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chaoticd
19th Mar 2010, 22:04
oh, look. i started something. well, it seems that with some art shown in the forums of pixelated side scroller models of kane and lynch, i might make a game (with IO's aprovall of course). anybody interested in helping? i can program using my simple and effective game designer program, but im not very good at drawing older looking pixelated games. post some art here and i can upload it (if good) to my game. il release a trailer soon if its ok with IO. its already made, but it kinda sucks. needs music and good background. does anyone know if i can put my game company logo on it (since im scripting it, i wanted to ask). this will be epic guys, lets start working.

One of Seven
19th Mar 2010, 22:50
IO/Eidos you guy's should totally let him make this game.

UhUh
19th Mar 2010, 22:57
Yeah!
I'll totally help you with this, some questions to let things roll:
From what I understood, you have already a concept of the game done?
if so, what's in that?
if not, what we can manage to do?

Thematacally, dead men or dog days?

chaoticd
19th Mar 2010, 23:20
Yeah!
I'll totally help you with this, some questions to let things roll:
From what I understood, you have already a concept of the game done?
if so, what's in that?
if not, what we can manage to do?

Thematacally, dead men or dog days?

how about this, il finish the art today and send you the art for you to remake. im planning on remaking the first level of kane and lynch dead men into a flash game. depending on how it ends up, we may make more levels (including dog days levels if we get more info).

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 00:47
how do you insert an image? i want to upload my picture concept art. unfortunatly, i only got 3 done because im trying to copy the level design from the game into a 2d version with less detail. it sounds simple, but its hard to copy. they are really basic stuff, ok, i can open up the please enter url thing, but how do i type it in their? and what do i type?

Jacksolsmith
20th Mar 2010, 01:56
You'll need to first get on an image hosting site, I recommend Imageshack, here (http://www.imageshack.us)
Then you click the "browse" button and you'll see the folders in your computer, find your images, and upload them. Then view your images copy the link to them and post it here with the "insert picture" feature. Do hope thats what your asking for, and if so, hope it helps :)

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 03:18
section 1 concept art for game.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4485/kl1.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 03:21
section 2 concept art

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7295/kl2.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 03:22
section 3 concept art

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6361/kl3.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 03:24
section 4 concept art. didnt put alot of effort into this one.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9638/kl4.png

GrievousOdyssey
20th Mar 2010, 12:00
That's a GOTY right there yo ! ...

Falkenwut
20th Mar 2010, 12:53
Nice!! In approvez :D

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 15:16
Nice!! In approvez :D

thanks. its very undetailed, but i took the art build from the game.

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 20:27
concept art 5

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2025/kl5.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 20:30
concept art 6

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1462/kl7a.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 20:31
concept art 7

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2930/kl8h.png

chaoticd
20th Mar 2010, 20:33
concept art 8

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4034/kl9.png

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 01:24
That's a GOTY right there yo ! ...

why am i not recieving any more forum posts from the community on this? i need opinions.

RAPIST
21st Mar 2010, 01:38
I think it's gonna suck.

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 02:29
I think it's gonna suck.

it wont, trust me. the only issue i would be thinking of is how long it will take to complete. with updated art..... i would say a couple weeks. 1 or 2.

RAPIST
21st Mar 2010, 02:45
I won't trust you, I still think it's gonna suck.
And how about adding a more professional feeling to the thread?

Right now it has the crappy "hai guyz imma maik c00l gamee luk at ma pix" feel to it, hence why I think this game will fail.

How can you expect a game to be good when the guy behind it can't write proper English and draws his "Concept art" in Paint.

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 04:09
So in order to make good games one must absolutely know how to write proper english ? ...

Do i even need to explain the irony of the situation ? ...

RAPIST
21st Mar 2010, 04:19
So in order to make good games one must absolutely know how to write proper english ? ...

Do i even need to explain the irony of the situation ? ...

Nope.
I'm just saying, if he used a spell checker, it would seem a bit more professional.

Anyone can make a good game of course, regardless of his/her English skills.
But it does look better when one uses proper English.

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 04:21
Point taken ...

Bevacur
21st Mar 2010, 09:16
I won't trust you, I still think it's gonna suck.
And how about adding a more professional feeling to the thread?

Right now it has the crappy "hai guyz imma maik c00l gamee luk at ma pix" feel to it, hence why I think this game will fail.

How can you expect a game to be good when the guy behind it can't write proper English and draws his "Concept art" in Paint.

Thats concept art? Looks like a child made it.

