, if they contain some mechanical construction inside them, but even in that case I'd have to say that they would probably be protected from magnetism anyway. And a small magnet doesn't really influence but a very small area.

I think that the idea of the frames attaching magnetically to the metal under your skin is still a nice idea, and would be much better than some design bolted to his head. Not only does that provide bacteria a lot of space to grow, but it's also hard to wash and clean off.

MaxxQ1
24th Jun 2010, 07:38
Oh they are. I didn't pay attention to them going inside his head, I just thought that the lenses just contracted somehow in the frames.

And what comes to the magnets, they don't do any harm to normal humans, why would they do harm to Adam (except sticking onto his head). Well, actually the eyes could be a problem, if they contain some mechanical construction inside them, but even in that case I'd have to say that they would probably be protected from magnetism anyway. And a small magnet doesn't really influence but a very small area.

I think that the idea of the frames attaching magnetically to the metal under your skin is still a nice idea, and would be much better than some design bolted to his head. Not only does that provide bacteria a lot of space to grow, but it's also hard to wash and clean off.

Nah. Them suckers is bolted on, or somehow, semi-permanently installed. Even a powerful magnet wouldn't keep them on in a fight, not to mention the shielding needed for the other electronics that are surely rattling around somewhere in his skull.

As for cleaning, I'm sure a crewdriver would be all that's needed to remove them. There are people out there now that have had extensive body modification done, that includes having metal spikes that screw into receptacles in their skull, embedded in the bone. That sort of stuff is for people with an order of magnitude more money than sense, though.

Kohtalo
24th Jun 2010, 11:03
I've tried some fingernail sized (little finger!) rare-earth magnets, that can easily hold a large metal pen in place, which is probably way bigger and heavier than those frames.

A couple of those placed on the frame, or a magnet surface on the whole frame would probably put that thing pretty tight.

I'm thinking this from an aspect of usability. Having to screw off your "sunglasses" really doesn't appeal to me all that much.

And what comes to the magnet messing stuff up inside his head, I really doubt it. Even though he probably has a fortified skull and so on, being vulnerable to magnetism in a harmful way would probably be really bad. Atleast if damage could be inflicted by a magnet that small. And I must say that magnets do not penetrate metal, such as his skull would partially be.

A vid with a couple of larger magnets. Even the smaller ones interact and stick to your arm when held on opposite sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNM1eQYSdY&feature=related

JablesKage
24th Jun 2010, 13:38
the glasses probably provide night/thermal vision... However leaving them on during conversations is cool with me as he looks totally bad ass with them on!!!