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brandibuck
8th Nov 2009, 17:17
The reason is that i hate Anime and Square Enix's kind of graphic

No offence though

And i have a bad feeling that Origins Might be not so good...

Sorry... Just a premonition i had!

So what do you think

GamemasterJJ
8th Nov 2009, 17:44
Hmmm... If that happened I would probably eat my own face..

Naughty Dog:

*Crash Bandicoot, good, but nothing like TR

*Drake's Uncharted Fortune, I don't like it, it's a little boring and repetative.

Ubisoft:

*Assassin's Creed, just a purely bad game, I know loads of people like it but it's just a hundred of the same levels with different backdrops.

I don't think I'd like that.

Jason Miller
8th Nov 2009, 18:21
I think that's a really good idea!

Ants_27_
8th Nov 2009, 18:35
It is a good idea!

But if ND bought it then wouldn't it become exclusive to Sony again? I mean Naughty Dog are owned by Sony, thus Sony being the parent company of ND? That's right isn't it?

As for Ubisoft then why not, I'm not to keen on Square Enix. But just because they haven't made a game that resembles TR doesn't mean they can't.;)

Then again don't forget, Square Enix won't be touching the development process of TR that will still be down to CD as it probably will be for the foreseeable future. I'm not 100%

As for Assassins creed being repetitive all games are, yes even TR!

IvanaKC
8th Nov 2009, 19:06
Ubisoft, ubisoft!


Square Enix = anime = I hate anime, manga and everything connected to it from the bottom of my heart!
Naughty Dog = I could kiss goodbye from Tomb Raider because it would be PS3 exclusive!

And there is only one solution: Ubisoft, Ubosoft!

josh1122
8th Nov 2009, 19:15
People are so ignorant and yes I mean to offend. How many times does it have to be explained just because Square-Enix has usually been RPG related, they want to break into the WESTERN market.

Following me so far? ok good.

They are not going to make it ''anime''. I'm sorry I'm being mean I know, but geez, yall need to start thinking out of the box.


Also I prefer Square-Enix over Ubisoft, why? Assassins Creed was one of the most boring games I had ever played and Naughty Dog would just change the game into an over-actionized wannabe hollywood film

Again, sorry for being a jerk but its how I feel

nikkinickels
8th Nov 2009, 19:16
i think Naughty Dog would do a great job, the ending of Uncharted 2 cracked me up :]

_Love2Raid_
8th Nov 2009, 19:20
Square Enix won't develop the game, Crystal Dynamics will. I don't see why Lara would become an anime character just because the franchise is property of Square Enix now. :confused:

Anyway, I think Ubisoft (Montreal) would do great as a developer. They have created stunning environments for games like Prince of Persia and Assasin's Creed, with amazingly fluent gameplay.

IvanaKC
8th Nov 2009, 19:22
People are so ignorant and yes I mean to offend. How many times does it have to be explained just because Square-Enix has usually been RPG related, they want to break into the WESTERN market.

Following me so far? ok good.

They are not going to make it ''anime''. I'm sorry I'm being mean I know, but geez, yall need to start thinking out of the box.


Also I prefer Square-Enix over Ubisoft, why? Assassins Creed was one of the most boring games I had ever played and Naughty Dog would just change the game into an over-actionized wannabe hollywood film

Again, sorry for being a jerk but its how I feel



Of course they want. BUT, they don't want to change their style. Let's face it, they want THEIR style to became OUR style.

dark7angel
8th Nov 2009, 19:39
People are so ignorant and yes I mean to offend. How many times does it have to be explained just because Square-Enix has usually been RPG related, they want to break into the WESTERN market.

Following me so far? ok good.

They are not going to make it ''anime''. I'm sorry I'm being mean I know, but geez, yall need to start thinking out of the box.


Also I prefer Square-Enix over Ubisoft, why? Assassins Creed was one of the most boring games I had ever played and Naughty Dog would just change the game into an over-actionized wannabe hollywood film

Again, sorry for being a jerk but its how I feel

I agree with you!!! :thumb:

josh1122
8th Nov 2009, 20:03
Of course they want. BUT, they don't want to change their style. Let's face it, they want THEIR style to became OUR style.