This is concept art.
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/913/913695/dead-space-necromorph-art-20080925031754539_640w.jpg

Noticed it wasnt made in Microsoft Paint? It was hand drawn by the Dead Space artist made by Ian something. Can't remember but watch the dev video's by the team. Interesting art.

UhUh
21st Mar 2010, 09:19
it wont, trust me. the only issue i would be thinking of is how long it will take to complete. with updated art..... i would say a couple weeks. 1 or 2.

Eh, I think It will take longer than that, just doing the backgrounds, the characters and relative animations takes time.
Btw, the screens you're doing may help visualize what we have to do, but they're going to be redone completly. In the meantime, what actions are implemented? Can we take cover? there's a little enemy ai?

Nick@IO
21st Mar 2010, 12:04
Thats concept art? Looks like a child made it.

This is concept art.
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/913/913695/dead-space-necromorph-art-20080925031754539_640w.jpg

Noticed it wasnt made in Microsoft Paint? It was hand drawn by the Dead Space artist made by Ian something. Can't remember but watch the dev video's by the team. Interesting art.

Lovely image. this sort of stuff takes quite some time to do, however, and is obviously for a different caliber game so comparing the two seem a tad harsh to me.

Give the guy a break. He's being enthusiastic, why would you want to troll all over that?

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 12:38
Thats concept art? Looks like a child made it.

This is concept art.
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/913/913695/dead-space-necromorph-art-20080925031754539_640w.jpg

Noticed it wasnt made in Microsoft Paint? It was hand drawn by the Dead Space artist made by Ian something. Can't remember but watch the dev video's by the team. Interesting art.

WHAT IN LYNCH'S NAME IS THAT ?!? ...

Get this out of our Pink forum right this instant ! ...

PS : Surprisingly , the concept art for that creature looked alot better than his in-game model ... usually it's the other way around ...

Falkenwut
21st Mar 2010, 13:09
^ You'd be surprised how good stuff looks in the concept artworks - U gotta check out Street Fighter 4's concept artwork... some of them are far better then the ingame models

Speaking of artwork - I loved the concept artwork of mini ninjas.. they were briliantly made for the style! Same goes for the 2 concept arts loaded on the K&L2 site.. briliant xD

One of Seven
21st Mar 2010, 13:40
You guy's need to chill out fast, it's a free flash game, not a $60.00 console game. I for one encourage it, and I would like to see Rapist build his own flash game, and show others how to do it right.

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 13:47
I know concept arts can look very good , and truth be told i much prefer concept arts than in-game screenshots (notably last generation's Grand Theft Auto and the Hitman franchise) , but apart from a couple of exceptions , in game character model is usually better than its concept art (on the other hand , concept art for locations is always better than the in-game rendition , funny) ...

Anywya , shouldn't we start a marketing campaign for this flash game ? ...

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 13:53
Eh, I think It will take longer than that, just doing the backgrounds, the characters and relative animations takes time.
Btw, the screens you're doing may help visualize what we have to do, but they're going to be redone completly. In the meantime, what actions are implemented? Can we take cover? there's a little enemy ai?

well, im ok with you redoing it all, i created the concept art as just a basic idea of what the level design is like. there is some cover, so yes, and there is climbing. the enemy ai are cops. if this will take to long, i can have my team make it, though im not sure if they will make it look pixeled. i have them working on sound effects (maybe)

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 14:03
Lovely image. this sort of stuff takes quite some time to do, however, and is obviously for a different caliber game so comparing the two seem a tad harsh to me.

Give the guy a break. He's being enthusiastic, why would you want to troll all over that?

much appreciated

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 14:04
You guy's need to chill out fast, it's a free flash game, not a $60.00 console game. I for one encourage it, and I would like to see Rapist build his own flash game, and show others how to do it right.
:D yeah!

UhUh
21st Mar 2010, 14:38
Here's two animations for Kane, after the jailbrake; they'll need more polish, but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/LTFFQ.gif
http://imgur.com/acjnX.gif

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 14:49
Watching these animations makes me want to play Little Fighters 2 again (muffins if you know what the hell LF2 is) ...

Damn , that was a good game ... best game of all time in my opinion ...

BeardedHoplite
21st Mar 2010, 17:28
Here's two animations for Kane, after the jailbrake; they'll need more polish, but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/LTFFQ.gif
http://imgur.com/acjnX.gif

Those are awesome. Will Lynch's sprite have a flowing skullet?

Fritz von Wolfenschanz
21st Mar 2010, 18:18
IO/Eidos you guy's should totally NOT let him make this game.
Fixed.

This isnt 1988.

GrievousOdyssey
21st Mar 2010, 18:33
So yeah , Nintendo better close their doors while we're at it ...

RAPIST
21st Mar 2010, 18:35
You guy's need to chill out fast, it's a free flash game, not a $60.00 console game. I for one encourage it, and I would like to see Rapist build his own flash game, and show others how to do it right.

I'm "chill", I'm just saying my opinion.

I could make my own 2D game.
But I won't, I'd rather spend my time on something else I actually want to do.
Spending weeks or even months on a game just to prove something is not what I want to do.


Here's two animations for Kane, after the jailbrake; they'll need more polish, but you get the idea.

Not bad.
But it would be better if the muzzle flash and shell casings are actual objects in-game instead of being a part of the sprite.

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 19:02
Here's two animations for Kane, after the jailbrake; they'll need more polish, but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/LTFFQ.gif
http://imgur.com/acjnX.gif

oh man, thats awsome work!!!!! i give you major thumbs up. can you send me the costumes for the sprites seperatly though? ChaoticDoomOfBob@aol.com

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 19:17
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ChaoticD/942535

hey guys? is this ok??

One of Seven
21st Mar 2010, 19:42
Fixed.

This isnt 1988.

Haha nope, but I feel like I should have been born in the 60's anyway.

One of Seven
21st Mar 2010, 19:44
I'm "chill", I'm just saying my opinion.

I could make my own 2D game.
But I won't, I'd rather spend my time on something else I actually want to do.
Spending weeks or even months on a game just to prove something is not what I want to do.



Not bad.
But it would be better if the muzzle flash and shell casings are actual objects in-game instead of being a part of the sprite.

Of course you won't.

chaoticd
21st Mar 2010, 20:39
hey guys, i built a basic scroll test to see how it would work. it works good. check it out. need java to play.

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ChaoticD/942698

JesterTheMolester
21st Mar 2010, 20:52
Of course you won't.

Of course, you're being an arse.

How about I tell you to build your own flash game huh?
I highly doubt you would, mainly because you have as much skill as...on second thoughts, you have no skill at all.

RAPIST
21st Mar 2010, 20:53
Of course you won't.

Yes of course I won't. What's your point?
I haven't made a K&L game so I have nothing to say except "Oh this is gonna be awesome! And nothing can ever go wrong! It's gonna be the best game eevveeerrr" ?

Falkenwut
21st Mar 2010, 21:15
Please guys settle down! This is only a fan game! It's defenatly not gonna effect the original.. just some fans having a little fun... no need to hassle!

Anyways, just tested the 2 java applications - for the simple work I'm seeing so far, Great work! However I'd expect a little more work on the animations... As in like...
Kane's walking animation is only 2 sprites.. I'd recommend putting in more sprites. At least 4 coz it would look far better. Maybe also the walking speed is abit too fast..

Anyways.. Good luck with the rest dude *thumbs up*

TheMoD
21st Mar 2010, 21:19
Here's two animations for Kane, after the jailbrake; they'll need more polish, but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/LTFFQ.gif
http://imgur.com/acjnX.gif

Wow this looks great! But why is everyone so much into this 8bit style? I dunno I just feel like a flash game with regular graphics could look alot better.

Falkenwut
21st Mar 2010, 21:22
^ Didn't notice UHUH's post there! That running animation would be far better!!!

As for TheMoD's comment - I guess it's like a returning style? When you used to play those old GOOD 8bit games... when super mario was still young... I guess nostalgia kicks in quickly...

Note: you guys may wanne visit http://nintendo8.com/genre/action/ <-- lots of 8bit games for you to enjoy on the nostalgic trip xD

Bevacur
21st Mar 2010, 21:45
Lovely image. this sort of stuff takes quite some time to do, however, and is obviously for a different caliber game so comparing the two seem a tad harsh to me.

Give the guy a break. He's being enthusiastic, why would you want to troll all over that?

Saw a fan art of a game, looks amazing and was only done in 4 hours, they guy/gal used a pencil first then went over it on a tablet. Stunning stuff really..

It may seem like i am trolling but i really am not. Just don't expect everyone to enjoy and praise your project.

I had high hopes for joining the Army. I planned to enlist since i was 13 (now 24) and i passed all my tests from interviews all the way to selection. I was sooo close i could taste it! Bit of a shame really my dad, grandad, great grandmother were in the Navy or RAF,i felt like i let down my family.