Keep thinking that way, just refer back to my last post

but since you all ready did I'll just include some more


Square-Enix style isn't as popular in the states/western market as it is over seas in their home territory. Now lets think logically for a moment. You buy someone like EIDOS to get into the western market,knowing your style isnt as popular in the states, you want to turn it into your own style that is only hugely popular in your own country(japan/asia areas).

How much sense does that make from what you said

brandibuck
9th Nov 2009, 16:02
Im just thinking if square enix makes tomb raider with eidos...

It'll be an Anime nightmare And I HATE ANIME

No offence but im just sayin it

Jason Miller
9th Nov 2009, 16:45
People are so ignorant and yes I mean to offend. How many times does it have to be explained just because Square-Enix has usually been RPG related, they want to break into the WESTERN market.

Following me so far? ok good.

They are not going to make it ''anime''. I'm sorry I'm being mean I know, but geez, yall need to start thinking out of the box.


Also I prefer Square-Enix over Ubisoft, why? Assassins Creed was one of the most boring games I had ever played and Naughty Dog would just change the game into an over-actionized wannabe hollywood film

Again, sorry for being a jerk but its how I feel

You're either a troll or a major fanboy. It's your pick.:)

AdobeArtist
9th Nov 2009, 17:10
Do people realize that SquareEnix will only be publishing Tomb Raider, which is the role Eidos served? Most likely it will still be CD who'll actually develop the game so not much will change. Aside from what will result of the reboot we already knew about.

IvanaKC
10th Nov 2009, 17:29
Do people realize that SquareEnix will only be publishing Tomb Raider, which is the role Eidos served? Most likely it will still be CD who'll actually develop the game so not much will change. Aside from what will result of the reboot we already knew about.


But maybe it will happen like this: first they keep things as they are, then start to slowly change tomb raider. And the they completely change it - to anime! That's how it usually works.

a_big_house
10th Nov 2009, 18:06
i think Naughty Dog would do a great job, the ending of Uncharted 2 cracked me up :]

cuz he hates clowns?

AdobeArtist
10th Nov 2009, 18:41
But maybe it will happen like this: first they keep things as they are, then start to slowly change tomb raider. And the they completely change it - to anime! That's how it usually works.

When has it actually worked this way? Do you have a case example? :scratch:

tombraidergal
10th Nov 2009, 19:17
Ubisoft is best.

jayjay119
10th Nov 2009, 21:04
I think there is one very important point people are missing here, Naughty Dog couldn't have bought Tomb Raider because they are developer not a publisher, only publishers buy the rights to games and then give them to a development team, so it would have had to have been Sony who bought TR and even then there is no way of knowing if they'd even give it to Naught Dog.

Ubisoft are a publisher and developer so they could have bought TR and I think they are the best option to go for, hypothetically of course. The have the background in making great, immersive, long and stunning platforming games such as Prince of Persia or Assassin's Creed which both use similar mechanics and formula to TR. So i'd plump for them.

AdobeArtist
10th Nov 2009, 21:12
I think there is one very important point people are missing here, Naughty Dog couldn't have bought Tomb Raider because they are developer not a publisher, only publishers buy the rights to games and then give them to a development team, so it would have had to have been Sony who bought TR and even then there is no way of knowing if they'd even give it to Naught Dog.

Ubisoft are a publisher and developer so they could have bought TR and I think they are the best option to go for, hypothetically of course. The have the background in making great, immersive, long and stunning platforming games such as Prince of Persia or Assassin's Creed which both use similar mechanics and formula to TR. So i'd plump for them.

As long as they don't cell-shade Lara ;)

jayjay119
10th Nov 2009, 21:14
As long as they don't cell-shade Lara ;)

ohh don't start me on that, i'm still reeling about when they did it PoP, I expected it to look like Assassin's Creed and got that muck, I wasn't a happy puppy!