I had a heart abnormality which can be serious or not and i may suffer a a serious heart attack around my 50's. What a lovely surprise eh?

What i am trying to say is for Chaos not to get his hopes high about his little game being super amazing. Thank you for reading my life story :) Off-topic by the way.

On-topic: I don't have high expectations of this game and i personally feel it will sink epically like Titanic did. My opinion though :D:whistle: Ignore me if sound like a douche, just like i ignore Grievious when he gets annoying :D

Would be a nice surprise if it turns out decent or not. I love surprises, always something to look forward to.

GrievousOdyssey
22nd Mar 2010, 00:55
*throws Bevacur off the building* ...

UhUh
22nd Mar 2010, 09:43
Wow this looks great! But why is everyone so much into this 8bit style? I dunno I just feel like a flash game with regular graphics could look alot better.

Define regular graphic :P
Anyway, I just think it's easier, and looks nice.

chaoticd
22nd Mar 2010, 10:11
Define regular graphic :P
Anyway, I just think it's easier, and looks nice.

it looks great. HEY, I NEED YOU TO PUT UP EACH COSTUME FOR THE MOVEMENT SPRITE OF KANE AND THE SHOOTING SPRITE!!!!

UhUh
22nd Mar 2010, 11:20
it looks great. HEY, I NEED YOU TO PUT UP EACH COSTUME FOR THE MOVEMENT SPRITE OF KANE AND THE SHOOTING SPRITE!!!!

Relax, the thing's not finished yet.

One of Seven
22nd Mar 2010, 15:26
Of course, you're being an arse.

How about I tell you to build your own flash game huh?
I highly doubt you would, mainly because you have as much skill as...on second thoughts, you have no skill at all.

It's the idea of someone building up themself to seem more knowledgeable on a matter then just criticising someone elses efforts. If you know so much, lend a hand. You can think it will suck or whatever, but if that's all you're doing is hanging around the thread sayin' "Hey this will suck." go find something else to do.

Bawabus
22nd Mar 2010, 15:56
I'm pretty good at pixel environments if you need help.

JesterTheMolester
22nd Mar 2010, 19:09
It's the idea of someone building up themself to seem more knowledgeable on a matter then just criticising someone elses efforts. If you know so much, lend a hand. You can think it will suck or whatever, but if that's all you're doing is hanging around the thread sayin' "Hey this will suck." go find something else to do.

I have something else to do, this is just crap I spend about 2 minutes on.

Why would I lend a hand if it'll end up sucking anyway, what a waste of time.

One of Seven
22nd Mar 2010, 22:43
I have something else to do, this is just crap I spend about 2 minutes on.

Why would I lend a hand if it'll end up sucking anyway, what a waste of time.

Haha, you just proved my point man.:lmao:

JesterTheMolester
22nd Mar 2010, 23:19
Haha, you just proved my point man.:lmao:


And I obviously care about anything you say or do?
Considering you're an idiot I'll just have to add I was being sarcastic.

GrievousOdyssey
22nd Mar 2010, 23:22
This flash game is so awesome there's already a dispute breaking up in the community for no good reason whatsoever ...

And we barely have a trailer yet !!?! ...

Falkenwut
22nd Mar 2010, 23:41
We're just happy to see some enthusiasm xD Ever since the gameplay trailer kicked in, lots of stuff's been going on in this forum - Glad to see that xD

One of Seven
23rd Mar 2010, 05:19
And I obviously care about anything you say or do?
Considering you're an idiot I'll just have to add I was being sarcastic.

Oh okay, well then I was too.

chaoticd
23rd Mar 2010, 09:56
Relax, the thing's not finished yet.

ok, i needed to know. thanks. i have school right now though, so i will try to finish the basic level design, but no promises.

Bevacur
23rd Mar 2010, 17:40
This flash game is so awesome there's already a dispute breaking up in the community for no good reason whatsoever ...

And we barely have a trailer yet !!?! ...

Lol. Forum members here really do have a fragile alliance :rolleyes:

GrievousOdyssey
23rd Mar 2010, 19:24
Lol. Forum members here really do have a fragile alliance :rolleyes:

Whoa , IO's games do make a influence on our social behaviors ! ...
Even more than Rockstar's games ever did ! ...
This is Fact of the year , yo ! ...

chaoticd
24th Mar 2010, 09:56
Whoa , IO's games do make a influence on our social behaviors ! ...
Even more than Rockstar's games ever did ! ...
This is Fact of the year , yo ! ...

thats really funny! i love it, but guys, come on now, settle down and stop arguing.