AdobeArtist
11th Nov 2009, 05:15
I know what you mean JayJay. When I first saw the screen shots for the new Prince of Persia, I was really thrown off. "What did they do to one of my favorite franchises???" I cried out.

But them more I saw it, and especially the more I viewed it in motion, the more I came to appreciate it. I have to say now, it's a very unique and artistic vision, and when it comes right down to it, just damn beautiful.

And while I've always been one who can appreciate variety of art styles, and got to accept the look of the new PoP, CD has perfected the look of Lara in Underworld, and by Thor they better not mess that up now!! ********:gamer::gamer:

But getting back to the issue of graphics, this really is a quality of this generation I really love, and always makes me cringe when I hear people complain that this gen has gotten stale with the visuals and that it's all about "grungy colorless realism". With games like PoP, Braid, Little Big Planet, Bioshock, Flower, Kameo, Mirror's Edge, Viva Pinata, Wet, and so many others, quite to the contrary we've never had offerings of such variety and even more importantly, this amount of creativity found in previous gens.

Truthfully the advances in technology have done far more than push the envelope of realism (like Crysis, Gears of War, Killzone 2, Alan Wake, Uncharted), it has expanded game artists canvas of creative expression. I have preached this before on other forums, that the true measure of graphics isn't polygons, pixel shaders, or normal mapping, it's art direction.

Ants_27_
11th Nov 2009, 07:28
Truthfully the advances in technology have done far more than push the envelope of realism (like Crysis, Gears of War, Killzone 2, Alan Wake, Uncharted), it has expanded game artists canvas of creative expression. I have preached this before on other forums, that the true measure of graphics isn't polygons, pixel shaders, or normal mapping, it's art direction.

Well, for art direction I think Naughty Dog are ones that never fail to deliver really; I mean all there games have vibrant colours because that is the Naughty Dog mark--in a sense.

There are more of course like you said.

jayjay119
11th Nov 2009, 13:44
Yes but could they handle the complexity of the style of play TR has? There is no use having TR being given to ND if they are just going to make it as pretty as uncharted and stick a loadof gunfire in there, it didn't work with Legend for the fans and it would just be forever critisised as an Uncharted rip off. The core mechanics of TR and Uncharted are different. TR is a platforming game with combat, Uncharted is a shooter with platfoming and I don't think ND are up to it!

pinpal
17th Nov 2009, 04:18
I think ubisoft would have been good.

IvanaKC
17th Nov 2009, 18:59
And here is one proof that Ubis really should buy Eidos:

Assassin's Creed 2 is coming. They made a perfect game. Just look at first Assassin's Creed. It's action, 3rd person game, with amazing graphics. So I say, why not?

josh1122
17th Nov 2009, 19:51
Thats not proof, its your opinion.


I don't think people can start talking about what if scenario's truly until the next TR game is released,then we can say what woul'dve so and so done better and we'll like complain like we usually do lol

Ants_27_
17th Nov 2009, 19:55
Now I've decided, what's wrong with Square Enix? After all the Final fantasy franchise has sold more units that TR? Surely they've been doing something right?

josh1122
17th Nov 2009, 20:13
Now I've decided, what's wrong with Square Enix? After all the Final fantasy franchise has sold more units that TR? Surely they've been doing something right?

There's nothing wrong with Square-Enix, only peoples blinded perception that everything is going to be made into anime because its japanese.

Which is just people being stereotypical in the first place

Ants_27_
17th Nov 2009, 20:50
There's nothing wrong with Square-Enix, only peoples blinded perception that everything is going to be made into anime because its japanese.

Which is just people being stereotypical in the first place

Granted Im not a fan of anime but one of my friends is, therefore to them it isn't crap. But (back on topic) didn't Hideo Kojima say that he was brought up in a multi-cultural home? I know it's not really relevant to "Square Enix will make TR anime!" but it does serve some point I think.

Like the fact that because I live in the UK doesn't mean I wouldn't write a book in set in Japan which a Japanese character list. I know it isn't really the same thing but I hope you get my point (which is what I think you or someone else pointed out that, just because they do anime games doesn't mean that every game they make or publish will be like that):D