Bevacur
24th Mar 2010, 16:31
thats really funny! i love it, but guys, come on now, settle down and stop arguing.

We're arguing? :hmm:

GrievousOdyssey
24th Mar 2010, 17:35
Well NOW we are ! ...

*jumps myself out of the window* ...

*pressing a never before seen detonator* ...

*blowing off the whole building* ...

Jacksolsmith
24th Mar 2010, 21:04
*blowing off the whole building* ...
That didn't sound as good as you hoped...

Bevacur
24th Mar 2010, 21:09
That didn't sound as good as you hoped...

That was just pure amazing! Good sir i congrats you on making me laugh!

chaoticd
27th Mar 2010, 21:28
hey Uhuh. just letting you know, im waiting on you. :D

BeardedHoplite
28th Mar 2010, 16:46
So how is the game going?

chaoticd
29th Mar 2010, 10:11
So how is the game going?

well, i have the
scrolling 70%
shooting mechanic 80%
cover 20%
simple ai 50%
terrain 80%
title screen 0%

im just waiting for the finished character designs to get the rest completed.

Kent-45
29th Mar 2010, 20:10
um... not to be a Debby Downer here... but unless you have explicit permission in writing, I am pretty sure that you can't make derivative creative works from copyrighted material.

chaoticd
30th Mar 2010, 09:57
um... not to be a Debby Downer here... but unless you have explicit permission in writing, I am pretty sure that you can't make derivative creative works from copyrighted material.

actually, with the program i use, its not a problem as long as i give credit.

chaoticd
6th Apr 2010, 23:45
well IO, it seems i have to give you my sincere apologies. i have not recieved the art, and therefor i cannot finish the game. I have important projects im working on that i need to get done, so i will finish them and then maybe have my team make all the artwork so I can release it sometime in the future. I apologize and hope that maybe you and the community here will see it done in the future.

Sincerly, ChaoticD

Falkenwut
7th Apr 2010, 09:10
aww maaaan! :( I was looking foreward to this!

One of Seven
7th Apr 2010, 09:31
Same, I's is sad now....

chaoticd
8th Apr 2010, 23:27
Same, I's is sad now....

im taking both of your thoughts into concideration. I am estimating that i might have it done a month before dog days is released if i start working on it after i finish my work. we shall see.

SlashPrower
8th Apr 2010, 23:47
Hey, I can do artwork. You need artwork? Just PM me what you need and I'll work as fast as I can.

Bionicicide
9th Apr 2010, 15:53
When I read the title I thought an isometric bank heist would be cool and simple for a flash game inspired by Kane & Lynch. Just focus on 1 level and have multiple paths to get inside and escape and have different skills in your crew to encourage replay for different outcomes.

Ashrak Aiemain
25th Apr 2010, 08:16
As long as the final version is more detailed, could be cool.
And since this is a flash game, it makes plenty of sense that concept art would be done on a computer.

GrievousOdyssey
5th Jun 2010, 14:11
Such a epic fail Bob i'm bumping this for everyone to laugh at , Again ...

ohitspatty
5th Jun 2010, 16:17
Totally, cause it's so hilarious, right?

GrievousOdyssey
5th Jun 2010, 16:40
It would have been even funnier if the posts by the two spammers were still here ...

chaoticd
5th Jun 2010, 18:21
Such a epic fail Bob i'm bumping this for everyone to laugh at , Again ...

why is it an epic fail?? im waiting for my art directors to finish their last project before this gets back together.

GrievousOdyssey
5th Jun 2010, 18:32
Oh well i must have misread somewhere i thought you had put an end to this project ...

Awe man now it's not funny anymore ...

chaoticd
5th Jun 2010, 19:30
Oh well i must have misread somewhere i thought you had put an end to this project ...

Awe man now it's not funny anymore ...


im taking both of your thoughts into concideration. I am estimating that i might have it done a month before dog days is released if i start working on it after i finish my work. we shall see.

im still concidering it, but i need my art directors to finish their stuff first

SlashPrower
5th Jun 2010, 20:08
That reminds me. I'll get more Rain of Mercy stuff to you by Monday at the latest.

chaoticd
6th Jun 2010, 01:35
That reminds me. I'll get more Rain of Mercy stuff to you by Monday at the latest.

oh boy! can't wait. You Are Awsome. :D

SlashPrower
6th Jun 2010, 16:29
No problem. ^______^